New subject: Gentle Reminder: APILP Nomination of Chair/Vice Chair and Proposed Call

3 Jul 2014

      Dear all,

Hope you are doing fine. Some matters for your attention on the follow-ups
for APILP, are appended below please.

1. Nomination period for the proposed Chair and Vice Chair

Reminder that the nomination period for the proposed Chair and Vice Chair
ends this Sunday (6 July).

The revised TOR, amended only to include the terms of reference for Chair
and Vice Chair, is attached.  ICANN APAC Hub will continue to post key
development and documents on the ICANN community wiki here:
https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=48334730.

2. 2nd APILP coordination call

We're proposing a 2nd APILP coordination call on Thursday or Friday UTC 8am
(4pm SGT). Details to follow. Please fill up the doodle poll to indicate
your preferred date: http://doodle.com/7nwucubr7itv9xyu.

Thank you.

Regards, 
Kelvin

Kelvin WONG
Head, Outreach & Public Responsibility, Asia Pacific
Asia Pacific Hub, Singapore
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)

Direct: +65 6808 6672
www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org>

From:  Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org>
Date:  Monday, June 16, 2014 11:39 AM
To:  "apilp_discuss@apilp.asia" <apilp_discuss@apilp.asia>
Subject:  [Apilp_discuss]  Notes for Call on 13 June (Fri) 2pm SGT

Dear all,

Thanks to all those who participated in the APILP call on Friday. The brief
notes for the call is attached below.

Attendees

Cheryl Langdon Orr, ISOC AU
Duncan Macintosh, APNIC
Hong Xue, Beijing Normal University
Kelvin Wong, ICANN
Kuek Yu Chuang, ICANN
Low Jiarong, ICANN
Yannis Li, DotAsia

1) Nomination of Chair and Vice Chair
* Process of nomination and election of Chair and Vice Chair for the APILP
to follow the following election process:
> * Having a nomination period (21 days), during which members are allowed to
> put forward the names.
> * Self nomination allowed. If nominating a 2nd person, to allow 7-10 days
> within the nomination period, for nominated party to accept the nomination
* APILP TOR should consequently include the terms of reference for the Chair
and Vice Chair too, such as:
> * Period of term: (Proposed) 2 years
> * Number of terms allowed: (Proposed) 2
* Cheryl agreed to help guide the nomination/election process of the
Chair/Vice Chair for APILP
* There was a suggestion to have an interim Chair/Vice Chair to help lead
discussions, before the Chair/Vice Chair are elected/take office.  There was
also a suggestion that ICANN as secretariat could help in the interim.
2) On APILP proposals
* Discussion on the specifics of the proposal will continue when the
Chair/Vice Chair is selected.  APrIGF secretariat (Yannis) updated the
meeting that the APrIGF pre-event proposal (1 day workshop as proposed Ang
Peng Hwa) was accepted by APrIGF MSG. She also reminded the meeting that Xue
Hong has previously helped to include APILP as an agenda in APrIGF in Delhi,
the proposals and suggestions on the details for APILP could be discussed.
90 mins is scheduled for this.
* For the proposal, there was also a suggestion to proactively look into the
mode of learning, including having hybrid modes of remote participation and
e-learning etc, to complement more traditional face-to-face sessions.
3) Follow up for APILP-WG
* To have another ad-hoc call 3 weeks later (around 2nd week of July) to
check back on progress and provide update.  This is also aligned to the
timeline for election. ICANN will in the interim, continue to move the
project along as secretariat.
* Nomination period: Start 16 June (Mon), end 6 July (Sun).
* Proposed 2nd APILP call on 8 July (Tuesday) UTC 4am (12pm SGT) - call to
be confirmed. (ICANN APAC Hub will continue to post key development and
documents on the ICANN community wiki here:
https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=48334730. We will
also circulate a revised TOR to include the terms of reference for Chair and
Vice Chair.)

Thank you and Regards,
Kelvin

Kelvin WONG
Head, Outreach & Public Responsibility, Asia Pacific
Asia Pacific Hub, Singapore
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)

Direct: +65 6808 6672
www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org>

From: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org>
Date: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 2:37 PM
To: "apilp_discuss@apilp.asia" <apilp_discuss@apilp.asia>
Subject: [Apilp_discuss] Proposed Next Steps for APILP and Call on 13 June
(Fri) 2pm SGT

Dear everyone,

We've just received another proposal on the APILP, from Leo Hwa Chiang. I've
named this as Proposal 2, and I'm re-attaching the rest of the document for
your reference.  

Just to share, Leo is the Director of Asia Business Development in IEEE
APAC, based in Singapore. He also oversees IEEE educational activities. He
joined this WG sometime in April.

Circulating on your behalf, thanks Leo.

Regards, 
Kelvin

Kelvin WONG
Head, Outreach & Public Responsibility, Asia Pacific
Asia Pacific Hub, Singapore
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)

Direct: +65 6808 6672
www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org>

From: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org>
Date: Monday, June 9, 2014 4:39 PM
To: "apilp_discuss@apilp.asia" <apilp_discuss@apilp.asia>
Subject: [Apilp_discuss] Proposed Next Steps for APILP and Call on 13 June
(Fri) 2pm SGT

Dear all,

Thanks to all who have provided your comments to the TOR! The comment period
for the TOR for the APILP closed last Fri, 6 June.

The latest draft TOR document is attached. For your ease of reference, I'll
also be posting the key development and documents for this APILP initiative
on the ICANN community wiki here:
https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=48334730

Proposed Next Steps

On the way forward for APILP, we've received some suggestions. As
secretariat for this group, may we propose the following:

> 1) Nomination of Chair and Vice Chair: At the APILP Open Working Group
> discussion during ICANN49 Singapore in March 2014, we asked for volunteers to
> be part of this Working Group (WG).  You are included in this group as you
> have indicated your interest to be part of the WG - thanks for this.  We are
> inviting nomination of Chair and Vice Chair to this APILP-WG.
> 
> 2) On APILP discussion during APrIGF Delhi (Aug): There were some suggestions
> for APrIGF in Delhi, Aug, in relation to APILP, including a presentation of
> the APILP workshop proposal. We hope to seek comments to the two proposals (a)
> and (b) below. 
> 
>> (a) For the APILP-WG to have a face to face meeting to discuss the TOR during
>> Delhi APrIGF (Aug);
>> 
>> (b) To do a first run of the APILP during Delhi APrIGF (Aug), initial draft
>> proposal as attached (Proposal 1).
> 
> For (a), as the APrIGF is still another 2 months away, assuming we do go ahead
> with TOR discussion then, there is still some time to further flesh out some
> of the proposed approach and proposals that we've received in the meantime.
> This can then be discussed together with the TOR if necessary.  For (b), we
> welcome feedback to Proposal 1 (such as curriculum, fees, participant numbers
> etc), as well as other proposals if there are.
> 
> 3) Others: Other suggestions, if any, are welcome too.

APILP Conference Call

In view of the above, we'd like to also propose to do a call to go through
1) (Nomination), and if possible and time permits, discuss the proposals in
2) on 13 June (Fri) 2pm-3pm Singapore time (UTC 0600-0700).  We will share
the call details and the names of the WG members in a subsequent email.

Thank you.

Regards, 
Kelvin

Kelvin WONG
Head, Outreach & Public Responsibility, Asia Pacific
Asia Pacific Hub, Singapore
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)

Direct: +65 6808 6672
www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org>

From: "Ang Peng Hwa (Prof)" <TPHANG@ntu.edu.sg>
Date: Friday, May 30, 2014 7:23 PM
To: Yannis Li <yannis@registry.asia>
Cc: "apilp_discuss@apilp.asia" <apilp_discuss@apilp.asia>
Subject: Re: [Apilp_discuss] Fwd: For discussion: Draft Terms of Reference
for Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program (APILP)

Agreed. It’ll be a good opportunity to work out the ToR.

Regards,
Peng Hwa

From: Yannis Li [mailto:yannis@registry.asia]
Sent: Friday, 30 May, 2014 5:57 PM
To: Ang Peng Hwa (Prof)
Cc: Hong Xue; Srinivas Chendi; apilp_discuss@apilp.asia
Subject: Re: [Apilp_discuss] Fwd: For discussion: Draft Terms of Reference
for Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program (APILP)

Dear All, 

FYI, Hong has kindly helped to submit a workshop proposal on this APILP
initiative which opens for discussion during APrIGF Delhi from 3-6 Aug which
is around 2-month time away.

While I agree with Penghwa that acting quick is essential, APrIGF shall give
us another good F2F opportunity to further discuss about the future of this
initiative as well.

Would encourage any of you here to attend and join the session. More
information could be found at http://2014.rigf.asia. The agenda is under
development though.

Thanks.

Best Regards,

Yannis Li

DotAsia Organisation Ltd.

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On 29 May 2014, at 4:56 PM, Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) wrote:

Hi Sunny and Hong.

I had been travelling for about a couple of weeks and was looking for the
draft ToR that Peter had amended. Curiously enough I did not see it until
this ToR v3.

The ToR includes what I―and I suppose some others too―consider ambitious.
I’m concerned that if we take as long as we did in crafting the ToR as our
APrIGF CFP template, then many moons might pass. And the APrIGF had the
benefit of a couple of runs.

May I suggest this: we do the run. And we meet f2f to aim to conclude the
ToR.

I am proposing a 1-day session because I am thinking of the Indian
bureaucrats who may form a sizeable group. It’s really a primer. I’m also
concerned that a longer duration would not be manageable. Also, I’m
concerned that if it’s too extended, people would have a hard time extending
their stay.

Appended below is the draft curriculum. Essentially―background+context, the
technical aspects (to explain the root server), the stakeholders and their
roles, and then the current status.

I have highlighted the speaker for PM1 as I was in Sri Lanka and met Rohan
Samarjiva and he had expressed interest to attend if we invite him. Rohan is
a friend, ex-professor at Ohio State in telecom, a former DG of Sri Lanka
Telecom but now heading a think-tank in ICT policy. He is therefore
comfortable in both the ITU and Internet space and therefore not hostile to
the Internet.

Speakers for the other slots are open.

Let me know your thoughts.

TimeTopicContentSpeakers
(Tentative)Remarks
Day 1
AM1Welcome & IntroductionIntroduction to the programme
The Development of the InternetSets the context, development and background
of key playersHistorical Context
AM2Infrastructure: How the Internet worksDNS, IP addresses, peering,
IPv4/6APNIC(?)Technical background
PM1Stakeholders, role and policiesThe connection between Internet and
telecomRohan SamarajivaTentative
PM2Current DevelopmentWGIG and the Background to the IGF
NetMundialPanelIGF and current status

Regards,

Peng Hwa

From: apilp_discuss-bounces@apilp.asia
[mailto:apilp_discuss-bounces@apilp.asia] On Behalf Of Hong Xue
Sent: Thursday, 29 May, 2014 1:21 PM
To: Srinivas Chendi
Cc: apilp_discuss@apilp.asia
Subject: Re: [Apilp_discuss] Fwd: For discussion: Draft Terms of Reference
for Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program (APILP)

Thanks, Sunny, the modifications look very good. Regarding 5.1, yes we would
need to compose the WG sooner rather than later.

Hong

Professor Dr. Hong Xue
Director of Beijing Normal University Institute for Internet Policy & Law
(IIPL) 

Co-Director of UNCITRAL-BNU Joint Certificate Program on International
E-Commerce Law
http://www.iipl.org.cn/
19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street
Beijing 100875 China

On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Srinivas Chendi <sunny@apnic.net> wrote:

Dear Kelvin,

Thanks for circulating the ToR v3 for comments and thanks to Peter for
providing his suggested changes.

APNIC suggested changes are in the attached version 4 document.

With regards to APILP or APIGLP, we prefer with APILP as it is broad and
inclusive which can cover a number of topics.

5.1.a
This is a very important and is a very big job but who will do it?

Regards
Sunny

On 6/05/2014 7:02 PM, Kelvin Wong wrote:
> 
> Dear Peter, well received. Thanks for your comments and edits!
> Circulating to APILP (for now) mailing list.
> 
> Regards,
> Kelvin
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>> *From:* Peter Dengate Thrush <barrister@chambers.gen.nz
>> <mailto:barrister@chambers.gen.nz>>
>> *Date:* 6 May, 2014 12:04:40 am GMT+9
>> *To:* Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org <mailto:kelvin.wong@icann.org>>
>> *Subject:* *Re: [Apilp_discuss] For discussion: Draft Terms of
>> Reference for Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program (APILP)*
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kelvin
>> I seem to be having trouble posting to the list - please forward this
>> for me - thanks
>> 
>> regards
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks Kelvin,
>> This is an excellent start - it seems to have been a productive
>> meeting at ICANN Singapore, and I am sorry I missed it.
>> 
>> I have made some suggested changes in Version 3 of the document which
>> I attach.
>> In proposing these, I note first how much easier it is to critique
>> other's work than it it is to create it - thanks again for the first
>> draft, which sets the scene very effectively.
>> 
>> Other than some changes such as numbering and some grammar edits, I
>> think there could be some productive discussion about a couple of items:
>> 
>> 1. The name - as its about Internet Governance, it seems sensible to
>> me to include that in the name of the document and the name of the
>> exercise.
>> Its not just about "Internet Leadership" which is being done in many
>> areas, of registry management,  law, security etc, but specifically
>> about IG. I think its healthier to acknowledge and display that focus.
>> 
>> 2. I am not accustomed to describing the Asia Pacific area as "APAC",
>> so started to re-name it AP - but didn't continue....happy to defer if
>> there is a widespread acceptance of that abbreviation.
>> 
>> 3. I am somewhat concerned at the current focus on the domain name
>> industry: I have highlit the term a few times. I think both that there
>> is more to the IG topic than that, and also that the domain name
>> industry can be expected to be busy taking care of itself through such
>> organisations as APTLD, ICANN and the newly formed Domain Name
>> Association ( "DNA"). Although I think we need to be careful about
>> opening the door to an unlimited range of topics, I have added IP
>> address allocation mechanisms, multistakeholderism, online human
>> rights, network security and network neutrality as possible topics. In
>> any event, these should be signals, rather than instructions to those
>> who will eventually draft the actual curriculum.
>> 
>> 4. I have separated out and made clearer the tasks of preparing the
>> curriculum from preparing business and financial plans to support it.
>> 
>> 
>> I hope these suggestion might be thought useful in furthering the
>> discussion - thanks.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> 
>> Peter
> 
> 
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Gentle Reminder: APILP Nomination of Chair/Vice Chair and Proposed Call

Kelvin Wong

Kelvin Wong

Hong Xue

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