Notes for 3rd APILP Call [17 July, UTC 7am] and revised outreach mailer
Dear all, Thanks to those who attended the 3rd APILP call yesterday. The notes for the call is attached for your information. We've also revised the info sheet to reflect the latest development based on yesterday's call, and added the bios of the confirmed speakers. Please use this for your dissemination. Thank you very much and have a great weekend ahead! Regards, Kelvin Kelvin WONG Head, Outreach & Public Responsibility, Asia Pacific Asia Pacific Hub, Singapore Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +65 6808 6672 www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org> From: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 10:59 AM To: "apilp_discuss@apilp.asia" <apilp_discuss@apilp.asia> Subject: [Apilp_discuss] Outreach mailer for APILP Pilot Program (Delhi) Dear all, We've "gone live" for the payment link for the APILP Workshop in Delhi – so we're good to go! Please see the attached outreach mailer and a suggested note for your use, if necessary. We will also reach out to the local organizer and to other mailing lists. Thank you. Regards, Kelvin == Dear colleagues, The Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program (APILP) will have its inaugural workshop on 3 Aug (Sun) 9am at the Crown Plaza Greater Noida, in conjunction with the Asia Pacific Regional Internet Governance Forum (APrIGF) in Delhi, India. As a member of the working group of the APILP, I would like to invite you and your colleagues to join us for a one-day immersion workshop, as internet leaders from our Asia Pacific region speak on topics ranging from development on Internet Governance and NetMundial, to internet infrastructure and Domain Name System (DNS). The workshop will also provide you with a good background and update on the World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS), Internet Governance Forum (IGF), as well as on the transition of the stewardship of the functions of IANA (Internet Assigned Names and Numbers) and generic top-level domain names from the Asia Pacific perspective. You can find more details on the schedule in the attached info sheet, as well as the via the APriGF website http://2014.rigf.asia/pre-event/. [Administrative note from the program committee: Registration for this session can be done by clicking on APILP Registration <https://www.eventbrite.com/e/asia-pacific-internet-leadership-programme-tic kets-12261908699> (on a first come, first served basis). Participation fee for full day session is at US$30 per pax (includes lunch, 2 tea breaks, and a welcome package). Organized by APILP Program Committee. For enquiries, please contact apachub@icann.org.] Thank you, and I look forward to having you at the workshop. Regards, == Kelvin WONG Head, Outreach & Public Responsibility, Asia Pacific Asia Pacific Hub, Singapore Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +65 6808 6672 www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org> From: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 10:24 AM To: "apilp_discuss@apilp.asia" <apilp_discuss@apilp.asia> Subject: [Apilp_discuss] Outreach mailer for APILP Pilot Program Dear all, We've come up with the outreach mailer for the APILP Pilot Program as attached. The payment details can be found in the link APILP Registration <https://www.eventbrite.com/e/asia-pacific-internet-leadership-programme-tic kets-12261908699> . Currently, we've protected this page via password (password: 12345678), to allow for tweaks if necessary, but we'll remove the password and have it ready for dissemination by tomorrow morning. Thanks Peng Hwa for setting up the account and putting the measures in place, and Yannis for approaching some of the speakers. Greatly appreciate if you could help to share this with your contacts starting from tomorrow, 16 July, when the page will go live. Thanks a lot, Kelvin == Write-up on APILP Pilot Program (3 Aug) == The Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program, APILP, will have its inaugural run on 3 Aug (Sun), in conjunction with the Asia Pacific Regional Internet Governance Forum (APrIGF) to be held in Delhi, India. Join us for a one-day immersion session, as regional internet leaders speak on topics ranging from the background to Internet Governance and NetMundial, to internet infrastructure and Domain Name System (DNS). Keep up to date on World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS) and Internet Governance Forum (IGF). Understand the significance of transition of the stewardship of the functions of IANA (Internet Assigned Names and Numbers) and the development on generic top-level domain names. All in one day! Sign up for this session by clicking on APILP Registration <https://www.eventbrite.com/e/asia-pacific-internet-leadership-programme-tic kets-12261908699> (first come, first served basis). Participation fee for full day session: US$30 per pax (includes lunch, 2 tea breaks, and a welcome package). Organized by APILP Working Group. For enquiries, please contact apachub@icann.org. == Kelvin WONG Head, Outreach & Public Responsibility, Asia Pacific Asia Pacific Hub, Singapore Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +65 6808 6672 www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org> From: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> Date: Friday, July 11, 2014 11:31 AM To: "apilp_discuss@apilp.asia" <apilp_discuss@apilp.asia> Subject: [Apilp_discuss] Notes for 2nd APILP Call and APILP Chair Confirmation [10 July, UTC 8am, 4pm SGT] Dear all, Thanks for those who attended the very fruitful discussion yesterday. The key discussion points and action items raised in the call are recorded in the document attached for your reference. The revised proposed APILP pilot program is also attached. Notably, we have confirmed our APILP Working Group Chair, and we're moving ahead with the pilot program. We'll need all the help we can get for this, especially on the outreach for the program. Next APILP Working Group Coordination Call (17 July) The next coordination call is proposed to be held on 17 July (Thursday) UTC 7am (3pm SGT). Please do join in the call if you are able to make it. Thank you. [As usual, key development and documents on APILP working group can be found on the ICANN community wiki here: https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=48334730.] Regards, Kelvin Kelvin WONG Head, Outreach & Public Responsibility, Asia Pacific Asia Pacific Hub, Singapore Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +65 6808 6672 www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org> From: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> Date: Thursday, July 10, 2014 3:53 PM To: Duncan Macintosh <duncan@apnic.net>, "Rajnesh D. Singh (singh@isoc.org)" <singh@isoc.org>, "apilp_discuss@apilp.asia" <apilp_discuss@apilp.asia> Cc: Sanjaya Sanjaya <sanjaya@apnic.net> Subject: Re: [Apilp_discuss] 2nd APILP Call and APILP Chair Confirmation [10 July, UTC 8am, 4pm SGT] Thanks Duncan and team for this, and noted on your comments regarding the proposal. I will share the discussion points of the call with you. Looking forward to speaking with the rest in a while. Regards, Kelvin Kelvin WONG Head, Outreach & Public Responsibility, Asia Pacific Asia Pacific Hub, Singapore Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +65 6808 6672 www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org> From: Duncan Macintosh <duncan@apnic.net> Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2014 12:22 PM To: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org>, "Rajnesh D. Singh (singh@isoc.org)" <singh@isoc.org>, "apilp_discuss@apilp.asia" <apilp_discuss@apilp.asia> Cc: Srinivas Chendi <sunny@apnic.net>, Paul Wilson <pwilson@apnic.net>, Pablo Hinojosa <pablo@apnic.net>, Sanjaya Sanjaya <sanjaya@apnic.net> Subject: FW: [Apilp_discuss] 2nd APILP Call and APILP Chair Confirmation [10 July, UTC 8am, 4pm SGT] Kelvin, Thanks for your continuing work on this and warmest congratulations to Prof Ang Peng Hwa on his appointment as APILP chair. Unfortunately, Sunny and I will not be able to join the coordination call on Thursday, 10 July. However, we wanted to note the proposed one day syllabus that’s attached and the morning presentation by APNIC entitled “Infrastructure: How the Internet works (DNS, IP addresses, peering, IPv4/6). At this stage we have not finalized who will handle this presentation in Delhi on behalf of APNIC, so please leave it blank for now and we will provide confirmed details as soon as we can on how best to handle it. All the best for the upcoming coordination call. Regards Duncan From:apilp_discuss-bounces@apilp.asia [mailto:apilp_discuss-bounces@apilp.asia] On Behalf Of Kelvin Wong Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 5:43 PM To: apilp_discuss@apilp.asia; Peter Dengate Thrush; YJ Park; Rajnesh D. Singh Cc: Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) Subject: [Apilp_discuss] 2nd APILP Call and APILP Chair Confirmation [10 July, UTC 8am, 4pm SGT] Dear all, Thanks much for the show of support and thanks Prof Ang Peng Hwa for agreeing to lead the APILP as Chair! Thanks also to those who responded to the Doodle poll. In view of this, the details for our next call are as follows: 2nd APILP Coordination Call 1. Date/Time: * Thursday 10 July, UTC 8am (4pm SGT) * Conference ID: 89897 * Adigo phone information: US Access Number: 213 233 3193 / US Toll Free Access Number: 800 550 6865 / International Adigo phone numbers: http://adigo.com/icann/ 2. Agenda: * Confirmation of APILP Chair/Vice Chair * Discussion on proposed pilot program (as attached and slightly revised from an earlier version), including suitable speakers, etc [Led by Chair] * Any other matters [Led by Chair] Should you be unable to participate in the call but wish to provide your comments/help to the program (or any part of the agenda), please feel free to send me an email or reply directly to this mailing list (apilp_discuss@apilp.asia). Looking forward to the meeting. Thank you. Regards, Kelvin Kelvin WONG Head, Outreach & Public Responsibility, Asia Pacific Asia Pacific Hub, Singapore Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +65 6808 6672 www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org> From: Peter Dengate Thrush <barrister@chambers.gen.nz> Date: Monday, July 7, 2014 2:56 PM To: YJ Park <yjpark@sunykorea.ac.kr> Cc: "apilp_discuss@apilp.asia" <apilp_discuss@apilp.asia> Subject: Re: [Apilp_discuss] Gentle Reminder: APILP Nomination of Chair/Vice Chair and Proposed Call +1 regards Peter On 7/07/2014, at 5:53 pm, YJ Park <yjpark@sunykorea.ac.kr> wrote: Dear all, I support! Best, YJ 2014-07-04 15:35 GMT+09:00 Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com>: Dear Kelvin, Thanks for the reminder and the doodling. I've some short conversations with Prof. Ang Peng Hwa about the nominations. He's kindly agreed to take the lead. I, hereby, nominate Prof. Ang, Director of Singapore Internet Research Center and Professor of Singapore Nanyang Technology University, as the Chair of Working Group. Peng Hwa might confirmation his acceptance himself. Best, Hong Professor Dr. Hong Xue Director of Beijing Normal University Institute for Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Co-Director of UNCITRAL-BNU Joint Certificate Program on International E-Commerce Law http://www.iipl.org.cn/ 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> wrote: Dear all, Hope you are doing fine. Some matters for your attention on the follow-ups for APILP, are appended below please. 1. Nomination period for the proposed Chair and Vice Chair Reminder that the nomination period for the proposed Chair and Vice Chair ends this Sunday (6 July). The revised TOR, amended only to include the terms of reference for Chair and Vice Chair, is attached. ICANN APAC Hub will continue to post key development and documents on the ICANN community wiki here: https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=48334730. 2. 2nd APILP coordination call We're proposing a 2nd APILP coordination call on Thursday or Friday UTC 8am (4pm SGT). Details to follow. Please fill up the doodle poll to indicate your preferred date: http://doodle.com/7nwucubr7itv9xyu <http://doodle.com/7nwucubr7itv9xyu> . Thank you. Regards, Kelvin Kelvin WONG Head, Outreach & Public Responsibility, Asia Pacific Asia Pacific Hub, Singapore Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +65 6808 6672 <tel:%2B65%206808%206672> www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org/> From: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> Date: Monday, June 16, 2014 11:39 AM To: "apilp_discuss@apilp.asia" <apilp_discuss@apilp.asia> Subject: [Apilp_discuss] Notes for Call on 13 June (Fri) 2pm SGT Dear all, Thanks to all those who participated in the APILP call on Friday. The brief notes for the call is attached below. Attendees Cheryl Langdon Orr, ISOC AU Duncan Macintosh, APNIC Hong Xue, Beijing Normal University Kelvin Wong, ICANN Kuek Yu Chuang, ICANN Low Jiarong, ICANN Yannis Li, DotAsia 1) Nomination of Chair and Vice Chair * Process of nomination and election of Chair and Vice Chair for the APILP to follow the following election process: > * Having a nomination period (21 days), during which members are allowed to > put forward the names. > * Self nomination allowed. If nominating a 2nd person, to allow 7-10 days > within the nomination period, for nominated party to accept the nomination * APILP TOR should consequently include the terms of reference for the Chair and Vice Chair too, such as: > * Period of term: (Proposed) 2 years > * Number of terms allowed: (Proposed) 2 * Cheryl agreed to help guide the nomination/election process of the Chair/Vice Chair for APILP * There was a suggestion to have an interim Chair/Vice Chair to help lead discussions, before the Chair/Vice Chair are elected/take office. There was also a suggestion that ICANN as secretariat could help in the interim. 2) On APILP proposals * Discussion on the specifics of the proposal will continue when the Chair/Vice Chair is selected. APrIGF secretariat (Yannis) updated the meeting that the APrIGF pre-event proposal (1 day workshop as proposed Ang Peng Hwa) was accepted by APrIGF MSG. She also reminded the meeting that Xue Hong has previously helped to include APILP as an agenda in APrIGF in Delhi, the proposals and suggestions on the details for APILP could be discussed. 90 mins is scheduled for this. * For the proposal, there was also a suggestion to proactively look into the mode of learning, including having hybrid modes of remote participation and e-learning etc, to complement more traditional face-to-face sessions. 3) Follow up for APILP-WG * To have another ad-hoc call 3 weeks later (around 2nd week of July) to check back on progress and provide update. This is also aligned to the timeline for election. ICANN will in the interim, continue to move the project along as secretariat. * Nomination period: Start 16 June (Mon), end 6 July (Sun). * Proposed 2nd APILP call on 8 July (Tuesday) UTC 4am (12pm SGT) - call to be confirmed. (ICANN APAC Hub will continue to post key development and documents on the ICANN community wiki here: https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=48334730. We will also circulate a revised TOR to include the terms of reference for Chair and Vice Chair.) Thank you and Regards, Kelvin Kelvin WONG Head, Outreach & Public Responsibility, Asia Pacific Asia Pacific Hub, Singapore Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +65 6808 6672 <tel:%2B65%206808%206672> www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org/> From: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> Date: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 2:37 PM To: "apilp_discuss@apilp.asia" <apilp_discuss@apilp.asia> Subject: [Apilp_discuss] Proposed Next Steps for APILP and Call on 13 June (Fri) 2pm SGT Dear everyone, We've just received another proposal on the APILP, from Leo Hwa Chiang. I've named this as Proposal 2, and I'm re-attaching the rest of the document for your reference. Just to share, Leo is the Director of Asia Business Development in IEEE APAC, based in Singapore. He also oversees IEEE educational activities. He joined this WG sometime in April. Circulating on your behalf, thanks Leo. Regards, Kelvin Kelvin WONG Head, Outreach & Public Responsibility, Asia Pacific Asia Pacific Hub, Singapore Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +65 6808 6672 <tel:%2B65%206808%206672> www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org/> From: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> Date: Monday, June 9, 2014 4:39 PM To: "apilp_discuss@apilp.asia" <apilp_discuss@apilp.asia> Subject: [Apilp_discuss] Proposed Next Steps for APILP and Call on 13 June (Fri) 2pm SGT Dear all, Thanks to all who have provided your comments to the TOR! The comment period for the TOR for the APILP closed last Fri, 6 June. The latest draft TOR document is attached. For your ease of reference, I'll also be posting the key development and documents for this APILP initiative on the ICANN community wiki here: https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=48334730 Proposed Next Steps On the way forward for APILP, we've received some suggestions. As secretariat for this group, may we propose the following: > > 1) Nomination of Chair and Vice Chair: At the APILP Open Working Group > discussion during ICANN49 Singapore in March 2014, we asked for volunteers to > be part of this Working Group (WG). You are included in this group as you > have indicated your interest to be part of the WG - thanks for this. We are > inviting nomination of Chair and Vice Chair to this APILP-WG. > > > > 2) On APILP discussion during APrIGF Delhi (Aug): There were some suggestions > for APrIGF in Delhi, Aug, in relation to APILP, including a presentation of > the APILP workshop proposal. We hope to seek comments to the two proposals (a) > and (b) below. > > >> >> (a) For the APILP-WG to have a face to face meeting to discuss the TOR during >> Delhi APrIGF (Aug); >> >> >> >> (b) To do a first run of the APILP during Delhi APrIGF (Aug), initial draft >> proposal as attached (Proposal 1). > > > > For (a), as the APrIGF is still another 2 months away, assuming we do go ahead > with TOR discussion then, there is still some time to further flesh out some > of the proposed approach and proposals that we've received in the meantime. > This can then be discussed together with the TOR if necessary. For (b), we > welcome feedback to Proposal 1 (such as curriculum, fees, participant numbers > etc), as well as other proposals if there are. > > > > 3) Others: Other suggestions, if any, are welcome too. APILP Conference Call In view of the above, we'd like to also propose to do a call to go through 1) (Nomination), and if possible and time permits, discuss the proposals in 2) on 13 June (Fri) 2pm-3pm Singapore time (UTC 0600-0700). We will share the call details and the names of the WG members in a subsequent email. Thank you. Regards, Kelvin Kelvin WONG Head, Outreach & Public Responsibility, Asia Pacific Asia Pacific Hub, Singapore Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +65 6808 6672 <tel:%2B65%206808%206672> www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org/> From: "Ang Peng Hwa (Prof)" <TPHANG@ntu.edu.sg> Date: Friday, May 30, 2014 7:23 PM To: Yannis Li <yannis@registry.asia> Cc: "apilp_discuss@apilp.asia" <apilp_discuss@apilp.asia> Subject: Re: [Apilp_discuss] Fwd: For discussion: Draft Terms of Reference for Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program (APILP) Agreed. It’ll be a good opportunity to work out the ToR. Regards, Peng Hwa From: Yannis Li [mailto:yannis@registry.asia] Sent: Friday, 30 May, 2014 5:57 PM To: Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) Cc: Hong Xue; Srinivas Chendi; apilp_discuss@apilp.asia Subject: Re: [Apilp_discuss] Fwd: For discussion: Draft Terms of Reference for Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program (APILP) Dear All, FYI, Hong has kindly helped to submit a workshop proposal on this APILP initiative which opens for discussion during APrIGF Delhi from 3-6 Aug which is around 2-month time away. While I agree with Penghwa that acting quick is essential, APrIGF shall give us another good F2F opportunity to further discuss about the future of this initiative as well. Would encourage any of you here to attend and join the session. More information could be found at http://2014.rigf.asia <http://2014.rigf.asia/> . The agenda is under development though. Thanks. Best Regards, Yannis Li DotAsia Organisation Ltd. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------- Address: 12F, Daily House, 35-37 Haiphong Road, Tsim Sha Tsui, Hong Kong Tel: +852 2244 7900 <tel:%2B852%202244%207900> ＿Fax: +852 2244 7902 <tel:%2B852%202244%207902> ＿http://www.dot.asia <http://www.dot.asia/> On 29 May 2014, at 4:56 PM, Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) wrote: Hi Sunny and Hong. I had been travelling for about a couple of weeks and was looking for the draft ToR that Peter had amended. Curiously enough I did not see it until this ToR v3. The ToR includes what I—and I suppose some others too—consider ambitious. I’m concerned that if we take as long as we did in crafting the ToR as our APrIGF CFP template, then many moons might pass. And the APrIGF had the benefit of a couple of runs. May I suggest this: we do the run. And we meet f2f to aim to conclude the ToR. I am proposing a 1-day session because I am thinking of the Indian bureaucrats who may form a sizeable group. It’s really a primer. I’m also concerned that a longer duration would not be manageable. Also, I’m concerned that if it’s too extended, people would have a hard time extending their stay. Appended below is the draft curriculum. Essentially—background+context, the technical aspects (to explain the root server), the stakeholders and their roles, and then the current status. I have highlighted the speaker for PM1 as I was in Sri Lanka and met Rohan Samarjiva and he had expressed interest to attend if we invite him. Rohan is a friend, ex-professor at Ohio State in telecom, a former DG of Sri Lanka Telecom but now heading a think-tank in ICT policy. He is therefore comfortable in both the ITU and Internet space and therefore not hostile to the Internet. Speakers for the other slots are open. Let me know your thoughts. TimeTopicContentSpeakers (Tentative)Remarks Day 1 AM1Welcome & IntroductionIntroduction to the programme The Development of the InternetSets the context, development and background of key playersHistorical Context AM2Infrastructure: How the Internet worksDNS, IP addresses, peering, IPv4/6APNIC(?)Technical background PM1Stakeholders, role and policiesThe connection between Internet and telecomRohan SamarajivaTentative PM2Current DevelopmentWGIG and the Background to the IGF NetMundialPanelIGF and current status Regards, Peng Hwa From: apilp_discuss-bounces@apilp.asia [mailto:apilp_discuss-bounces@apilp.asia] On Behalf Of Hong Xue Sent: Thursday, 29 May, 2014 1:21 PM To: Srinivas Chendi Cc: apilp_discuss@apilp.asia Subject: Re: [Apilp_discuss] Fwd: For discussion: Draft Terms of Reference for Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program (APILP) Thanks, Sunny, the modifications look very good. Regarding 5.1, yes we would need to compose the WG sooner rather than later. Hong Professor Dr. Hong Xue Director of Beijing Normal University Institute for Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Co-Director of UNCITRAL-BNU Joint Certificate Program on International E-Commerce Law http://www.iipl.org.cn/ 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Srinivas Chendi <sunny@apnic.net> wrote: Dear Kelvin, Thanks for circulating the ToR v3 for comments and thanks to Peter for providing his suggested changes. APNIC suggested changes are in the attached version 4 document. With regards to APILP or APIGLP, we prefer with APILP as it is broad and inclusive which can cover a number of topics. 5.1.a This is a very important and is a very big job but who will do it? Regards Sunny On 6/05/2014 7:02 PM, Kelvin Wong wrote: > > Dear Peter, well received. Thanks for your comments and edits! > Circulating to APILP (for now) mailing list. > > Regards, > Kelvin > > Sent from my iPad > > Begin forwarded message: >> >> *From:* Peter Dengate Thrush <barrister@chambers.gen.nz >> <mailto:barrister@chambers.gen.nz>> >> *Date:* 6 May, 2014 12:04:40 am GMT+9 >> *To:* Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org <mailto:kelvin.wong@icann.org>> >> *Subject:* *Re: [Apilp_discuss] For discussion: Draft Terms of >> Reference for Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program (APILP)* >> >> >> >> Kelvin >> I seem to be having trouble posting to the list - please forward this >> for me - thanks >> >> regards >> >> Peter >> >> >> Thanks Kelvin, >> This is an excellent start - it seems to have been a productive >> meeting at ICANN Singapore, and I am sorry I missed it. >> >> I have made some suggested changes in Version 3 of the document which >> I attach. >> In proposing these, I note first how much easier it is to critique >> other's work than it it is to create it - thanks again for the first >> draft, which sets the scene very effectively. >> >> Other than some changes such as numbering and some grammar edits, I >> think there could be some productive discussion about a couple of items: >> >> 1. The name - as its about Internet Governance, it seems sensible to >> me to include that in the name of the document and the name of the >> exercise. >> Its not just about "Internet Leadership" which is being done in many >> areas, of registry management, law, security etc, but specifically >> about IG. I think its healthier to acknowledge and display that focus. >> >> 2. I am not accustomed to describing the Asia Pacific area as "APAC", >> so started to re-name it AP - but didn't continue....happy to defer if >> there is a widespread acceptance of that abbreviation. >> >> 3. I am somewhat concerned at the current focus on the domain name >> industry: I have highlit the term a few times. I think both that there >> is more to the IG topic than that, and also that the domain name >> industry can be expected to be busy taking care of itself through such >> organisations as APTLD, ICANN and the newly formed Domain Name >> Association ( "DNA"). Although I think we need to be careful about >> opening the door to an unlimited range of topics, I have added IP >> address allocation mechanisms, multistakeholderism, online human >> rights, network security and network neutrality as possible topics. In >> any event, these should be signals, rather than instructions to those >> who will eventually draft the actual curriculum. >> >> 4. I have separated out and made clearer the tasks of preparing the >> curriculum from preparing business and financial plans to support it. >> >> >> I hope these suggestion might be thought useful in furthering the >> discussion - thanks. >> >> Regards >> >> >> Peter > > > _______________________________________________ > Apilp_discuss mailing list > Apilp_discuss@apilp.asia > https://mailman.dotasia.org/mailman/listinfo/apilp_discuss _______________________________________________ Apilp_discuss mailing list Apilp_discuss@apilp.asia https://mailman.dotasia.org/mailman/listinfo/apilp_discuss CONFIDENTIALITY:This email is intended solely for the person(s) named and may be confidential and/or privileged.If you are not the intended recipient,please delete it,notify us and do not copy,use,or disclose its content. 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Dear Friends: Durin the APILP session held this week in India we agreed that it would be a good idea to create an inventory of courses available. I indicated that I had already started this exercise and have attached a copy of the spreadsheet. It is far, far from complete - because in the end it just got too much like work for me. But, we will resurrect it soon. One of the questions that I asked my members, but didn’t really get a good response, was how to categorise the training programs so that people can more easily find courses for them. Some easy options might be: Tutorial: Technical: IPv6: Tutorial: Technical: DNSSEC Workshop: Management: Disaster Planning Some some others are a bit harder. So, that’s where I got to. You’ll see that none of the training listed is APTLDs, because we don’t have the depth to do our own. Don Don Hollander General Manager gm@aptld.org
Excellent... I am very pleased to see this happen... CLO from my Mobile phone On 07/08/2014 3:45 pm, "Don Hollander" <gm@aptld.org> wrote:
Dear Friends:
Durin the APILP session held this week in India we agreed that it would be a good idea to create an inventory of courses available.
I indicated that I had already started this exercise and have attached a copy of the spreadsheet.
It is far, far from complete - because in the end it just got too much like work for me. But, we will resurrect it soon.
One of the questions that I asked my members, but didn’t really get a good response, was how to categorise the training programs so that people can more easily find courses for them.
Some easy options might be:
Tutorial: Technical: IPv6: Tutorial: Technical: DNSSEC Workshop: Management: Disaster Planning
Some some others are a bit harder.
So, that’s where I got to.
You’ll see that none of the training listed is APTLDs, because we don’t have the depth to do our own.
Don
Don Hollander General Manager gm@aptld.org
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Dear Don and all, Thanks much Don, this is very useful start. I've gotten some help to populate the courses from the ICANN perspective too, and made some additions to this (thanks Champika!), as attached. (For now, I've not included the online courses in ICANN Learn that is very specific to ICANN processes and ICANN community. Others are programs that are currently work in progress that I hope to include later.) Others: ISOC - I note that Don has also included the ISOC online courses. IEEE - There's a wealth of resources and courses, though these are very issues specific and we may need to go through with a fine-tooth comb if we are to include. Diplo - Learning from Diplo's capacity development program. I think the idea of categorizing the training programs into reasonable groups is great, and, as in your example, it could be based on the mode of delivery (workshop/tutorial/online etc) and the type of content (technical track and a management/leadership track etc) - we should definitely work on this next. It will also help in the identification of gaps and opportunities, which is one of the main points of this exercise. Meanwhile, could I check if there are any other inputs to add to this excel sheet list please? This is of course a live list and we can continue to add to this as and when we have sight of more courses. Thanks all again. Regards, Kelvin Kelvin WONG Head, Outreach & Public Responsibility, Asia Pacific Asia Pacific Hub, Singapore Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +65 6808 6672 www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org> On 8/7/14 11:14 AM, "Don Hollander" <gm@aptld.org> wrote:
Dear Friends:
Durin the APILP session held this week in India we agreed that it would be a good idea to create an inventory of courses available.
I indicated that I had already started this exercise and have attached a copy of the spreadsheet.
It is far, far from complete - because in the end it just got too much like work for me. But, we will resurrect it soon.
One of the questions that I asked my members, but didn¹t really get a good response, was how to categorise the training programs so that people can more easily find courses for them.
Some easy options might be:
Tutorial: Technical: IPv6: Tutorial: Technical: DNSSEC Workshop: Management: Disaster Planning
Some some others are a bit harder.
So, that¹s where I got to.
You¹ll see that none of the training listed is APTLDs, because we don¹t have the depth to do our own.
Don
Dear Don and Kelvin, Please find atttached updated information from APNIC for each of the categories. Let me know if you need anything else. Thanks again for your efforts on this. Regards Duncan -----Original Message----- From: apilp_discuss-bounces@apilp.asia [mailto:apilp_discuss-bounces@apilp.asia] On Behalf Of Kelvin Wong Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 4:08 PM To: Don Hollander; apilp_discuss@apilp.asia Subject: Re: [Apilp_discuss] Inventory of Courses Dear Don and all, Thanks much Don, this is very useful start. I've gotten some help to populate the courses from the ICANN perspective too, and made some additions to this (thanks Champika!), as attached. (For now, I've not included the online courses in ICANN Learn that is very specific to ICANN processes and ICANN community. Others are programs that are currently work in progress that I hope to include later.) Others: ISOC - I note that Don has also included the ISOC online courses. IEEE - There's a wealth of resources and courses, though these are very issues specific and we may need to go through with a fine-tooth comb if we are to include. Diplo - Learning from Diplo's capacity development program. I think the idea of categorizing the training programs into reasonable groups is great, and, as in your example, it could be based on the mode of delivery (workshop/tutorial/online etc) and the type of content (technical track and a management/leadership track etc) - we should definitely work on this next. It will also help in the identification of gaps and opportunities, which is one of the main points of this exercise. Meanwhile, could I check if there are any other inputs to add to this excel sheet list please? This is of course a live list and we can continue to add to this as and when we have sight of more courses. Thanks all again. Regards, Kelvin Kelvin WONG Head, Outreach & Public Responsibility, Asia Pacific Asia Pacific Hub, Singapore Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +65 6808 6672 www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org> On 8/7/14 11:14 AM, "Don Hollander" <gm@aptld.org> wrote:
Dear Friends:
Durin the APILP session held this week in India we agreed that it would be a good idea to create an inventory of courses available.
I indicated that I had already started this exercise and have attached a copy of the spreadsheet.
It is far, far from complete - because in the end it just got too much like work for me. But, we will resurrect it soon.
One of the questions that I asked my members, but didn¹t really get a good response, was how to categorise the training programs so that people can more easily find courses for them.
Some easy options might be:
Tutorial: Technical: IPv6: Tutorial: Technical: DNSSEC Workshop: Management: Disaster Planning
Some some others are a bit harder.
So, that¹s where I got to.
You¹ll see that none of the training listed is APTLDs, because we don¹t have the depth to do our own.
Don
Hi, I made a few additions (at the end). Please find attached. Best, Hong Professor Dr. Hong Xue Director of Beijing Normal University Institute for Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Co-Director of UNCITRAL-BNU Joint Certificate Program on International E-Commerce Law http://www.iipl.org.cn/ 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> wrote:
Dear Don and all,
Thanks much Don, this is very useful start. I've gotten some help to populate the courses from the ICANN perspective too, and made some additions to this (thanks Champika!), as attached. (For now, I've not included the online courses in ICANN Learn that is very specific to ICANN processes and ICANN community. Others are programs that are currently work in progress that I hope to include later.)
Others: ISOC - I note that Don has also included the ISOC online courses. IEEE - There's a wealth of resources and courses, though these are very issues specific and we may need to go through with a fine-tooth comb if we are to include. Diplo - Learning from Diplo's capacity development program.
I think the idea of categorizing the training programs into reasonable groups is great, and, as in your example, it could be based on the mode of delivery (workshop/tutorial/online etc) and the type of content (technical track and a management/leadership track etc) - we should definitely work on this next. It will also help in the identification of gaps and opportunities, which is one of the main points of this exercise.
Meanwhile, could I check if there are any other inputs to add to this excel sheet list please? This is of course a live list and we can continue to add to this as and when we have sight of more courses. Thanks all again.
Regards, Kelvin
Kelvin WONG Head, Outreach & Public Responsibility, Asia Pacific Asia Pacific Hub, Singapore Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
Direct: +65 6808 6672 www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org>
On 8/7/14 11:14 AM, "Don Hollander" <gm@aptld.org> wrote:
Dear Friends:
Durin the APILP session held this week in India we agreed that it would be a good idea to create an inventory of courses available.
I indicated that I had already started this exercise and have attached a copy of the spreadsheet.
It is far, far from complete - because in the end it just got too much like work for me. But, we will resurrect it soon.
One of the questions that I asked my members, but didn¹t really get a good response, was how to categorise the training programs so that people can more easily find courses for them.
Some easy options might be:
Tutorial: Technical: IPv6: Tutorial: Technical: DNSSEC Workshop: Management: Disaster Planning
Some some others are a bit harder.
So, that¹s where I got to.
You¹ll see that none of the training listed is APTLDs, because we don¹t have the depth to do our own.
Don
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Thanks Hong: Can you provide more details of the content of the 2.5 day course? (Have a look at the sort of brief description that’s included in the Delta-Risk courses.) And Kelvin, thank you. I don’t see Tech Day as Training, but more as a wee conference within a conference because the content changes at every meeting. It would be useful to also get more details of the syllabus for the ICANN programs that you provided. Don On 9/09/2014, at 10:14 pm, Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I made a few additions (at the end). Please find attached.
Best,
Hong
Professor Dr. Hong Xue Director of Beijing Normal University Institute for Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Co-Director of UNCITRAL-BNU Joint Certificate Program on International E-Commerce Law http://www.iipl.org.cn/ 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> wrote: Dear Don and all,
Thanks much Don, this is very useful start. I've gotten some help to populate the courses from the ICANN perspective too, and made some additions to this (thanks Champika!), as attached. (For now, I've not included the online courses in ICANN Learn that is very specific to ICANN processes and ICANN community. Others are programs that are currently work in progress that I hope to include later.)
Others: ISOC - I note that Don has also included the ISOC online courses. IEEE - There's a wealth of resources and courses, though these are very issues specific and we may need to go through with a fine-tooth comb if we are to include. Diplo - Learning from Diplo's capacity development program.
I think the idea of categorizing the training programs into reasonable groups is great, and, as in your example, it could be based on the mode of delivery (workshop/tutorial/online etc) and the type of content (technical track and a management/leadership track etc) - we should definitely work on this next. It will also help in the identification of gaps and opportunities, which is one of the main points of this exercise.
Meanwhile, could I check if there are any other inputs to add to this excel sheet list please? This is of course a live list and we can continue to add to this as and when we have sight of more courses. Thanks all again.
Regards, Kelvin
Kelvin WONG Head, Outreach & Public Responsibility, Asia Pacific Asia Pacific Hub, Singapore Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
Direct: +65 6808 6672 www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org>
On 8/7/14 11:14 AM, "Don Hollander" <gm@aptld.org> wrote:
Dear Friends:
Durin the APILP session held this week in India we agreed that it would be a good idea to create an inventory of courses available.
I indicated that I had already started this exercise and have attached a copy of the spreadsheet.
It is far, far from complete - because in the end it just got too much like work for me. But, we will resurrect it soon.
One of the questions that I asked my members, but didn¹t really get a good response, was how to categorise the training programs so that people can more easily find courses for them.
Some easy options might be:
Tutorial: Technical: IPv6: Tutorial: Technical: DNSSEC Workshop: Management: Disaster Planning
Some some others are a bit harder.
So, that¹s where I got to.
You¹ll see that none of the training listed is APTLDs, because we don¹t have the depth to do our own.
Don
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Thanks Hong for the inputs and Don for the comments. Don, sure, let me get more details and include in the list. Thanks again all. Regards, Kelvin Kelvin WONG Head, Outreach & Public Responsibility, Asia Pacific Asia Pacific Hub, Singapore Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +65 6808 6672 www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org> From: Don Hollander <gm@aptld.org> Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 at 4:21 PM To: Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com> Cc: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org>, "apilp_discuss@apilp.asia" <apilp_discuss@apilp.asia> Subject: Re: [Apilp_discuss] Inventory of Courses Thanks Hong: Can you provide more details of the content of the 2.5 day course? (Have a look at the sort of brief description that’s included in the Delta-Risk courses.) And Kelvin, thank you. I don’t see Tech Day as Training, but more as a wee conference within a conference because the content changes at every meeting. It would be useful to also get more details of the syllabus for the ICANN programs that you provided. Don On 9/09/2014, at 10:14 pm, Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I made a few additions (at the end). Please find attached.
Best,
Hong
Professor Dr. Hong Xue Director of Beijing Normal University Institute for Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Co-Director of UNCITRAL-BNU Joint Certificate Program on International E-Commerce Law http://www.iipl.org.cn/ 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> wrote:
Dear Don and all,
Thanks much Don, this is very useful start. I've gotten some help to populate the courses from the ICANN perspective too, and made some additions to this (thanks Champika!), as attached. (For now, I've not included the online courses in ICANN Learn that is very specific to ICANN processes and ICANN community. Others are programs that are currently work in progress that I hope to include later.)
Others: ISOC - I note that Don has also included the ISOC online courses. IEEE - There's a wealth of resources and courses, though these are very issues specific and we may need to go through with a fine-tooth comb if we are to include. Diplo - Learning from Diplo's capacity development program.
I think the idea of categorizing the training programs into reasonable groups is great, and, as in your example, it could be based on the mode of delivery (workshop/tutorial/online etc) and the type of content (technical track and a management/leadership track etc) - we should definitely work on this next. It will also help in the identification of gaps and opportunities, which is one of the main points of this exercise.
Meanwhile, could I check if there are any other inputs to add to this excel sheet list please? This is of course a live list and we can continue to add to this as and when we have sight of more courses. Thanks all again.
Regards, Kelvin
Kelvin WONG Head, Outreach & Public Responsibility, Asia Pacific Asia Pacific Hub, Singapore Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
Direct: +65 6808 6672 <tel:%2B65%206808%206672> www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org/> <http://www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org/> >
On 8/7/14 11:14 AM, "Don Hollander" <gm@aptld.org> wrote:
Dear Friends:
Durin the APILP session held this week in India we agreed that it would be a good idea to create an inventory of courses available.
I indicated that I had already started this exercise and have attached a copy of the spreadsheet.
It is far, far from complete - because in the end it just got too much like work for me. But, we will resurrect it soon.
One of the questions that I asked my members, but didn¹t really get a good response, was how to categorise the training programs so that people can more easily find courses for them.
Some easy options might be:
Tutorial: Technical: IPv6: Tutorial: Technical: DNSSEC Workshop: Management: Disaster Planning
Some some others are a bit harder.
So, that¹s where I got to.
You¹ll see that none of the training listed is APTLDs, because we don¹t have the depth to do our own.
Don
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Hi Don, Duncan, Hong and all, Thanks so much for your input on this. The attached document shows where we are at this inventory-building process. I’ve merged the information going around and included more description on the ICANN courses I.e. those on DNS and Network security, as well as the parts that Hong helped to add. If all agree, we could take out Tech day for now. I’ve also included the APILP Delhi session for completeness. As we expected, there seems to be some duplication in the programs, and the next step is to make sense of these courses and categorize them as Don suggested, and to identify some gaps/opportunities. Meanwhile, as I’ve mentioned, this is a live list that we can come back and update/change. So if there’s any suggestion on how best to categorize and move forward on this, it’ll be great. Thanks again. cc: Thanks Champika for providing the detailed description on courses related to network security. Regards, Kelvin Kelvin WONG Head, Outreach & Public Responsibility, Asia Pacific Asia Pacific Hub, Singapore Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +65 6808 6672 www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org> From: Don Hollander <gm@aptld.org> Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 at 4:21 PM To: Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com> Cc: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org>, "apilp_discuss@apilp.asia" <apilp_discuss@apilp.asia> Subject: Re: [Apilp_discuss] Inventory of Courses Thanks Hong: Can you provide more details of the content of the 2.5 day course? (Have a look at the sort of brief description that’s included in the Delta-Risk courses.) And Kelvin, thank you. I don’t see Tech Day as Training, but more as a wee conference within a conference because the content changes at every meeting. It would be useful to also get more details of the syllabus for the ICANN programs that you provided. Don On 9/09/2014, at 10:14 pm, Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I made a few additions (at the end). Please find attached.
Best,
Hong
Professor Dr. Hong Xue Director of Beijing Normal University Institute for Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Co-Director of UNCITRAL-BNU Joint Certificate Program on International E-Commerce Law http://www.iipl.org.cn/ 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> wrote:
Dear Don and all,
Thanks much Don, this is very useful start. I've gotten some help to populate the courses from the ICANN perspective too, and made some additions to this (thanks Champika!), as attached. (For now, I've not included the online courses in ICANN Learn that is very specific to ICANN processes and ICANN community. Others are programs that are currently work in progress that I hope to include later.)
Others: ISOC - I note that Don has also included the ISOC online courses. IEEE - There's a wealth of resources and courses, though these are very issues specific and we may need to go through with a fine-tooth comb if we are to include. Diplo - Learning from Diplo's capacity development program.
I think the idea of categorizing the training programs into reasonable groups is great, and, as in your example, it could be based on the mode of delivery (workshop/tutorial/online etc) and the type of content (technical track and a management/leadership track etc) - we should definitely work on this next. It will also help in the identification of gaps and opportunities, which is one of the main points of this exercise.
Meanwhile, could I check if there are any other inputs to add to this excel sheet list please? This is of course a live list and we can continue to add to this as and when we have sight of more courses. Thanks all again.
Regards, Kelvin
Kelvin WONG Head, Outreach & Public Responsibility, Asia Pacific Asia Pacific Hub, Singapore Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
Direct: +65 6808 6672 <tel:%2B65%206808%206672> www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org/> <http://www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org/> >
On 8/7/14 11:14 AM, "Don Hollander" <gm@aptld.org> wrote:
Dear Friends:
Durin the APILP session held this week in India we agreed that it would be a good idea to create an inventory of courses available.
I indicated that I had already started this exercise and have attached a copy of the spreadsheet.
It is far, far from complete - because in the end it just got too much like work for me. But, we will resurrect it soon.
One of the questions that I asked my members, but didn¹t really get a good response, was how to categorise the training programs so that people can more easily find courses for them.
Some easy options might be:
Tutorial: Technical: IPv6: Tutorial: Technical: DNSSEC Workshop: Management: Disaster Planning
Some some others are a bit harder.
So, that¹s where I got to.
You¹ll see that none of the training listed is APTLDs, because we don¹t have the depth to do our own.
Don
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Kelvin, Don, Hong and colleagues, Thanks again for working on this very helpful inventory. I'd like to note two APNIC developments of relevance: 1) In response to our latest membership survey (announced at APNIC38) and it's very clear message to focus more on training, we are developing plans to organize a regional Training Needs Assessment (TNAs). Those of you who are familiar with TNAs at a national or regional scale will know that they can be a challenge to implement, so we plan to keep ours as simple and focused as possible. At this (early) stage we are looking at Thailand and Vietnam as two countries we can start on, but would welcome more suggestions (knowing that we cannot do all 56 economies, just a representative sample). The focus would be on getting more detailed information on key questions including: · What technical skills are most lacking in the AP Internet community and what should organizations like APNIC focus their training on ? · What type of training delivers the best results ? On-line ? Workshops and labs ? Tutorials ? · How often does training need to be provided ? Once a year ? Every month ? Once only ? · Should training provide accreditation via examination based systems (for example) · Local language versus English ? · How much should training cost ? · What's the state of Internet technical training provided by the private sector (vendors and consultancies) ? Does it provide everything that's needed ? At reasonable cost ? What are the gaps ? The format for the TNA would include an on-line survey to APNIC members and the community and focus group interviews in each country to provide more depth and detail (plus more depending on the budget) As you can see, we are still in the development stage, so we would welcome input, collaboration and partnership from the group. 2) APNIC's new training manager Kevin Meynell (from JANET in the UK and replacing Champika), will be starting in the first week of November. I will introduce him to this process so he can contribute and engage. Thanks Duncan From: Kelvin Wong [mailto:kelvin.wong@icann.org] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 7:53 PM To: Don Hollander; Hong Xue; Duncan Macintosh Cc: apilp_discuss@apilp.asia Subject: Re: [Apilp_discuss] Inventory of Courses Hi Don, Duncan, Hong and all, Thanks so much for your input on this. The attached document shows where we are at this inventory-building process. I've merged the information going around and included more description on the ICANN courses I.e. those on DNS and Network security, as well as the parts that Hong helped to add. If all agree, we could take out Tech day for now. I've also included the APILP Delhi session for completeness. As we expected, there seems to be some duplication in the programs, and the next step is to make sense of these courses and categorize them as Don suggested, and to identify some gaps/opportunities. Meanwhile, as I've mentioned, this is a live list that we can come back and update/change. So if there's any suggestion on how best to categorize and move forward on this, it'll be great. Thanks again. cc: Thanks Champika for providing the detailed description on courses related to network security. Regards, Kelvin Kelvin WONG Head, Outreach & Public Responsibility, Asia Pacific Asia Pacific Hub, Singapore Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +65 6808 6672 www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org> From: Don Hollander <gm@aptld.org<mailto:gm@aptld.org>> Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 at 4:21 PM To: Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com<mailto:hongxueipr@gmail.com>> Cc: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org<mailto:kelvin.wong@icann.org>>, "apilp_discuss@apilp.asia<mailto:apilp_discuss@apilp.asia>" <apilp_discuss@apilp.asia<mailto:apilp_discuss@apilp.asia>> Subject: Re: [Apilp_discuss] Inventory of Courses Thanks Hong: Can you provide more details of the content of the 2.5 day course? (Have a look at the sort of brief description that's included in the Delta-Risk courses.) And Kelvin, thank you. I don't see Tech Day as Training, but more as a wee conference within a conference because the content changes at every meeting. It would be useful to also get more details of the syllabus for the ICANN programs that you provided. Don On 9/09/2014, at 10:14 pm, Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com<mailto:hongxueipr@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi, I made a few additions (at the end). Please find attached. Best, Hong Professor Dr. Hong Xue Director of Beijing Normal University Institute for Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Co-Director of UNCITRAL-BNU Joint Certificate Program on International E-Commerce Law http://www.iipl.org.cn/ 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org<mailto:kelvin.wong@icann.org>> wrote: Dear Don and all, Thanks much Don, this is very useful start. I've gotten some help to populate the courses from the ICANN perspective too, and made some additions to this (thanks Champika!), as attached. (For now, I've not included the online courses in ICANN Learn that is very specific to ICANN processes and ICANN community. Others are programs that are currently work in progress that I hope to include later.) Others: ISOC - I note that Don has also included the ISOC online courses. IEEE - There's a wealth of resources and courses, though these are very issues specific and we may need to go through with a fine-tooth comb if we are to include. Diplo - Learning from Diplo's capacity development program. I think the idea of categorizing the training programs into reasonable groups is great, and, as in your example, it could be based on the mode of delivery (workshop/tutorial/online etc) and the type of content (technical track and a management/leadership track etc) - we should definitely work on this next. It will also help in the identification of gaps and opportunities, which is one of the main points of this exercise. Meanwhile, could I check if there are any other inputs to add to this excel sheet list please? This is of course a live list and we can continue to add to this as and when we have sight of more courses. Thanks all again. Regards, Kelvin Kelvin WONG Head, Outreach & Public Responsibility, Asia Pacific Asia Pacific Hub, Singapore Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +65 6808 6672<tel:%2B65%206808%206672> www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org/> <http://www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org/>> On 8/7/14 11:14 AM, "Don Hollander" <gm@aptld.org<mailto:gm@aptld.org>> wrote:
Dear Friends:
Durin the APILP session held this week in India we agreed that it would be a good idea to create an inventory of courses available.
I indicated that I had already started this exercise and have attached a copy of the spreadsheet.
It is far, far from complete - because in the end it just got too much like work for me. But, we will resurrect it soon.
One of the questions that I asked my members, but didn¹t really get a good response, was how to categorise the training programs so that people can more easily find courses for them.
Some easy options might be:
Tutorial: Technical: IPv6: Tutorial: Technical: DNSSEC Workshop: Management: Disaster Planning
Some some others are a bit harder.
So, that¹s where I got to.
You¹ll see that none of the training listed is APTLDs, because we don¹t have the depth to do our own.
Don
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Duncan: Further to your note, I would hope that you would also include a Pacific Island community as well. I have a particular fondness for Samoa. It’s not teeny tiny, it’s had a focus on ICT development for more than decade, there are at least three separate physical international links, there are a surprisingly large number of ITC businesses, it has a University/Polytechnic, plus a branch of USP. I think Thailand and Vietnam are also good choices, particularly for the language diversity, large scale, and pretty good domestic and international connectivity. I also think it’s interesting that you’re introducing the idea of people paying for training. I really support this. In my experience, when people have some skin in the activity they get much, much more out of it. And, with respect to other trainers, don’t forget Polytechnics and Universities. APTLD will be happy to participate in this TNA in Thailand, Vietnam (and hopefully Samoa). I think that some of our needs extend beyond technical to include general management, planning for disasters, accounting issues, marketing and communications, partner engagement, general negotiation. I think that this topics will also be useful to APNIC members, but perhaps a slightly different audience to what you usually see. These issues may also be of interest to the Registrars and gRegistries of the ICANN community. And, of course, there are the public policy issues. So, well done. Please certainly keep APTLD appraised of progress. We remain, of course, happy to participate. Don On 25/09/2014, at 2:03 pm, Duncan Macintosh <duncan@apnic.net> wrote:
Kelvin, Don, Hong and colleagues, Thanks again for working on this very helpful inventory. I’d like to note two APNIC developments of relevance:
1) In response to our latest membership survey (announced at APNIC38) and it’s very clear message to focus more on training, we are developing plans to organize a regional Training Needs Assessment (TNAs). Those of you who are familiar with TNAs at a national or regional scale will know that they can be a challenge to implement, so we plan to keep ours as simple and focused as possible. At this (early) stage we are looking at Thailand and Vietnam as two countries we can start on, but would welcome more suggestions (knowing that we cannot do all 56 economies, just a representative sample). The focus would be on getting more detailed information on key questions including: · What technical skills are most lacking in the AP Internet community and what should organizations like APNIC focus their training on ? · What type of training delivers the best results ? On-line ? Workshops and labs ? Tutorials ? · How often does training need to be provided ? Once a year ? Every month ? Once only ? · Should training provide accreditation via examination based systems (for example) · Local language versus English ? · How much should training cost ? · What’s the state of Internet technical training provided by the private sector (vendors and consultancies) ? Does it provide everything that’s needed ? At reasonable cost ? What are the gaps ?
The format for the TNA would include an on-line survey to APNIC members and the community and focus group interviews in each country to provide more depth and detail (plus more depending on the budget)
As you can see, we are still in the development stage, so we would welcome input, collaboration and partnership from the group. 2) APNIC’s new training manager Kevin Meynell (from JANET in the UK and replacing Champika), will be starting in the first week of November. I will introduce him to this process so he can contribute and engage.
Thanks Duncan
From: Kelvin Wong [mailto:kelvin.wong@icann.org] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 7:53 PM To: Don Hollander; Hong Xue; Duncan Macintosh Cc: apilp_discuss@apilp.asia Subject: Re: [Apilp_discuss] Inventory of Courses
Hi Don, Duncan, Hong and all,
Thanks so much for your input on this. The attached document shows where we are at this inventory-building process.
I’ve merged the information going around and included more description on the ICANN courses I.e. those on DNS and Network security, as well as the parts that Hong helped to add. If all agree, we could take out Tech day for now. I’ve also included the APILP Delhi session for completeness.
As we expected, there seems to be some duplication in the programs, and the next step is to make sense of these courses and categorize them as Don suggested, and to identify some gaps/opportunities. Meanwhile, as I’ve mentioned, this is a live list that we can come back and update/change. So if there’s any suggestion on how best to categorize and move forward on this, it’ll be great.
Thanks again.
cc: Thanks Champika for providing the detailed description on courses related to network security.
Regards, Kelvin
Kelvin WONG Head, Outreach & Public Responsibility, Asia Pacific Asia Pacific Hub, Singapore Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
Direct: +65 6808 6672 www.icann.org
From: Don Hollander <gm@aptld.org> Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 at 4:21 PM To: Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com> Cc: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org>, "apilp_discuss@apilp.asia" <apilp_discuss@apilp.asia> Subject: Re: [Apilp_discuss] Inventory of Courses
Thanks Hong:
Can you provide more details of the content of the 2.5 day course? (Have a look at the sort of brief description that’s included in the Delta-Risk courses.)
And Kelvin, thank you. I don’t see Tech Day as Training, but more as a wee conference within a conference because the content changes at every meeting. It would be useful to also get more details of the syllabus for the ICANN programs that you provided.
Don
On 9/09/2014, at 10:14 pm, Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I made a few additions (at the end). Please find attached.
Best,
Hong
Professor Dr. Hong Xue Director of Beijing Normal University Institute for Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Co-Director of UNCITRAL-BNU Joint Certificate Program on International E-Commerce Law http://www.iipl.org.cn/ 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> wrote: Dear Don and all,
Thanks much Don, this is very useful start. I've gotten some help to populate the courses from the ICANN perspective too, and made some additions to this (thanks Champika!), as attached. (For now, I've not included the online courses in ICANN Learn that is very specific to ICANN processes and ICANN community. Others are programs that are currently work in progress that I hope to include later.)
Others: ISOC - I note that Don has also included the ISOC online courses. IEEE - There's a wealth of resources and courses, though these are very issues specific and we may need to go through with a fine-tooth comb if we are to include. Diplo - Learning from Diplo's capacity development program.
I think the idea of categorizing the training programs into reasonable groups is great, and, as in your example, it could be based on the mode of delivery (workshop/tutorial/online etc) and the type of content (technical track and a management/leadership track etc) - we should definitely work on this next. It will also help in the identification of gaps and opportunities, which is one of the main points of this exercise.
Meanwhile, could I check if there are any other inputs to add to this excel sheet list please? This is of course a live list and we can continue to add to this as and when we have sight of more courses. Thanks all again.
Regards, Kelvin
Kelvin WONG Head, Outreach & Public Responsibility, Asia Pacific Asia Pacific Hub, Singapore Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
Direct: +65 6808 6672 www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org>
On 8/7/14 11:14 AM, "Don Hollander" <gm@aptld.org> wrote:
Dear Friends:
Durin the APILP session held this week in India we agreed that it would be a good idea to create an inventory of courses available.
I indicated that I had already started this exercise and have attached a copy of the spreadsheet.
It is far, far from complete - because in the end it just got too much like work for me. But, we will resurrect it soon.
One of the questions that I asked my members, but didn¹t really get a good response, was how to categorise the training programs so that people can more easily find courses for them.
Some easy options might be:
Tutorial: Technical: IPv6: Tutorial: Technical: DNSSEC Workshop: Management: Disaster Planning
Some some others are a bit harder.
So, that¹s where I got to.
You¹ll see that none of the training listed is APTLDs, because we don¹t have the depth to do our own.
Don
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Hi Duncan, Don, This is great, thanks for the input. The TNAs should give a good idea of the requirements of the economies, and as you said, help focus our efforts and resources. We have networks in Indonesia that we can link up with partners to do this, so from ICANN, we’ll like to propose to include Indonesia. I’m checking to see if we want to include other Pacific economies, so that may come later. Regards, Kelvin Kelvin WONG Head, Outreach & Public Responsibility, Asia Pacific Asia Pacific Hub, Singapore Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +65 6808 6672 www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org> From: Don Hollander <gm@aptld.org> Date: Friday, October 3, 2014 at 7:28 AM To: Duncan Macintosh <duncan@apnic.net> Cc: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org>, Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com>, "apilp_discuss@apilp.asia" <apilp_discuss@apilp.asia> Subject: Re: [Apilp_discuss] Inventory of Courses Duncan: Further to your note, I would hope that you would also include a Pacific Island community as well. I have a particular fondness for Samoa. It’s not teeny tiny, it’s had a focus on ICT development for more than decade, there are at least three separate physical international links, there are a surprisingly large number of ITC businesses, it has a University/Polytechnic, plus a branch of USP. I think Thailand and Vietnam are also good choices, particularly for the language diversity, large scale, and pretty good domestic and international connectivity. I also think it’s interesting that you’re introducing the idea of people paying for training. I really support this. In my experience, when people have some skin in the activity they get much, much more out of it. And, with respect to other trainers, don’t forget Polytechnics and Universities. APTLD will be happy to participate in this TNA in Thailand, Vietnam (and hopefully Samoa). I think that some of our needs extend beyond technical to include general management, planning for disasters, accounting issues, marketing and communications, partner engagement, general negotiation. I think that this topics will also be useful to APNIC members, but perhaps a slightly different audience to what you usually see. These issues may also be of interest to the Registrars and gRegistries of the ICANN community. And, of course, there are the public policy issues. So, well done. Please certainly keep APTLD appraised of progress. We remain, of course, happy to participate. Don On 25/09/2014, at 2:03 pm, Duncan Macintosh <duncan@apnic.net> wrote:
Kelvin, Don, Hong and colleagues, Thanks again for working on this very helpful inventory. I’d like to note two APNIC developments of relevance:
1) In response to our latest membership survey (announced at APNIC38) and it’s very clear message to focus more on training, we are developing plans to organize a regional Training Needs Assessment (TNAs). Those of you who are familiar with TNAs at a national or regional scale will know that they can be a challenge to implement, so we plan to keep ours as simple and focused as possible. At this (early) stage we are looking at Thailand and Vietnam as two countries we can start on, but would welcome more suggestions (knowing that we cannot do all 56 economies, just a representative sample). The focus would be on getting more detailed information on key questions including: · What technical skills are most lacking in the AP Internet community and what should organizations like APNIC focus their training on ? · What type of training delivers the best results ? On-line ? Workshops and labs ? Tutorials ? · How often does training need to be provided ? Once a year ? Every month ? Once only ? · Should training provide accreditation via examination based systems (for example) · Local language versus English ? · How much should training cost ? · What’s the state of Internet technical training provided by the private sector (vendors and consultancies) ? Does it provide everything that’s needed ? At reasonable cost ? What are the gaps ?
The format for the TNA would include an on-line survey to APNIC members and the community and focus group interviews in each country to provide more depth and detail (plus more depending on the budget)
As you can see, we are still in the development stage, so we would welcome input, collaboration and partnership from the group. 2) APNIC’s new training manager Kevin Meynell (from JANET in the UK and replacing Champika), will be starting in the first week of November. I will introduce him to this process so he can contribute and engage.
Thanks Duncan
From: Kelvin Wong [mailto:kelvin.wong@icann.org] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 7:53 PM To: Don Hollander; Hong Xue; Duncan Macintosh Cc: apilp_discuss@apilp.asia Subject: Re: [Apilp_discuss] Inventory of Courses
Hi Don, Duncan, Hong and all,
Thanks so much for your input on this. The attached document shows where we are at this inventory-building process.
I’ve merged the information going around and included more description on the ICANN courses I.e. those on DNS and Network security, as well as the parts that Hong helped to add. If all agree, we could take out Tech day for now. I’ve also included the APILP Delhi session for completeness.
As we expected, there seems to be some duplication in the programs, and the next step is to make sense of these courses and categorize them as Don suggested, and to identify some gaps/opportunities. Meanwhile, as I’ve mentioned, this is a live list that we can come back and update/change. So if there’s any suggestion on how best to categorize and move forward on this, it’ll be great.
Thanks again.
cc: Thanks Champika for providing the detailed description on courses related to network security.
Regards, Kelvin
Kelvin WONG Head, Outreach & Public Responsibility, Asia Pacific Asia Pacific Hub, Singapore Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
Direct: +65 6808 6672 www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org/>
From: Don Hollander <gm@aptld.org> Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 at 4:21 PM To: Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com> Cc: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org>, "apilp_discuss@apilp.asia" <apilp_discuss@apilp.asia> Subject: Re: [Apilp_discuss] Inventory of Courses
Thanks Hong:
Can you provide more details of the content of the 2.5 day course? (Have a look at the sort of brief description that’s included in the Delta-Risk courses.)
And Kelvin, thank you. I don’t see Tech Day as Training, but more as a wee conference within a conference because the content changes at every meeting. It would be useful to also get more details of the syllabus for the ICANN programs that you provided.
Don
On 9/09/2014, at 10:14 pm, Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I made a few additions (at the end). Please find attached.
Best,
Hong
Professor Dr. Hong Xue Director of Beijing Normal University Institute for Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Co-Director of UNCITRAL-BNU Joint Certificate Program on International E-Commerce Law http://www.iipl.org.cn/ 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> wrote: Dear Don and all,
Thanks much Don, this is very useful start. I've gotten some help to populate the courses from the ICANN perspective too, and made some additions to this (thanks Champika!), as attached. (For now, I've not included the online courses in ICANN Learn that is very specific to ICANN processes and ICANN community. Others are programs that are currently work in progress that I hope to include later.)
Others: ISOC - I note that Don has also included the ISOC online courses. IEEE - There's a wealth of resources and courses, though these are very issues specific and we may need to go through with a fine-tooth comb if we are to include. Diplo - Learning from Diplo's capacity development program.
I think the idea of categorizing the training programs into reasonable groups is great, and, as in your example, it could be based on the mode of delivery (workshop/tutorial/online etc) and the type of content (technical track and a management/leadership track etc) - we should definitely work on this next. It will also help in the identification of gaps and opportunities, which is one of the main points of this exercise.
Meanwhile, could I check if there are any other inputs to add to this excel sheet list please? This is of course a live list and we can continue to add to this as and when we have sight of more courses. Thanks all again.
Regards, Kelvin
Kelvin WONG Head, Outreach & Public Responsibility, Asia Pacific Asia Pacific Hub, Singapore Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
Direct: +65 6808 6672 <tel:%2B65%206808%206672> www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org/> <http://www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org/> >
On 8/7/14 11:14 AM, "Don Hollander" <gm@aptld.org> wrote:
Dear Friends:
Durin the APILP session held this week in India we agreed that it would be a good idea to create an inventory of courses available.
I indicated that I had already started this exercise and have attached a copy of the spreadsheet.
It is far, far from complete - because in the end it just got too much like work for me. But, we will resurrect it soon.
One of the questions that I asked my members, but didn¹t really get a good response, was how to categorise the training programs so that people can more easily find courses for them.
Some easy options might be:
Tutorial: Technical: IPv6: Tutorial: Technical: DNSSEC Workshop: Management: Disaster Planning
Some some others are a bit harder.
So, that¹s where I got to.
You¹ll see that none of the training listed is APTLDs, because we don¹t have the depth to do our own.
Don
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Dear all, Thanks for all your work on this. What would be the best way to document gaps? A gap that is immediately obvious, I would say, is the absence of the importance of a rights-based approach to Internet governance in these courses, and what such an approach might entail. This might be addressed implicitly in some of the Diplo or ISOC work, but is not addressed explicitly (APC developed a curriculum on some rights, see http://www.apc.org/en/news/human-rights-and-internet-multimedia-training-kit, but in itself this does not constitute a course). I think on many of the issues related to the history of Internet governance, what might also be missing is the specific 'Asia-Pacific angle' (or that of its sub-regions) on the topic. The way people in the Pacific would, for example, approach the WSIS+10 Review is likely to be very different from how people in Europe would do so. For many of the more technical issues, such regional anchoring seems to interestingly (and luckily!) have been achieved already to a much greater extent. Thanks and best, Anja On 3 October 2014 16:14, Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> wrote:
Hi Duncan, Don,
This is great, thanks for the input.
The TNAs should give a good idea of the requirements of the economies, and as you said, help focus our efforts and resources. We have networks in Indonesia that we can link up with partners to do this, so from ICANN, we’ll like to propose to include Indonesia. I’m checking to see if we want to include other Pacific economies, so that may come later.
Regards, Kelvin
*Kelvin WONG* Head, Outreach & Public Responsibility, Asia Pacific Asia Pacific Hub, Singapore Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
Direct: +65 6808 6672 www.icann.org
From: Don Hollander <gm@aptld.org> Date: Friday, October 3, 2014 at 7:28 AM To: Duncan Macintosh <duncan@apnic.net> Cc: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org>, Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com>, "apilp_discuss@apilp.asia" <apilp_discuss@apilp.asia>
Subject: Re: [Apilp_discuss] Inventory of Courses
Duncan:
Further to your note, I would hope that you would also include a Pacific Island community as well. I have a particular fondness for Samoa. It’s not teeny tiny, it’s had a focus on ICT development for more than decade, there are at least three separate physical international links, there are a surprisingly large number of ITC businesses, it has a University/Polytechnic, plus a branch of USP.
I think Thailand and Vietnam are also good choices, particularly for the language diversity, large scale, and pretty good domestic and international connectivity.
I also think it’s interesting that you’re introducing the idea of people paying for training. I really support this. In my experience, when people have some skin in the activity they get much, much more out of it.
And, with respect to other trainers, don’t forget Polytechnics and Universities.
APTLD will be happy to participate in this TNA in Thailand, Vietnam (and hopefully Samoa). I think that some of our needs extend beyond technical to include general management, planning for disasters, accounting issues, marketing and communications, partner engagement, general negotiation. I think that this topics will also be useful to APNIC members, but perhaps a slightly different audience to what you usually see. These issues may also be of interest to the Registrars and gRegistries of the ICANN community. And, of course, there are the public policy issues.
So, well done. Please certainly keep APTLD appraised of progress. We remain, of course, happy to participate.
Don
On 25/09/2014, at 2:03 pm, Duncan Macintosh <duncan@apnic.net> wrote:
Kelvin, Don, Hong and colleagues, Thanks again for working on this very helpful inventory. I’d like to note two APNIC developments of relevance:
1) In response to our latest membership survey (announced at APNIC38) and it’s very clear message to focus more on training, we are developing plans to organize a regional Training Needs Assessment (TNAs). Those of you who are familiar with TNAs at a national or regional scale will know that they can be a challenge to implement, so we plan to keep ours as simple and focused as possible. At this (early) stage we are looking at Thailand and Vietnam as two countries we can start on, but would welcome more suggestions (knowing that we cannot do all 56 economies, just a representative sample). The focus would be on getting more detailed information on key questions including: · What technical skills are most lacking in the AP Internet community and what should organizations like APNIC focus their training on ? · What type of training delivers the best results ? On-line ? Workshops and labs ? Tutorials ? · How often does training need to be provided ? Once a year ? Every month ? Once only ? · Should training provide accreditation via examination based systems (for example) · Local language versus English ? · How much should training cost ? · What’s the state of Internet technical training provided by the private sector (vendors and consultancies) ? Does it provide everything that’s needed ? At reasonable cost ? What are the gaps ?
The format for the TNA would include an on-line survey to APNIC members and the community and focus group interviews in each country to provide more depth and detail (plus more depending on the budget)
As you can see, we are still in the development stage, so we would welcome input, collaboration and partnership from the group. 2) APNIC’s new training manager Kevin Meynell (from JANET in the UK and replacing Champika), will be starting in the first week of November. I will introduce him to this process so he can contribute and engage.
Thanks Duncan
*From:* Kelvin Wong [mailto:kelvin.wong@icann.org <kelvin.wong@icann.org>]
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 24, 2014 7:53 PM *To:* Don Hollander; Hong Xue; Duncan Macintosh *Cc:* apilp_discuss@apilp.asia *Subject:* Re: [Apilp_discuss] Inventory of Courses
Hi Don, Duncan, Hong and all,
Thanks so much for your input on this. The attached document shows where we are at this inventory-building process.
I’ve merged the information going around and included more description on the ICANN courses I.e. those on DNS and Network security, as well as the parts that Hong helped to add. If all agree, we could take out Tech day for now. I’ve also included the APILP Delhi session for completeness.
As we expected, there seems to be some duplication in the programs, and the next step is to make sense of these courses and categorize them as Don suggested, and to identify some gaps/opportunities. Meanwhile, as I’ve mentioned, this is a live list that we can come back and update/change. So if there’s any suggestion on how best to categorize and move forward on this, it’ll be great.
Thanks again.
cc: Thanks Champika for providing the detailed description on courses related to network security.
Regards, Kelvin
*Kelvin WONG* Head, Outreach & Public Responsibility, Asia Pacific Asia Pacific Hub, Singapore Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
Direct: +65 6808 6672 www.icann.org
*From: *Don Hollander <gm@aptld.org> *Date: *Wednesday, September 10, 2014 at 4:21 PM *To: *Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com> *Cc: *Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org>, "apilp_discuss@apilp.asia" < apilp_discuss@apilp.asia> *Subject: *Re: [Apilp_discuss] Inventory of Courses
Thanks Hong:
Can you provide more details of the content of the 2.5 day course? (Have a look at the sort of brief description that’s included in the Delta-Risk courses.)
And Kelvin, thank you. I don’t see Tech Day as Training, but more as a wee conference within a conference because the content changes at every meeting. It would be useful to also get more details of the syllabus for the ICANN programs that you provided.
Don
On 9/09/2014, at 10:14 pm, Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I made a few additions (at the end). Please find attached.
Best,
Hong
Professor Dr. Hong Xue Director of Beijing Normal University Institute for Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Co-Director of UNCITRAL-BNU Joint Certificate Program on International E-Commerce Law http://www.iipl.org.cn/ 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> wrote: Dear Don and all,
Thanks much Don, this is very useful start. I've gotten some help to populate the courses from the ICANN perspective too, and made some additions to this (thanks Champika!), as attached. (For now, I've not included the online courses in ICANN Learn that is very specific to ICANN processes and ICANN community. Others are programs that are currently work in progress that I hope to include later.)
Others: ISOC - I note that Don has also included the ISOC online courses. IEEE - There's a wealth of resources and courses, though these are very issues specific and we may need to go through with a fine-tooth comb if we are to include. Diplo - Learning from Diplo's capacity development program.
I think the idea of categorizing the training programs into reasonable groups is great, and, as in your example, it could be based on the mode of delivery (workshop/tutorial/online etc) and the type of content (technical track and a management/leadership track etc) - we should definitely work on this next. It will also help in the identification of gaps and opportunities, which is one of the main points of this exercise.
Meanwhile, could I check if there are any other inputs to add to this excel sheet list please? This is of course a live list and we can continue to add to this as and when we have sight of more courses. Thanks all again.
Regards, Kelvin
Kelvin WONG Head, Outreach & Public Responsibility, Asia Pacific Asia Pacific Hub, Singapore Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
Direct: +65 6808 6672 www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org>
On 8/7/14 11:14 AM, "Don Hollander" <gm@aptld.org> wrote:
Dear Friends:
Durin the APILP session held this week in India we agreed that it would be a good idea to create an inventory of courses available.
I indicated that I had already started this exercise and have attached a copy of the spreadsheet.
It is far, far from complete - because in the end it just got too much like work for me. But, we will resurrect it soon.
One of the questions that I asked my members, but didn¹t really get a good response, was how to categorise the training programs so that people can more easily find courses for them.
Some easy options might be:
Tutorial: Technical: IPv6: Tutorial: Technical: DNSSEC Workshop: Management: Disaster Planning
Some some others are a bit harder.
So, that¹s where I got to.
You¹ll see that none of the training listed is APTLDs, because we don¹t have the depth to do our own.
Don
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Dear all, I wanted to bring together what Anja mentioned in a different email to this track, and also since there could be some new members in the last few months. I think there are a few discussions that we were having: 1. Documenting of gaps from the course inventory that some of us have put together. These gaps could be specific areas/topics or angles/perspective. These can then be taken into account in syllabus building. 2. Identification of possible platforms for a future run of APILP, and the various considerations For (2), I think we now have a few possible platforms that we can start considering as a possible platform for 2nd APILP. Please feel free to add:
i. ICANN52, Singapore, 8-12 Feb 2015 ii. APRICOT 2015, Fukuoka, 24 Feb-6 March 2015 Iii. RightsCon 2015, Manila, 24-25 March 2015 Iv. APrIGF 2015, Macau, 20 Jun-3 July 2015
On a related note, also wondering if we see value for APILP members to come for a face to face meeting at the sidelines of ICANN52 in Singapore, if many of us will be here. This is similar to what we had in ICANN49, also in Singapore, where we discussed the need for a ToR for APILP, etc. Thanks. Regards, Kelvin Kelvin WONG (Secretariat for APILP) Head, Outreach & Public Responsibility, Asia Pacific Asia Pacific Hub, Singapore Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +65 6808 6672 www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org> From: Anja Kovacs <anja@internetdemocracy.in> Date: Monday, October 13, 2014 at 11:40 PM To: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> Cc: Don Hollander <gm@aptld.org>, Duncan Macintosh <duncan@apnic.net>, "apilp_discuss@apilp.asia" <apilp_discuss@apilp.asia> Subject: Re: [Apilp_discuss] Inventory of Courses Dear all, Thanks for all your work on this. What would be the best way to document gaps? A gap that is immediately obvious, I would say, is the absence of the importance of a rights-based approach to Internet governance in these courses, and what such an approach might entail. This might be addressed implicitly in some of the Diplo or ISOC work, but is not addressed explicitly (APC developed a curriculum on some rights, see http://www.apc.org/en/news/human-rights-and-internet-multimedia-training-kit , but in itself this does not constitute a course). I think on many of the issues related to the history of Internet governance, what might also be missing is the specific 'Asia-Pacific angle' (or that of its sub-regions) on the topic. The way people in the Pacific would, for example, approach the WSIS+10 Review is likely to be very different from how people in Europe would do so. For many of the more technical issues, such regional anchoring seems to interestingly (and luckily!) have been achieved already to a much greater extent. Thanks and best, Anja On 3 October 2014 16:14, Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> wrote:
Hi Duncan, Don,
This is great, thanks for the input.
The TNAs should give a good idea of the requirements of the economies, and as you said, help focus our efforts and resources. We have networks in Indonesia that we can link up with partners to do this, so from ICANN, we’ll like to propose to include Indonesia. I’m checking to see if we want to include other Pacific economies, so that may come later.
Regards, Kelvin
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From: Don Hollander <gm@aptld.org> Date: Friday, October 3, 2014 at 7:28 AM To: Duncan Macintosh <duncan@apnic.net> Cc: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org>, Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com>, "apilp_discuss@apilp.asia" <apilp_discuss@apilp.asia>
Subject: Re: [Apilp_discuss] Inventory of Courses
Duncan:
Further to your note, I would hope that you would also include a Pacific Island community as well. I have a particular fondness for Samoa. It’s not teeny tiny, it’s had a focus on ICT development for more than decade, there are at least three separate physical international links, there are a surprisingly large number of ITC businesses, it has a University/Polytechnic, plus a branch of USP.
I think Thailand and Vietnam are also good choices, particularly for the language diversity, large scale, and pretty good domestic and international connectivity.
I also think it’s interesting that you’re introducing the idea of people paying for training. I really support this. In my experience, when people have some skin in the activity they get much, much more out of it.
And, with respect to other trainers, don’t forget Polytechnics and Universities.
APTLD will be happy to participate in this TNA in Thailand, Vietnam (and hopefully Samoa). I think that some of our needs extend beyond technical to include general management, planning for disasters, accounting issues, marketing and communications, partner engagement, general negotiation. I think that this topics will also be useful to APNIC members, but perhaps a slightly different audience to what you usually see. These issues may also be of interest to the Registrars and gRegistries of the ICANN community. And, of course, there are the public policy issues.
So, well done. Please certainly keep APTLD appraised of progress. We remain, of course, happy to participate.
Don
On 25/09/2014, at 2:03 pm, Duncan Macintosh <duncan@apnic.net> wrote:
Kelvin, Don, Hong and colleagues, Thanks again for working on this very helpful inventory. I’d like to note two APNIC developments of relevance:
1) In response to our latest membership survey (announced at APNIC38) and it’s very clear message to focus more on training, we are developing plans to organize a regional Training Needs Assessment (TNAs). Those of you who are familiar with TNAs at a national or regional scale will know that they can be a challenge to implement, so we plan to keep ours as simple and focused as possible. At this (early) stage we are looking at Thailand and Vietnam as two countries we can start on, but would welcome more suggestions (knowing that we cannot do all 56 economies, just a representative sample). The focus would be on getting more detailed information on key questions including: · What technical skills are most lacking in the AP Internet community and what should organizations like APNIC focus their training on ? · What type of training delivers the best results ? On-line ? Workshops and labs ? Tutorials ? · How often does training need to be provided ? Once a year ? Every month ? Once only ? · Should training provide accreditation via examination based systems (for example) · Local language versus English ? · How much should training cost ? · What’s the state of Internet technical training provided by the private sector (vendors and consultancies) ? Does it provide everything that’s needed ? At reasonable cost ? What are the gaps ?
The format for the TNA would include an on-line survey to APNIC members and the community and focus group interviews in each country to provide more depth and detail (plus more depending on the budget)
As you can see, we are still in the development stage, so we would welcome input, collaboration and partnership from the group. 2) APNIC’s new training manager Kevin Meynell (from JANET in the UK and replacing Champika), will be starting in the first week of November. I will introduce him to this process so he can contribute and engage.
Thanks Duncan
From: Kelvin Wong [mailto:kelvin.wong@icann.org] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 7:53 PM To: Don Hollander; Hong Xue; Duncan Macintosh Cc: apilp_discuss@apilp.asia Subject: Re: [Apilp_discuss] Inventory of Courses
Hi Don, Duncan, Hong and all,
Thanks so much for your input on this. The attached document shows where we are at this inventory-building process.
I’ve merged the information going around and included more description on the ICANN courses I.e. those on DNS and Network security, as well as the parts that Hong helped to add. If all agree, we could take out Tech day for now. I’ve also included the APILP Delhi session for completeness.
As we expected, there seems to be some duplication in the programs, and the next step is to make sense of these courses and categorize them as Don suggested, and to identify some gaps/opportunities. Meanwhile, as I’ve mentioned, this is a live list that we can come back and update/change. So if there’s any suggestion on how best to categorize and move forward on this, it’ll be great.
Thanks again.
cc: Thanks Champika for providing the detailed description on courses related to network security.
Regards, Kelvin
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Direct: +65 6808 6672 www.icann.org <http://www.icann.org/>
From: Don Hollander <gm@aptld.org> Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 at 4:21 PM To: Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com> Cc: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org>, "apilp_discuss@apilp.asia" <apilp_discuss@apilp.asia> Subject: Re: [Apilp_discuss] Inventory of Courses
Thanks Hong:
Can you provide more details of the content of the 2.5 day course? (Have a look at the sort of brief description that’s included in the Delta-Risk courses.)
And Kelvin, thank you. I don’t see Tech Day as Training, but more as a wee conference within a conference because the content changes at every meeting. It would be useful to also get more details of the syllabus for the ICANN programs that you provided.
Don
On 9/09/2014, at 10:14 pm, Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, I made a few additions (at the end). Please find attached.
Best,
Hong
Professor Dr. Hong Xue Director of Beijing Normal University Institute for Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Co-Director of UNCITRAL-BNU Joint Certificate Program on International E-Commerce Law http://www.iipl.org.cn/ 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> wrote: Dear Don and all,
Thanks much Don, this is very useful start. I've gotten some help to populate the courses from the ICANN perspective too, and made some additions to this (thanks Champika!), as attached. (For now, I've not included the online courses in ICANN Learn that is very specific to ICANN processes and ICANN community. Others are programs that are currently work in progress that I hope to include later.)
Others: ISOC - I note that Don has also included the ISOC online courses. IEEE - There's a wealth of resources and courses, though these are very issues specific and we may need to go through with a fine-tooth comb if we are to include. Diplo - Learning from Diplo's capacity development program.
I think the idea of categorizing the training programs into reasonable groups is great, and, as in your example, it could be based on the mode of delivery (workshop/tutorial/online etc) and the type of content (technical track and a management/leadership track etc) - we should definitely work on this next. It will also help in the identification of gaps and opportunities, which is one of the main points of this exercise.
Meanwhile, could I check if there are any other inputs to add to this excel sheet list please? This is of course a live list and we can continue to add to this as and when we have sight of more courses. Thanks all again.
Regards, Kelvin
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On 8/7/14 11:14 AM, "Don Hollander" <gm@aptld.org> wrote:
Dear Friends:
Durin the APILP session held this week in India we agreed that it would be a good idea to create an inventory of courses available.
I indicated that I had already started this exercise and have attached a copy of the spreadsheet.
It is far, far from complete - because in the end it just got too much like work for me. But, we will resurrect it soon.
One of the questions that I asked my members, but didn¹t really get a good response, was how to categorise the training programs so that people can more easily find courses for them.
Some easy options might be:
Tutorial: Technical: IPv6: Tutorial: Technical: DNSSEC Workshop: Management: Disaster Planning
Some some others are a bit harder.
So, that¹s where I got to.
You¹ll see that none of the training listed is APTLDs, because we don¹t have the depth to do our own.
Don
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Hello Kelvin, Thanks for the inventory document. Its very useful. We could include one additional column to capture "Target Audience" for each of these courses and this might help categorize them? Regards Sunny On 24/09/2014 7:52 PM, Kelvin Wong wrote:
Hi Don, Duncan, Hong and all,
Thanks so much for your input on this. The attached document shows where we are at this inventory-building process.
I’ve merged the information going around and included more description on the ICANN courses I.e. those on DNS and Network security, as well as the parts that Hong helped to add. If all agree, we could take out Tech day for now. I’ve also included the APILP Delhi session for completeness.
As we expected, there seems to be some duplication in the programs, and the next step is to make sense of these courses and categorize them as Don suggested, and to identify some gaps/opportunities. Meanwhile, as I’ve mentioned, this is a live list that we can come back and update/change. So if there’s any suggestion on how best to categorize and move forward on this, it’ll be great.
Thanks again.
cc: Thanks Champika for providing the detailed description on courses related to network security.
Regards, Kelvin
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From: Don Hollander <gm@aptld.org <mailto:gm@aptld.org>> Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 at 4:21 PM To: Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com <mailto:hongxueipr@gmail.com>> Cc: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org <mailto:kelvin.wong@icann.org>>, "apilp_discuss@apilp.asia <mailto:apilp_discuss@apilp.asia>" <apilp_discuss@apilp.asia <mailto:apilp_discuss@apilp.asia>> Subject: Re: [Apilp_discuss] Inventory of Courses
Thanks Hong:
Can you provide more details of the content of the 2.5 day course? (Have a look at the sort of brief description that’s included in the Delta-Risk courses.)
And Kelvin, thank you. I don’t see Tech Day as Training, but more as a wee conference within a conference because the content changes at every meeting. It would be useful to also get more details of the syllabus for the ICANN programs that you provided.
Don
On 9/09/2014, at 10:14 pm, Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com <mailto:hongxueipr@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi, I made a few additions (at the end). Please find attached.
Best,
Hong
Professor Dr. Hong Xue Director of Beijing Normal University Institute for Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Co-Director of UNCITRAL-BNU Joint Certificate Program on International E-Commerce Law http://www.iipl.org.cn/ 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org <mailto:kelvin.wong@icann.org>> wrote:
Dear Don and all,
Thanks much Don, this is very useful start. I've gotten some help to populate the courses from the ICANN perspective too, and made some additions to this (thanks Champika!), as attached. (For now, I've not included the online courses in ICANN Learn that is very specific to ICANN processes and ICANN community. Others are programs that are currently work in progress that I hope to include later.)
Others: ISOC - I note that Don has also included the ISOC online courses. IEEE - There's a wealth of resources and courses, though these are very issues specific and we may need to go through with a fine-tooth comb if we are to include. Diplo - Learning from Diplo's capacity development program.
I think the idea of categorizing the training programs into reasonable groups is great, and, as in your example, it could be based on the mode of delivery (workshop/tutorial/online etc) and the type of content (technical track and a management/leadership track etc) - we should definitely work on this next. It will also help in the identification of gaps and opportunities, which is one of the main points of this exercise.
Meanwhile, could I check if there are any other inputs to add to this excel sheet list please? This is of course a live list and we can continue to add to this as and when we have sight of more courses. Thanks all again.
Regards, Kelvin
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On 8/7/14 11:14 AM, "Don Hollander" <gm@aptld.org <mailto:gm@aptld.org>> wrote:
>Dear Friends: > >Durin the APILP session held this week in India we agreed that it would >be a good idea to create an inventory of courses available. > >I indicated that I had already started this exercise and have attached a >copy of the spreadsheet. > >It is far, far from complete - because in the end it just got too much >like work for me. But, we will resurrect it soon. > >One of the questions that I asked my members, but didn��t really get a >good response, was how to categorise the training programs so that people >can more easily find courses for them. > >Some easy options might be: > >Tutorial: Technical: IPv6: >Tutorial: Technical: DNSSEC >Workshop: Management: Disaster Planning > >Some some others are a bit harder. > >So, that��s where I got to. > >You��ll see that none of the training listed is APTLDs, because we don��t >have the depth to do our own. > >Don
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Anja Kovacs -
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Don Hollander -
Duncan Macintosh -
Hong Xue -
Kelvin Wong -
Srinivas Chendi (APNIC)