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Hi Hong, During the call, we discussed the fee and narrowed this down to a range of $35-50, as recorded. There was view that even this could be a bit high, especially in the local context, and we're largely targeting the locals. The $30 is a rounded down figure of the lower end of the range. Thanks much for pointing out - we used USD in our discussion – we will need to make this clearer before going out :) Regards, Kelvin Kelvin WONG Head, Outreach & Public Responsibility, Asia Pacific Asia Pacific Hub, Singapore Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +65 6808 6672 www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org> From: Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com> Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 12:32 PM To: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> Cc: "apilp_discuss@apilp.asia" <apilp_discuss@apilp.asia> Subject: Re: [Apilp_discuss] Outreach mailer for APILP Pilot Program Thanks, Kelvin. I guess the fee schedule was decided at the last call, though I did not find it in the minutes. Anyway, does "$" mean US dollars or Singapore dollars? Hong Professor Dr. Hong Xue Director of Beijing Normal University Institute for Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Co-Director of UNCITRAL-BNU Joint Certificate Program on International E-Commerce Law http://www.iipl.org.cn/ 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> wrote: > Dear all, > > We've come up with the outreach mailer for the APILP Pilot Program as > attached. The payment details can be found in the link APILP Registration > <https://www.eventbrite.com/e/asia-pacific-internet-leadership-programme-ticke > ts-12261908699> . Currently, we've protected this page via password (password: > 12345678), to allow for tweaks if necessary, but we'll remove the password and > have it ready for dissemination by tomorrow morning. Thanks Peng Hwa for > setting up the account and putting the measures in place, and Yannis for > approaching some of the speakers. > > Greatly appreciate if you could help to share this with your contacts starting > from tomorrow, 16 July, when the page will go live. > > Thanks a lot, > Kelvin > > == Write-up on APILP Pilot Program (3 Aug) == > > The Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program, APILP, will have its inaugural > run on 3 Aug (Sun), in conjunction with the Asia Pacific Regional Internet > Governance Forum (APrIGF) to be held in Delhi, India. > > Join us for a one-day immersion session, as regional internet leaders speak on > topics ranging from the background to Internet Governance and NetMundial, to > internet infrastructure and Domain Name System (DNS). Keep up to date on World > Summit on the Information Society (WSIS) and Internet Governance Forum (IGF). > Understand the significance of transition of the stewardship of the functions > of IANA (Internet Assigned Names and Numbers) and the development on generic > top-level domain names. All in one day! > > Sign up for this session by clicking on APILP Registration > <https://www.eventbrite.com/e/asia-pacific-internet-leadership-programme-ticke > ts-12261908699> (first come, first served basis). Participation fee for full > day session: US$30 per pax (includes lunch, 2 tea breaks, and a welcome > package). > > Organized by APILP Working Group. For enquiries, please contact > apachub@icann.org. > > == > > Kelvin WONG > Head, Outreach & Public Responsibility, Asia Pacific > Asia Pacific Hub, Singapore > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) > > Direct: +65 6808 6672 <tel:%2B65%206808%206672> > www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org> > > From: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> > Date: Friday, July 11, 2014 11:31 AM > To: "apilp_discuss@apilp.asia" <apilp_discuss@apilp.asia> > Subject: [Apilp_discuss] Notes for 2nd APILP Call and APILP Chair Confirmation > [10 July, UTC 8am, 4pm SGT] > > Dear all, > > Thanks for those who attended the very fruitful discussion yesterday. > > The key discussion points and action items raised in the call are recorded in > the document attached for your reference. The revised proposed APILP pilot > program is also attached. Notably, we have confirmed our APILP Working Group > Chair, and we're moving ahead with the pilot program. We'll need all the help > we can get for this, especially on the outreach for the program. > > Next APILP Working Group Coordination Call (17 July) > > The next coordination call is proposed to be held on 17 July (Thursday) UTC > 7am (3pm SGT). Please do join in the call if you are able to make it. Thank > you. > > [As usual, key development and documents on APILP working group can be found > on the ICANN community wiki here: > https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=48334730.] > > Regards, > Kelvin > > Kelvin WONG > Head, Outreach & Public Responsibility, Asia Pacific > Asia Pacific Hub, Singapore > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) > > Direct: +65 6808 6672 <tel:%2B65%206808%206672> > www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org> > > From: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> > Date: Thursday, July 10, 2014 3:53 PM > To: Duncan Macintosh <duncan@apnic.net>, "Rajnesh D. Singh (singh@isoc.org)" > <singh@isoc.org>, "apilp_discuss@apilp.asia" <apilp_discuss@apilp.asia> > Cc: Sanjaya Sanjaya <sanjaya@apnic.net> > Subject: Re: [Apilp_discuss] 2nd APILP Call and APILP Chair Confirmation [10 > July, UTC 8am, 4pm SGT] > > Thanks Duncan and team for this, and noted on your comments regarding the > proposal. I will share the discussion points of the call with you. > > Looking forward to speaking with the rest in a while. > > Regards, > Kelvin > > Kelvin WONG > Head, Outreach & Public Responsibility, Asia Pacific > Asia Pacific Hub, Singapore > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) > > Direct: +65 6808 6672 <tel:%2B65%206808%206672> > www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org> > > From: Duncan Macintosh <duncan@apnic.net> > Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2014 12:22 PM > To: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org>, "Rajnesh D. Singh (singh@isoc.org)" > <singh@isoc.org>, "apilp_discuss@apilp.asia" <apilp_discuss@apilp.asia> > Cc: Srinivas Chendi <sunny@apnic.net>, Paul Wilson <pwilson@apnic.net>, Pablo > Hinojosa <pablo@apnic.net>, Sanjaya Sanjaya <sanjaya@apnic.net> > Subject: FW: [Apilp_discuss] 2nd APILP Call and APILP Chair Confirmation [10 > July, UTC 8am, 4pm SGT] > > Kelvin, > Thanks for your continuing work on this and warmest congratulations to Prof > Ang Peng Hwa on his appointment as APILP chair. Unfortunately, Sunny and I > will not be able to join the coordination call on Thursday, 10 July. However, > we wanted to note the proposed one day syllabus that’s attached and the > morning presentation by APNIC entitled “Infrastructure: How the Internet works > (DNS, IP addresses, peering, IPv4/6). > > At this stage we have not finalized who will handle this presentation in Delhi > on behalf of APNIC, so please leave it blank for now and we will provide > confirmed details as soon as we can on how best to handle it. > > All the best for the upcoming coordination call. > Regards > Duncan > > > From:apilp_discuss-bounces@apilp.asia > [mailto:apilp_discuss-bounces@apilp.asia] On Behalf Of Kelvin Wong > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 5:43 PM > To: apilp_discuss@apilp.asia; Peter Dengate Thrush; YJ Park; Rajnesh D. Singh > Cc: Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) > Subject: [Apilp_discuss] 2nd APILP Call and APILP Chair Confirmation [10 July, > UTC 8am, 4pm SGT] > > > Dear all, > > > > Thanks much for the show of support and thanks Prof Ang Peng Hwa for agreeing > to lead the APILP as Chair! Thanks also to those who responded to the Doodle > poll. > > > > In view of this, the details for our next call are as follows: > > > > 2nd APILP Coordination Call > > > > 1. Date/Time: > * Thursday 10 July, UTC 8am (4pm SGT) > * Conference ID: 89897 > * Adigo phone information: US Access Number: 213 233 3193 > <tel:213%20233%203193> / US Toll Free Access Number: 800 550 6865 > <tel:800%20550%206865> / International Adigo phone numbers: > http://adigo.com/icann/ > 2. Agenda: > * Confirmation of APILP Chair/Vice Chair > * Discussion on proposed pilot program (as attached and slightly revised from > an earlier version), including suitable speakers, etc [Led by Chair] > * Any other matters [Led by Chair] > Should you be unable to participate in the call but wish to provide your > comments/help to the program (or any part of the agenda), please feel free to > send me an email or reply directly to this mailing list > (apilp_discuss@apilp.asia). > > > > Looking forward to the meeting. Thank you. > > > > Regards, > > Kelvin > > > > Kelvin WONG > > Head, Outreach & Public Responsibility, Asia Pacific > > Asia Pacific Hub, Singapore > > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) > > > > Direct: +65 6808 6672 <tel:%2B65%206808%206672> > > www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org> > > > > From: Peter Dengate Thrush <barrister@chambers.gen.nz> > Date: Monday, July 7, 2014 2:56 PM > To: YJ Park <yjpark@sunykorea.ac.kr> > Cc: "apilp_discuss@apilp.asia" <apilp_discuss@apilp.asia> > Subject: Re: [Apilp_discuss] Gentle Reminder: APILP Nomination of Chair/Vice > Chair and Proposed Call > > > > +1 > > regards > > > > Peter > > > > On 7/07/2014, at 5:53 pm, YJ Park <yjpark@sunykorea.ac.kr> wrote: > > > Dear all, > > > > I support! > > > > Best, > > YJ > > > > 2014-07-04 15:35 GMT+09:00 Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com>: > > Dear Kelvin, > > > > Thanks for the reminder and the doodling. > > > > I've some short conversations with Prof. Ang Peng Hwa about the nominations. > He's kindly agreed to take the lead. I, hereby, nominate Prof. Ang, Director > of Singapore Internet Research Center and Professor of Singapore Nanyang > Technology University, as the Chair of Working Group. Peng Hwa might > confirmation his acceptance himself. > > > > Best, > > > > Hong > > > > > > > Professor Dr. Hong Xue > Director of Beijing Normal University Institute for Internet Policy & Law > (IIPL) > > Co-Director of UNCITRAL-BNU Joint Certificate Program on International > E-Commerce Law > http://www.iipl.org.cn/ > 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street > Beijing 100875 China > > > On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > Hope you are doing fine. Some matters for your attention on the follow-ups for > APILP, are appended below please. > > > > 1. Nomination period for the proposed Chair and Vice Chair > > > > Reminder that the nomination period for the proposed Chair and Vice Chair ends > this Sunday (6 July). > > > > The revised TOR, amended only to include the terms of reference for Chair and > Vice Chair, is attached. ICANN APAC Hub will continue to post key development > and documents on the ICANN community wiki here: > https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=48334730. > > > > 2. 2nd APILP coordination call > > > > We're proposing a 2nd APILP coordination call on Thursday or Friday UTC 8am > (4pm SGT). Details to follow. Please fill up the doodle poll to indicate your > preferred date: http://doodle.com/7nwucubr7itv9xyu > <http://doodle.com/7nwucubr7itv9xyu> . > > > > Thank you. > > > > Regards, > > Kelvin > > > > Kelvin WONG > > Head, Outreach & Public Responsibility, Asia Pacific > > Asia Pacific Hub, Singapore > > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) > > > > Direct: +65 6808 6672 <tel:%2B65%206808%206672> > > www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org/> > > > > From: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> > Date: Monday, June 16, 2014 11:39 AM > To: "apilp_discuss@apilp.asia" <apilp_discuss@apilp.asia> > Subject: [Apilp_discuss] Notes for Call on 13 June (Fri) 2pm SGT > > > > Dear all, > > > > Thanks to all those who participated in the APILP call on Friday. The brief > notes for the call is attached below. > > > > Attendees > > > > Cheryl Langdon Orr, ISOC AU > > Duncan Macintosh, APNIC > > Hong Xue, Beijing Normal University > > Kelvin Wong, ICANN > > Kuek Yu Chuang, ICANN > > Low Jiarong, ICANN > > Yannis Li, DotAsia > > > > 1) Nomination of Chair and Vice Chair > * Process of nomination and election of Chair and Vice Chair for the APILP to > follow the following election process: >> * Having a nomination period (21 days), during which members are allowed to >> put forward the names. >> * Self nomination allowed. If nominating a 2nd person, to allow 7-10 days >> within the nomination period, for nominated party to accept the nomination > * APILP TOR should consequently include the terms of reference for the Chair > and Vice Chair too, such as: >> * Period of term: (Proposed) 2 years >> * Number of terms allowed: (Proposed) 2 > * Cheryl agreed to help guide the nomination/election process of the > Chair/Vice Chair for APILP > * There was a suggestion to have an interim Chair/Vice Chair to help lead > discussions, before the Chair/Vice Chair are elected/take office. There was > also a suggestion that ICANN as secretariat could help in the interim. > 2) On APILP proposals > * Discussion on the specifics of the proposal will continue when the > Chair/Vice Chair is selected. APrIGF secretariat (Yannis) updated the meeting > that the APrIGF pre-event proposal (1 day workshop as proposed Ang Peng Hwa) > was accepted by APrIGF MSG. She also reminded the meeting that Xue Hong has > previously helped to include APILP as an agenda in APrIGF in Delhi, the > proposals and suggestions on the details for APILP could be discussed. 90 mins > is scheduled for this. > * For the proposal, there was also a suggestion to proactively look into the > mode of learning, including having hybrid modes of remote participation and > e-learning etc, to complement more traditional face-to-face sessions. > 3) Follow up for APILP-WG > * To have another ad-hoc call 3 weeks later (around 2nd week of July) to check > back on progress and provide update. This is also aligned to the timeline for > election. ICANN will in the interim, continue to move the project along as > secretariat. > * Nomination period: Start 16 June (Mon), end 6 July (Sun). > * Proposed 2nd APILP call on 8 July (Tuesday) UTC 4am (12pm SGT) - call to be > confirmed. (ICANN APAC Hub will continue to post key development and documents > on the ICANN community wiki here: > https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=48334730. We will > also circulate a revised TOR to include the terms of reference for Chair and > Vice Chair.) > > > Thank you and Regards, > > Kelvin > > > > Kelvin WONG > > Head, Outreach & Public Responsibility, Asia Pacific > > Asia Pacific Hub, Singapore > > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) > > > > Direct: +65 6808 6672 <tel:%2B65%206808%206672> > > www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org/> > > > > From: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> > Date: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 2:37 PM > To: "apilp_discuss@apilp.asia" <apilp_discuss@apilp.asia> > Subject: [Apilp_discuss] Proposed Next Steps for APILP and Call on 13 June > (Fri) 2pm SGT > > > > Dear everyone, > > > > We've just received another proposal on the APILP, from Leo Hwa Chiang. I've > named this as Proposal 2, and I'm re-attaching the rest of the document for > your reference. > > > > Just to share, Leo is the Director of Asia Business Development in IEEE APAC, > based in Singapore. He also oversees IEEE educational activities. He joined > this WG sometime in April. > > > > Circulating on your behalf, thanks Leo. > > > > Regards, > > Kelvin > > > > Kelvin WONG > > Head, Outreach & Public Responsibility, Asia Pacific > > Asia Pacific Hub, Singapore > > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) > > > > Direct: +65 6808 6672 <tel:%2B65%206808%206672> > > www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org/> > > > > From: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> > Date: Monday, June 9, 2014 4:39 PM > To: "apilp_discuss@apilp.asia" <apilp_discuss@apilp.asia> > Subject: [Apilp_discuss] Proposed Next Steps for APILP and Call on 13 June > (Fri) 2pm SGT > > > > Dear all, > > > > Thanks to all who have provided your comments to the TOR! The comment period > for the TOR for the APILP closed last Fri, 6 June. > > > > The latest draft TOR document is attached. For your ease of reference, I'll > also be posting the key development and documents for this APILP initiative on > the ICANN community wiki here: > https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=48334730 > > > > Proposed Next Steps > > > > On the way forward for APILP, we've received some suggestions. As secretariat > for this group, may we propose the following: > > >> >> 1) Nomination of Chair and Vice Chair: At the APILP Open Working Group >> discussion during ICANN49 Singapore in March 2014, we asked for volunteers to >> be part of this Working Group (WG). You are included in this group as you >> have indicated your interest to be part of the WG - thanks for this. We are >> inviting nomination of Chair and Vice Chair to this APILP-WG. >> >> >> >> 2) On APILP discussion during APrIGF Delhi (Aug): There were some suggestions >> for APrIGF in Delhi, Aug, in relation to APILP, including a presentation of >> the APILP workshop proposal. We hope to seek comments to the two proposals >> (a) and (b) below. >> >> >>> >>> (a) For the APILP-WG to have a face to face meeting to discuss the TOR >>> during Delhi APrIGF (Aug); >>> >>> >>> >>> (b) To do a first run of the APILP during Delhi APrIGF (Aug), initial draft >>> proposal as attached (Proposal 1). >> >> >> >> For (a), as the APrIGF is still another 2 months away, assuming we do go >> ahead with TOR discussion then, there is still some time to further flesh out >> some of the proposed approach and proposals that we've received in the >> meantime. This can then be discussed together with the TOR if necessary. For >> (b), we welcome feedback to Proposal 1 (such as curriculum, fees, participant >> numbers etc), as well as other proposals if there are. >> >> >> >> 3) Others: Other suggestions, if any, are welcome too. > > > > APILP Conference Call > > > > In view of the above, we'd like to also propose to do a call to go through 1) > (Nomination), and if possible and time permits, discuss the proposals in 2) on > 13 June (Fri) 2pm-3pm Singapore time (UTC 0600-0700). We will share the call > details and the names of the WG members in a subsequent email. > > > > Thank you. > > > > Regards, > > Kelvin > > > > Kelvin WONG > > Head, Outreach & Public Responsibility, Asia Pacific > > Asia Pacific Hub, Singapore > > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) > > > > Direct: +65 6808 6672 <tel:%2B65%206808%206672> > > www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org/> > > > > From: "Ang Peng Hwa (Prof)" <TPHANG@ntu.edu.sg> > Date: Friday, May 30, 2014 7:23 PM > To: Yannis Li <yannis@registry.asia> > Cc: "apilp_discuss@apilp.asia" <apilp_discuss@apilp.asia> > Subject: Re: [Apilp_discuss] Fwd: For discussion: Draft Terms of Reference for > Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program (APILP) > > > > Agreed. It’ll be a good opportunity to work out the ToR. > > > Regards, > Peng Hwa > > > From: Yannis Li [mailto:yannis@registry.asia] > Sent: Friday, 30 May, 2014 5:57 PM > To: Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) > Cc: Hong Xue; Srinivas Chendi; apilp_discuss@apilp.asia > Subject: Re: [Apilp_discuss] Fwd: For discussion: Draft Terms of Reference for > Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program (APILP) > > > Dear All, > > > > FYI, Hong has kindly helped to submit a workshop proposal on this APILP > initiative which opens for discussion during APrIGF Delhi from 3-6 Aug which > is around 2-month time away. > > > > While I agree with Penghwa that acting quick is essential, APrIGF shall give > us another good F2F opportunity to further discuss about the future of this > initiative as well. > > > > Would encourage any of you here to attend and join the session. More > information could be found at http://2014.rigf.asia <http://2014.rigf.asia/> . > The agenda is under development though. > > > > Thanks. > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Yannis Li > > DotAsia Organisation Ltd. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------ > > Address: 12F, Daily House, 35-37 Haiphong Road, Tsim Sha Tsui, Hong Kong > > Tel: +852 2244 7900 <tel:%2B852%202244%207900> ＿Fax: +852 2244 7902 > <tel:%2B852%202244%207902> ＿http://www.dot.asia <http://www.dot.asia/> > > > > > > > > On 29 May 2014, at 4:56 PM, Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) wrote: > > > Hi Sunny and Hong. > > > > I had been travelling for about a couple of weeks and was looking for the > draft ToR that Peter had amended. Curiously enough I did not see it until this > ToR v3. > > > > The ToR includes what I—and I suppose some others too—consider ambitious. I’m > concerned that if we take as long as we did in crafting the ToR as our APrIGF > CFP template, then many moons might pass. And the APrIGF had the benefit of a > couple of runs. > > > > May I suggest this: we do the run. And we meet f2f to aim to conclude the ToR. > > > > I am proposing a 1-day session because I am thinking of the Indian bureaucrats > who may form a sizeable group. It’s really a primer. I’m also concerned that a > longer duration would not be manageable. Also, I’m concerned that if it’s too > extended, people would have a hard time extending their stay. > > > > Appended below is the draft curriculum. Essentially—background+context, the > technical aspects (to explain the root server), the stakeholders and their > roles, and then the current status. > > > > I have highlighted the speaker for PM1 as I was in Sri Lanka and met Rohan > Samarjiva and he had expressed interest to attend if we invite him. Rohan is a > friend, ex-professor at Ohio State in telecom, a former DG of Sri Lanka > Telecom but now heading a think-tank in ICT policy. He is therefore > comfortable in both the ITU and Internet space and therefore not hostile to > the Internet. > > > > Speakers for the other slots are open. > > > > Let me know your thoughts. > > > > > > TimeTopicContentSpeakers > (Tentative)Remarks > Day 1 > AM1Welcome & IntroductionIntroduction to the programme > The Development of the InternetSets the context, development and background of > key playersHistorical Context > AM2Infrastructure: How the Internet worksDNS, IP addresses, peering, > IPv4/6APNIC(?)Technical background > PM1Stakeholders, role and policiesThe connection between Internet and > telecomRohan SamarajivaTentative > PM2Current DevelopmentWGIG and the Background to the IGF > NetMundialPanelIGF and current status > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > Peng Hwa > > > > From: apilp_discuss-bounces@apilp.asia > [mailto:apilp_discuss-bounces@apilp.asia] On Behalf Of Hong Xue > Sent: Thursday, 29 May, 2014 1:21 PM > To: Srinivas Chendi > Cc: apilp_discuss@apilp.asia > Subject: Re: [Apilp_discuss] Fwd: For discussion: Draft Terms of Reference for > Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program (APILP) > > > > Thanks, Sunny, the modifications look very good. Regarding 5.1, yes we would > need to compose the WG sooner rather than later. > > > > Hong > > > Professor Dr. Hong Xue > Director of Beijing Normal University Institute for Internet Policy & Law > (IIPL) > > Co-Director of UNCITRAL-BNU Joint Certificate Program on International > E-Commerce Law > http://www.iipl.org.cn/ > 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street > Beijing 100875 China > > > On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Srinivas Chendi <sunny@apnic.net> wrote: > > Dear Kelvin, > > Thanks for circulating the ToR v3 for comments and thanks to Peter for > providing his suggested changes. > > APNIC suggested changes are in the attached version 4 document. > > With regards to APILP or APIGLP, we prefer with APILP as it is broad and > inclusive which can cover a number of topics. > > 5.1.a > This is a very important and is a very big job but who will do it? > > > Regards > Sunny > > > > > > On 6/05/2014 7:02 PM, Kelvin Wong wrote: >> >> Dear Peter, well received. Thanks for your comments and edits! >> Circulating to APILP (for now) mailing list. >> >> Regards, >> Kelvin >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>> *From:* Peter Dengate Thrush <barrister@chambers.gen.nz >>> <mailto:barrister@chambers.gen.nz>> >>> *Date:* 6 May, 2014 12:04:40 am GMT+9 >>> *To:* Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org <mailto:kelvin.wong@icann.org>> >>> *Subject:* *Re: [Apilp_discuss] For discussion: Draft Terms of >>> Reference for Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program (APILP)* >>> >>> >>> >>> Kelvin >>> I seem to be having trouble posting to the list - please forward this >>> for me - thanks >>> >>> regards >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> >>> Thanks Kelvin, >>> This is an excellent start - it seems to have been a productive >>> meeting at ICANN Singapore, and I am sorry I missed it. >>> >>> I have made some suggested changes in Version 3 of the document which >>> I attach. >>> In proposing these, I note first how much easier it is to critique >>> other's work than it it is to create it - thanks again for the first >>> draft, which sets the scene very effectively. >>> >>> Other than some changes such as numbering and some grammar edits, I >>> think there could be some productive discussion about a couple of items: >>> >>> 1. The name - as its about Internet Governance, it seems sensible to >>> me to include that in the name of the document and the name of the >>> exercise. >>> Its not just about "Internet Leadership" which is being done in many >>> areas, of registry management, law, security etc, but specifically >>> about IG. I think its healthier to acknowledge and display that focus. >>> >>> 2. I am not accustomed to describing the Asia Pacific area as "APAC", >>> so started to re-name it AP - but didn't continue....happy to defer if >>> there is a widespread acceptance of that abbreviation. >>> >>> 3. I am somewhat concerned at the current focus on the domain name >>> industry: I have highlit the term a few times. I think both that there >>> is more to the IG topic than that, and also that the domain name >>> industry can be expected to be busy taking care of itself through such >>> organisations as APTLD, ICANN and the newly formed Domain Name >>> Association ( "DNA"). Although I think we need to be careful about >>> opening the door to an unlimited range of topics, I have added IP >>> address allocation mechanisms, multistakeholderism, online human >>> rights, network security and network neutrality as possible topics. In >>> any event, these should be signals, rather than instructions to those >>> who will eventually draft the actual curriculum. >>> >>> 4. I have separated out and made clearer the tasks of preparing the >>> curriculum from preparing business and financial plans to support it. >>> >>> >>> I hope these suggestion might be thought useful in furthering the >>> discussion - thanks. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> Peter >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Apilp_discuss mailing list >> Apilp_discuss@apilp.asia >> https://mailman.dotasia.org/mailman/listinfo/apilp_discuss > > > _______________________________________________ > Apilp_discuss mailing list > Apilp_discuss@apilp.asia > https://mailman.dotasia.org/mailman/listinfo/apilp_discuss > > > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY:This email is intended solely for the person(s) named and may > be confidential and/or privileged.If you are not the intended recipient,please > delete it,notify us and do not copy,use,or disclose its content. > > Towards A Sustainable Earth:Print Only When Necessary.Thank you. > _______________________________________________ > Apilp_discuss mailing list > Apilp_discuss@apilp.asia > https://mailman.dotasia.org/mailman/listinfo/apilp_discuss > > > _______________________________________________ > Apilp_discuss mailing list > Apilp_discuss@apilp.asia > https://mailman.dotasia.org/mailman/listinfo/apilp_discuss > > > _______________________________________________ > Apilp_discuss mailing list > Apilp_discuss@apilp.asia > https://mailman.dotasia.org/mailman/listinfo/apilp_discuss > > _______________________________________________ > Apilp_discuss mailing list > Apilp_discuss@apilp.asia > https://mailman.dotasia.org/mailman/listinfo/apilp_discuss > > > _______________________________________________ > Apilp_discuss mailing list > Apilp_discuss@apilp.asia > https://mailman.dotasia.org/mailman/listinfo/apilp_discuss > > >