Hi all,

I’ve reached out to Chat separately regarding the APILP planning team, and
am awaiting a response. I’ve highlighted the need for civil society
perspective.

Meanwhile (and if there is no more input on the program from this group
between now and tomorrow), I suppose we can run through the program during
tomorrow’s MSG meeting, and seek views.

I’m not sure if the local hosts are on this list already, as we still
needed to have some clarity on the availability of coffee break/lunch.
Otherwise these can be raised tomorrow too.

=====Proposed program for Day 0==========

09:00 - 10:30   General:
                1. Introduction to Internet Governance & Multistakeholder Model
                2. Introduction to APrIGF/MSG (and outcome document?)

10:30 - 11:00   Coffee Break

11:00 - 12:00   Technical: IANA transition
12:00 - 12.30   Technical:  Basics of Critical Internet Resources (DNS/IP
addresses etc)

12:30 - 14:00   Lunch

14:00 - 14:30   Technical:  Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network Security
14.30 - 15.30   Academic: Internet User's Rights (privacy and access to
knowledge)

15:30 - 16:00   Coffee Break

16:00 - 17:30   Civil Society:
                1. Exploring publicness' in the Right to Be Forgotten Rulings
                2. Other topics

17:30 - 18:30   General: Emerging issues


=====Proposed program for Day 0==========

Regards,
Kelvin





On 4/20/16, 2:32 PM, "Apilp_planning on behalf of Kelvin Wong"
<apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia on behalf of kelvin.wong@icann.org>
wrote:

>Thanks Yannis for this.
>
>On Paul’s note below, I think it will be great to have Chat in this too,
>to add more perspective.
>
>Just to point out a small typo - I think you meant "14:00 - 14:30 -
>Technical:  Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network Security”. Revised
>programme looks good to me, and we can use this as the base for
>discussion.
>
>Peng Hwa, should we be including any others from APILP into this planning
>group?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Regards,
>Kelvin
>
>
>
>
>
>On 4/20/16, 1:32 PM, "Apilp_planning on behalf of Yannis Li"
><apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia on behalf of yannis@registry.asia>
>wrote:
>
>>Dear All,
>>
>>Just want to let you know that planning@apilp.asia has been activated.
>>
>>Let me know if I should go ahead to add Chat or Paul you would talk to
>>her first.
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>Best Regards,
>>
>>Yannis Li
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>>
>>
>>
>>On 19 Apr 2016, at 3:45 PM, Paul Wilson <pwilson@apnic.net> wrote:
>>
>>Thanks kelvin and all.
>>
>>Glad to see this and to know that the issue of Civil Society presence is
>>agreed.
>>
>>This programme is a great start but before setting anything in stone, I
>>would suggest to bring the right people into this discussion.  After all
>>it is not just an issue of civil society “content” but also
>>“participation” in this process.
>>
>>I suggest Chat Garcia, who is already active on the MSG, would be the
>>right person to invite into this group in the short term.  The future
>>particuipation in the mailing list can continue to emerge as well of
>>course.
>>
>>Are you all OK to invite Chat at this stage?
>>
>>
>>One other comment:
>>
>>This agenda is very packed and I feel that the allocation of 2 90-minutes
>>slots to the technical community is not quite fair.  Perhaps if we spent
>>60 minutes on IANA transiti9on and then 60 on my presentation, then this
>>would free up time for others.
>>
>>If Hong is happy to be identified as “Academic” then perhaps she should
>>join in with the technical community, with her session scheduled before
>>the afternoon coffee break.  Then, we could leave the final session
>>(16.00-17.30) for the Civil Society issues.
>>
>>It would look something like this:
>>
>>09:00 - 10:30 General:
>>   1. Introduction to Internet Governance & Multistakeholder Model
>>   2. Introduction to APrIGF/MSG (and outcome document?)
>>
>>10:30 - 11:00 Coffee Break
>>
>>11:00 - 12:00 Technical: IANA transition
>>12:00 - 12.30 Technical:  Basics of Critical Internet Resources (DNS/IP
>>addresses etc)
>>
>>12:30 - 14:00 Lunch
>>
>>14:00 - 15:30 Technical:  Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network
>>Security
>>14.30 - 15.30 Academic: Internet User's Rights (privacy and access to
>>knowledge)
>>
>>15:30 - 16:00 Coffee Break
>>
>>16:00 - 17:30 Civil Society:
>>   1. Exploring publicness' in the Right to Be Forgotten Rulings
>>   2. Other topics
>>17:30 - 18:30 General: Emerging issues
>>
>>
>>Any thoughts?
>>
>>Paul.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On 18 Apr 2016, at 17:50, Kelvin Wong wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Paul,
>>>
>>> Thanks for starting this conversation. APILP chair is currently Peng
>>>Hwa,
>>> and we¹d be happy to continue to support.
>>>
>>> Peng Hwa and I discussed about the program following the MSG meeting
>>>last
>>> week and we¹ve come up with the attached program - glad that we¹ve
>>>reached a
>>> similar conclusion that we can beef up the civil society part! The ones
>>>in
>>> red are proposed and new, and I hope answers the question on the ³civil
>>> society² deficiency well.  For this, we took the liberty of looking at
>>>some
>>> of the workshops that are higher ranking but fell out of the top 30,
>>>and
>>> aligns well with what we think is useful as a segment in APILP. The
>>>program
>>> is open to discussion of course, and we can float this to
>>> planning@apilp.asia (and thereafter to MSG?).
>>>
>>> Looking at the program, since this has been decided to be a full day
>>>program
>>> on Day 0, I¹m wondering if coffee (and/or lunch) will also be provided
>>>for
>>> the participants/lecturers, as per the main conference days?
>>>
>>> Happy to hear views. Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Kelvin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/18/16, 3:04 PM, "Paul Wilson" <pwilson@apnic.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Now that we have the decision to hold APILP on Day 0, we need to
>>>>finalise that
>>>> schedule and announce it so that we can improve participation.  We
>>>>also need
>>>> to finalise the programme.
>>>>
>>>> I¹d like to suggest an APILP organisers¹ mailing list so that we have
>>>>easier
>>>> and more regular contact;  it should also allow others to join.
>>>>Yannis, can
>>>> Dotasia set that up?  something like planning@apilp.asia
>>>>
>>>> On the quesiton of programme, I feel we have a deficiency with a lack
>>>>of
>>>> ³civil society² representation and content; so I want to propose to
>>>>involve
>>>> additional organisers who can contribute a unit about social issues
>>>>such as
>>>> freedom of expression, access, gender etc.  I think this is really
>>>>very
>>>> necessary, and I hope we can agree to accomodate that on Day 0 as
>>>>well.
>>>>
>>>> For clarity, can we confirm someone to formally chair this group?
>>>>Peng Hwa,
>>>> is that you?  Or Kelvin?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks all,
>>>>
>>>> Paul.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>_______________________________________________________________________
>>>>_
>>>> Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC
>>>>dg@apnic.net
>>>> http://www.apnic.net
>>>>@apnicdg
>>>>
>>
>>________________________________________________________________________
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>>http://www.apnic.net                                            @apnicdg
>>
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