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status of JPRS
by James M Galvin 14 Feb '11

14 Feb '11

Edmon, What is the status of your invitation to JPRS? Please see my previous email. Are we competing for a representative? Sato-san is telling me he does not want to cover both events if we are. Since you are in the same time zone can you speak with him (or others at JPRS) and see if you can get them to cover both of out events? Thanks, Jim

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Fwd: FW: [DNSSEC-OC] 21 February DNSSEC Summit - the panel
by Yannis Li 04 Feb '11

04 Feb '11

Dear all, Sorry for my late reply since there is some technical problem I couldn't receive emails from the list. Please note that the coffee break is 10:30am-11:00am (and 3:30pm-4:00pm) and the lunch break is 12:30pm-2:00pm. Thank you very much and Happy New Year. Best Regards, Yannis On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 1:06 AM, Kelvin Truong <kelvin(a)registry.asia> wrote: > Forwarded... - Kelvin > > -----Original Message----- > From: dnssec_oc-bounces(a)dotasia.org [mailto:dnssec_oc-bounces@dotasia.org] > On Behalf Of James M Galvin > Sent: February-04-11 5:32 AM > To: Edmon Chung; dnssec_sc(a)dnssec.asia > Subject: Re: [DNSSEC-OC] [DNSSEC-SC] 21 February DNSSEC Summit - the panel > > Response inline. > > > -- On February 4, 2011 4:31:59 AM +0800 Edmon Chung > <edmon(a)registry.asia> wrote regarding RE: [DNSSEC-OC] [DNSSEC-SC] 21 > February DNSSEC Summit - the panel -- > > > Responses below > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: dnssec_oc-bounces(a)dotasia.org > > > [mailto:dnssec_oc-bounces@dotasia.org] On Behalf Of James M Galvin > > > Sent: Friday, February 4, 2011 12:21 AM > > > To: dnssec_sc(a)dnssec.asia > > > Subject: [DNSSEC-OC] [DNSSEC-SC] 21 February DNSSEC Summit - the > > > panel > > > > > ACTION to Yannis: Please tell us when the morning coffee break is > > > actually schedules on Monday. With that information we can finalize > > > the overall time schedule. We have 2 1/2 hours. I'm modifying my > > > previous proposal to the following: > > We really need this question answered. Is Yannis on this mailing list? > Can we get an answer the question? > > > > > ACTION to Edmon: This is a .ASIA event so someone from .ASIA should > > > open this event, presumably you. Will it be you or do you want to > > > arrange for someone else? > > > > It would be me. > > Great, thanks. > > > > > ACTION to Edmon: As moderator I could summarize and close but it > > > would also be good for .ASIA to close. How do you handle this? > > > > Maybe have ISOC HK close. That would be Charles Mok. > > Also, we would like to invite a government official to have opening > > remarks as well. > > Good suggestion. I know Charles although you may have better access to > him. I'll make sure to leave a 10 minute slot for a Government > official. I'm assuming you'll take care of this invitation. > > > > > That leaves us with panelists. > > > > > > My starting list is: > > > > > > .ASIA needs to be represented - will this be you Edmon? > > > .ORG should be represented - Lance Wolak > > > > I bumped into Lance here at Domainfest and he said perhaps he will > > not be able to be in HK (Lance, you should be on this list as > > well?...) > > Lance, if you can't make it can someone else from PIR be present? > PIR/ORG is a leader in DNSSEC deployment. It would be unfortunate if > you couldn't be represented. > > > > > Suzanne Woolf - from ISC she represents Bind, a root server > > > operator, she's a member of SSAC and RSAC, she's RSAC liaison to > > > the ICANN Board, she's active in the IETF > > > > > > What I would like to do at this point is identify DNSSEC folks from > > > the region. This includes: > > > > > > Japan > > > > I can help with inviting someone from JPRS. > > I know the folks at JPRS, too. > > > > > Malaysia > > > India > > > > Please suggest. > > I don't know these folks off hand but I know I can figure it out. If > you agree they are a good choice I'll take care of this. > > > > Also, Thailand?... I think they signed their zone as well? > > I don't recall that they are signed but I'll check. If they are then > yes, they should be invited. > > > > > I would also like to suggest we include one or two of the .ASIA > > > Friends and Family participants. > > > > That would be Afilias :-D > > > > > > > ACTION to everyone: Is this a reasonable set of panelists? > > > > > > ACTION to Edmon: I'll need some suggestions from you for regional > > > panelists. > > > > I can ask APCERT as well. > > Beyond that am not sure who else... wonder if APNIC is relevant... > > I don't show APCERT has having a signed domain. Unless they have > announced plans to do so I don't think they are appropriate for the > panel. Same for APNIC. This panel is about evangelizing actual DNSSEC > experience. Do you know if they have a relevant story to tell? > > > Thanks, > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > Dnssec_sc mailing list > Dnssec_sc(a)mail01.dotasia.org > https://mailman.dotasia.org/mailman/listinfo/dnssec_sc > _______________________________________________ > Dnssec_oc mailing list > Dnssec_oc(a)mail01.dotasia.org > https://mailman.dotasia.org/mailman/listinfo/dnssec_oc > > -- Best Regards Yannis Li Ka Yin Bachelor in Marketing and Management Hong Kong University of Science and Technology E-mail: yannisli.aiesec(a)gmail.com Mobile: (852) 61334003 -- Best Regards Yannis Li Ka Yin Bachelor in Marketing and Management Hong Kong University of Science and Technology E-mail: yannisli.aiesec(a)gmail.com Mobile: (852) 61334003

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21 February DNSSEC Summit - the panel
by James M Galvin 03 Feb '11

03 Feb '11

Except for Edmon there have not been any comments on my proposal for the Monday AM Summit. I am still interested in any comments or suggestions folks have but I will continue to move forward. ACTION to Yannis: Please tell us when the morning coffee break is actually schedules on Monday. With that information we can finalize the overall time schedule. We have 2 1/2 hours. I'm modifying my previous proposal to the following: 10-20 minutes opening remarks, including Vint Cerf 30-60 minutes of position statements 30 minute break 45-75 minutes of interactive discussion 5-10 minutes of closing remarks ACTION to Edmon: How much time did you want to allow for Vint to speak? ACTION to Edmon: This is a .ASIA event so someone from .ASIA should open this event, presumably you. Will it be you or do you want to arrange for someone else? ACTION to Edmon: As moderator I could summarize and close but it would also be good for .ASIA to close. How do you handle this? I have proposed two related themes for this summit: some lessons learned in the form of why "I" did it and what it took to get it done, and a look at the future of the value "I" expect to get from it. We will then take questions from the audience. I suggest collecting written questions during the break. I suggest we allow questions to come written in Chinese (is this sensible) and thus we'll need someone available to translate questions. As moderator, I will ask all questions and keep the discussion moving. My current plan is not to take questions from the floor in real-time, although we can continue to allow written questions to be brought to the front for consideration. This suggestions I'll need a person available to help manage the contact. That leaves us with panelists. My starting list is: .ASIA needs to be represented - will this be you Edmon? .ORG should be represented - Lance Wolak Suzanne Woolf - from ISC she represents Bind, a root server operator, she's a member of SSAC and RSAC, she's RSAC liaison to the ICANN Board, she's active in the IETF What I would like to do at this point is identify DNSSEC folks from the region. This includes: Japan Malaysia India I would also like to suggest we include one or two of the .ASIA Friends and Family participants. ACTION to everyone: Is this a reasonable set of panelists? ACTION to Edmon: I'll need some suggestions from you for regional panelists. That's it for now. Jim

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progressing an agenda for Monday, 21 February
by James M Galvin 02 Feb '11

02 Feb '11

I'm sorry for the length of this message but we're a bit tardy in getting this started so I wanted to include a complete proposal for discussion. There are actually 3 related meetings to consider. We have the summit on Monday morning, a press event on Monday afternoon, and a workshop on Wednesday afternoon. We also need to keep in mind that we'd like to replicate this format around Asia, i.e., ideally this event is a kick-off of events to come. Edmon proposed the following high-level description of two of the events. 1. DNSSEC.Asia Summit -- high-level conference style discussion. Vint Cerf has already agreed to be present. 9:30am-12pm. 2. DNSSEC.Asia Workshop -- designed for ISP and hosting provider engineers. 2-5pm, classroom setting, 25 or 50 people. Somewhere during these events we should include a real-time demonstration of how DNSSEC can prevent a hijack of access to a web site. Edmon had proposed the press event. I think we should plan to do this at both the press event and the workshop. With that as background, let me quickly offer a few suggestions for the workshop and the press event and then focus on the summit. I suggest the workshop have a "how to" theme. I think there are 3-5 bullets of essential functionality that several different kinds of players must deploy for the full benefit of DNSSEC to be realized by everyone. So, in addition to ISPs and hosting providers, I think we should include registrars and a few significant organizations that we want to be the first to sign their domains. (How about the Friends and Family participants?) Someone should also speak on behalf of the .ASIA registry. We start this meeting with a real-time demo of a hijack primarily for the effect. There are several folks who could probably be engaged to make this meeting happen, individually or collectively: Russ Mundy, Simon McCalla, and Markus Travaille. My only comment about the press event is to include the real-time demo of the hijack. I think this will help to crystallize in their minds the importance of DNSSEC. We need to make sure the demo is not technically focused. We have to ensure it is focuses on the user experience from the user perspective. I would expect that Edmon will take responsibility for organizing the press event. Moving on to the summit, I like Edmon's suggestion for a conference style discussion and I would propose the following format. We setup a number of panelists and use the following format: 60-90 minutes of presentation/position statements 30 minute break 60-90 minutes of questions and answers Since we have Vint I would suggest that we ask if he would be willing to moderate the discussion. He can start with a "keynote" and then progress through each of the panelists. During the break we can have people submit questions on paper, which Vint can then use to keep the rest of the discussion going. We can continue to take questions during the discussion, on paper. With that as a format we need a theme in order to choose panelists. I suggest that the intended audience be decision makers, from managers up through executives. The technical folks are welcome but they should be directed to the workshop on Wednesday. I suggest two related themes: some lessons learned in the form of why I did it and what it took to get it done, and a look at the future of the value I expect to get from it. For panelists I suggest we reach out to the friends and family participants in .ASIA, plus any other significant organization we can find that is planning to do something soon, if not already. Of course, .ASIA, Afilias, and .ORG/PIR could be invited to speak also. That should be enough to get us started. Comments and suggestions are welcome! Thanks, Jim

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Re: [DNSSEC-SC] [DNSSEC-ASIA] RE: [APRICOT-APAN-DNSSEC] RE: DNSSEC @ APRICOT-APAN 2011
by James M Galvin 13 Jan '11

13 Jan '11

Lance Wolak will join our steering committee and is willing to join our advisory if that's okay. His email address is: Lance Wolak <LWolak(a)pir.org> You can just add him to the list since I'm pretty sure he'll know what's going on. I'll send him a separate note on the two lists if you want him on the ac. He'll be at APRICOT so having him as part of the ac would be a good idea. I had talked to him about the steering committee but not the ac. Jim -- On January 12, 2011 2:43:54 PM +0800 Edmon Chung <edmon(a)registry.asia> wrote regarding [DNSSEC-ASIA] RE: [APRICOT-APAN-DNSSEC] RE: DNSSEC @ APRICOT-APAN 2011 -- > Hi Jim, > Any update? > Edmon > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Edmon Chung [mailto:edmon@registry.asia] > > Sent: Friday, December 31, 2010 9:07 AM > > To: 'sc(a)dnssec.asia' > > Subject: RE: [APRICOT-APAN-DNSSEC] RE: DNSSEC @ APRICOT-APAN 2011 > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: James M Galvin [mailto:jgalvin@afilias.info] > > > Sent: Friday, December 31, 2010 7:42 AM > > > To: Edmon Chung; sc(a)dnssec.asia > > > Subject: Re: [APRICOT-APAN-DNSSEC] RE: DNSSEC @ APRICOT-APAN 2011 > > > > > > > > > > > > -- On December 31, 2010 5:03:56 AM +0800 Edmon Chung > > > <edmon(a)registry.asia> wrote regarding [APRICOT-APAN-DNSSEC] RE: > > DNSSEC > > > @ APRICOT-APAN 2011 -- > > > > > > > Wonder if we have any update from the action items: > > > > > > > > - inviting PIR -- AFILIAS > > > > > > > > Any update? > > > > > > I have not taken any action with respect to this but I will do so > > > now. > > > > > > > ok > > > > > > > > > - inviting Steve Crocker > > > > > > > > Discussed with Steve briefly in Cartagena, and tried to connect > > > > with him via email. Ram/Jim, perhaps you can help get his > > > > attention?... > > > > > > Steve will not be attending. However, we should invite Steve to > > > participate in the steering committee for the future programs. > > > > > > > Got his response as well. He will join steering committee. > > > > > > > > > - inviting ISC (suzanne for the workshop) -- AFILIAS > > > > > > > > Any update? > > > > > > Was this action mine? In any case I will call and ask now. > > > > > > > ok > > > > > > > > > Also, should we try to invite others?... > > > > > > I don't have any immediate people suggestions but I think we > > > should begin to propose specific topics for the agenda. This > > > will help to drive who we might invite. > > > > Yes. If you can put a strawman together that would be great. > > > > > > > > Are we settled on the idea of a Summit in the morning and a > > > Workshop in the afternoon? I like it. > > > > Workshop should be Wednesday (Feb 23) afternoon. > > > > > > > > So we're looking for Vint to headline the summit. If the > > > audience is expected to be more on the management/executive side > > > then the program should focus on the why and the benefit of > > > DNSSEC. > > > > It should be a mixture of mgt and engineers. > > > > > > > > Do we want the workshop to be hands on or just a focus on > > > technical presentations? For presentations we might consider a > > > real-time demonstration of a "hijacking", which can be very > > > compelling. We should then have presentations on lessons learned > > > and questions to consider as part of implementing. > > > > It can be both. APRICOT attracts a lot of hands on engineers. > > > > Yes, I think real-time demo of hijacking would be great. > > Would Dan be a good person to invite? > > > > > > > > > > Are there other ideas? > > > > > > > > > Besides scare tactics.. anything towards benefit and > > opportunities?... > > > > > > > > Edmon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Edmon Chung [mailto:edmon@registry.asia] > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2010 12:51 AM > > > > To: 'Charles Mok (ISOC-HK)'; 'Elvis Lam' > > > > Cc: 'rlaplante(a)afilias.info'; 'hread(a)afilias.info'; 'Ching > > > > Chiao'; 'Ka Ping Wong'; 'Ram Mohan'; 'James M Galvin'; 'Kelvin > > > > Truong'; 'Che-Hoo CHENG'; 'hread(a)afilias.info' > > > > Subject: RE: DNSSEC @ APRICOT-APAN 2011 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Elvis, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please help setup a mailing list sc(a)dnssec.asia with everyone > > > > on this email thread for a steering committee list to get the > > > > preparations work started. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Had a very good huddle with Ram, Roland and Jim yesterday and > > > > started on the plans for the events, kicking off with the > > > > Opening day session at APRICOT and a workshop session on Wed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just to summarize quickly, we discussed so far: > > > > > > > > - inviting PIR -- AFILIAS > > > > > > > > - inviting Steve Crocker (is it intended for him to be on the > > > > SC?) -- EDMON > > > > > > > > - marking Vint's schedule for the opening -- EDMON/PING/CHEHOO > > > > > > > > - inviting ISC (suzanne for the workshop) -- AFILIAS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Edmon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Charles Mok (gmail) [mailto:charlespmok@gmail.com] > > > > Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 11:14 PM > > > > To: Edmon Chung > > > > Cc: rlaplante(a)afilias.info; hread(a)afilias.info; Ching Chiao; Ka > > > > Ping Wong; Ram Mohan; James M Galvin; Kelvin Truong; Che-Hoo > > > > CHENG Subject: Re: DNSSEC @ APRICOT-APAN 2011 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I support Edmon's ideas! And thanks again to Roland for your > > > > support! > > > > > > > > Charles > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Edmon Chung > > > > <edmon(a)registry.asia> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Roland, This is great! Excited to have Afilias as a Sponsor > > > > :-) Ping will work with Heather on the sponsorship arrangements. > > > > > > > > > > > > Let's start working out a plan for a DNSSEC.Asia summit for the > > > > opening day > > > > of APRICOT (along with perhaps even a couple of workshops > > > > during the week, > > > > and a booth at the exhibition area). We will need strong > > > > support from Afilias to get this done too, beyond monetary > > > > sponsorship support. My initial thought is to develop it into > > > > something like > > > > www.IPv6World.asia, > > > > which is a seminar and workshop series. > > > > > > > > I am adding Charles Mok and Che Hoo Cheng to this discussion. > > > > Think it > > > > might work best if, like IPv6World.Asia, we can get ISOC HK to > > > > help push > > > > DNSSEC.Asia. > > > > > > > > Here are a few thoughts: > > > > > > > > 1. DNSSEC.Asia Summit -- would like for this to be a high level > > > > conference > > > > style discussion. Should probably include Vint in the line up > > > > of speakers. > > > > Jim/Ram, any suggestions on who else? Dan Kaminsky?... > > > > (Monday, Feb 21, > > > > 9:30AM-12:00Noon) > > > > > > > > 2. DNSSEC.Asia Workshop -- this should be designed for ISP and > > > > hosting provider engineers. Jim/Ram, any suggestion on > > > > format?... (Wednesday, Feb > > > > 23, 2PM-5PM -- either room for 27 or 50 classroom setting... > > > > please also > > > > suggest) > > > > > > > > 3. DNSSEC Showcase at APRICOT Press Conference -- I was > > > > wondering if it is > > > > possible to do a demonstration of a dns spoofing / man in the > > > > middle attack... e.g. to have everyone connect to a particular > > > > wifi spot and then > > > > show the compromised results... how can we/ is it possible to > > > > make it an > > > > interesting demonstration... > > > > > > > > 4. DNSSEC.Asia Website -- we should collect a set of > > > > information, materials > > > > and tools for different users (registry, registrar, registrant, > > > > ISP, hosting > > > > providers, corporations, end-users, etc.), should also consider > > > > maintaining > > > > a directory of TLDs supporting DNSSEC, websites/services > > > > supporting DNSSEC > > > > > > > > > > > > Am hoping we can start from HK and replicate this around Asia. > > > > I.e. to > > > > develop DNSSEC.Asia seminars/workshops around Asia, partnering > > > > with local > > > > ISOC chapter or relevant organizations. > > > > > > > > Anyway, perhaps lets start with thoughts on 1, 2 and 3 and how > > > > we can invite > > > > the right speakers > > > > > > > > > > > > Edmon >

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[Dnssec_sc] mailing test 2
by Elvis Lam 12 Jan '11

12 Jan '11

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