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Dear Chat, Kuo-Wei, I’ve included your comments and additions and reflected them in the email below. Kuo Wei, thanks – if the lawyer can also mention in broader terms the regulatory challenges that Peng Hwa suggested, then I think that will be fine. I've adjusted the timings slightly so that there’s still a (small) chance for Q&As. I think that’s all we can take for the roud-up session/panel. Thanks all! Regards, Kelvin From: Kuo-Wei Wu <kuoweiwu@gmail.com> Date: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 at 9:01 PM To: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> Cc: "Ang Peng Hwa (Prof)" <TPHANG@ntu.edu.sg>, Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com>, "planning@apilp.asia" <planning@apilp.asia>, Hann Kenn Yee <hannkenn.yee@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Apilp_planning] APILP preparations - Available slot to speak on Emerging issues Uber has some legal issue in Taiwan, I can ask a lawyer to explain the issues in Taiwan. If you want. Kuowei Wu Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> 於 2016年6月1日 星期三寫道： > Dear all, > > Thanks Peng Hwa, Hong Xue, Noelle. > > Seeing there’s no further comments, I think we have a good roundup on the > below. If anyone has some good contacts who can speak on the last session, > please do feel free to recommend. Will try to source too. > > Could I check if anyone wishes to “moderate" this brief session? Peng Hwa, > would you like to do so and perhaps that could lead nicely to a closing > message from you (as Chair APILP)? > > Roundup Discussion on Emerging Issues (17:30-18:30) > > - IoT, mobility and digital fabrication and related governance issues - Izumi > Aizu (10 minutes) > - IoT and its unique implications on online privacy, security and personal > data protection – Noelle de Guzman, ISOC (10minutes) > - Electronic identity management and related governance issues – Hong Xue, > Beijing Normal University (10 minutes) > - Regulation for the “sharing economy” - Uber, AirBnB etc <Kuo-Wei to suggest > speaker> (10 minutes) - Women's rights issues in relation to the internet - Bishakaa Datta (10 mins) > - Q&As (10 minutes) > > Thanks all! > > Regards, > Kelvin > > > From: "Ang Peng Hwa (Prof)" <TPHANG@ntu.edu.sg > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','TPHANG@ntu.edu.sg');> > > Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 at 1:05 AM > To: Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','hongxueipr@gmail.com');> >, Kelvin Wong > <kelvin.wong@icann.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');> > > > Cc: "planning@apilp.asia <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');> > " <planning@apilp.asia <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');> > >, Hann Kenn Yee <hannkenn.yee@icann.org > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','hannkenn.yee@icann.org');> > > Subject: Re: [Apilp_planning] APILP preparations - Available slot to speak on > Emerging issues > > Apologies for the tardy response. Trying to catch up with the work. > > I would say that a significant issue everyone is wrestling with these days and > one that could use the multistakeholder model is the issue of regulations for > the “sharing economy”. I’m thinking in particular of services such as Uber, > Airbnb. The only real answer to this is to incorporate government, business > and civil society. Any one stakeholder would not yield a good result. > > Perhaps the legal counsel of one of these companies could be at the session to > speak. > > For your consideration. > > Regards, > Ang Peng Hwa > > > From: Apilp_planning <apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia');> > on > behalf of Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','hongxueipr@gmail.com');> > > Date: Monday, 30 May 2016 5:51 pm > To: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');> > > Cc: "planning@apilp.asia <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');> > " <planning@apilp.asia <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');> > >, Hann Kenn Yee <hannkenn.yee@icann.org > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','hannkenn.yee@icann.org');> > > Subject: Re: [Apilp_planning] APILP preparations - Available slot to speak on > Emerging issues > > Dear Kelvin, > > If there is still time available, I'd be happy to give a short talk on > "electronic identity management and related governance issues", which is > relevant to both IoT, privacy and international trade law. > > If not time for talk now, I'm also okay to join the discussion only. > > regards > > > > Professor Dr. Hong Xue > Director of Beijing Normal University Institute for Internet Policy & Law > (IIPL) > Co-Director of UNCITRAL-BNU Joint Certificate Program on International > E-Commerce Law > http://www.iipl.org.cn/ > 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street > Beijing 100875 China > > On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 6:07 PM, Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');> > wrote: >> Dear all, >> >> Thanks for the comments. Chat, I’ve included the current program and the >> session write-ups, as attached. The target audience will be largely newcomers >> in general, including yIGF participants who will be attending in part. We’re >> also asking the APrIGF Fellows to attend these sessions. >> >> On the session, I think we have some convergence of views on the final >> session (17:30-18:30): >> * Round-up(-ish), forward looking themes; >> * Diverse and bold perspectives on emerging issues that will impact people in >> critical ways; >> * Governance issues tied to emerging topics/technologies >> Can we have some nomination of speakers/self nomination that can complement >> the following: >> >> - IoT, mobility and digital fabrication and related governance issues - by >> Izumi Aizu (10 minutes) >> - Others? >> >> I note that Noelle/ISOC has just been added to this group – Noelle, any >> related themes topics that ISOC can contribute and speak to? >> >> >> Regards, >> Kelvin >> >> >> From: Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','hongxueipr@gmail.com');> > >> Date: Monday, May 23, 2016 at 2:10 PM >> To: Chat Garcia Ramilo <chat@apcwomen.org >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','chat@apcwomen.org');> > >> Cc: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');> >, >> "kuoweiwu@gmail.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kuoweiwu@gmail.com');> " >> <kuoweiwu@gmail.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kuoweiwu@gmail.com');> >, >> "planning@apilp.asia <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');> " >> <planning@apilp.asia <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');> >, >> Hann Kenn Yee <hannkenn.yee@icann.org >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','hannkenn.yee@icann.org');> > >> >> Subject: Re: [Apilp_planning] APILP preparations - Available slot to speak on >> Emerging issues >> >> I agree with Chat's proposal. Also, it would be nice to have Izumi's >> 10-minute video shown at the session. >> >> Hong >> >> Professor Dr. Hong Xue >> Director of Beijing Normal University Institute for Internet Policy & Law >> (IIPL) >> Co-Director of UNCITRAL-BNU Joint Certificate Program on International >> E-Commerce Law >> http://www.iipl.org.cn/ >> 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street >> Beijing 100875 China >> >> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:20 AM, Chat Garcia Ramilo <chat@apcwomen.org >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','chat@apcwomen.org');> > wrote: >>> Hi Kelvin, >>> >>> I like the idea of a round up for this session with a few speakers who >>> can give diverse and bold perspectives on emerging issues that will >>> impact people in critical ways. I agree that forward looking themes will >>> be most useful for this session rather than specific technologies. >>> >>> Can we define the focus now and allow for more time to think about the >>> possible themes and speakers? Alternatively, we can keep the topic broad >>> so we have more flexibility in shaping the session - ie. once the rest >>> of the day's agenda is more detailed and we have a better idea of who >>> will be participating. >>> >>> best, >>> Chat >>> >>> >>> On 5/18/16 9:06 PM, Kelvin Wong wrote: >>>> > Hi Kuo-wei, >>>> > >>>> > I think the previously proposed course included Internet of Things, so >>>> > perhaps some popular emerging topics such as IoT, big data, AI(?) could >>>> > make the cut. The session may even be a round up of sorts or have a >>>> > forward looking theme without going into any technologies in detail. >>>> > >>>> > Again, open to more suggestions. >>>> > >>>> > Regards, >>>> > Kelvin >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > From: Kuo-Wei Wu <kuoweiwu@gmail.com >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kuoweiwu@gmail.com');> >>>> <mailto:kuoweiwu@gmail.com >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kuoweiwu@gmail.com');> >> >>>> > Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 at 6:00 PM >>>> > To: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');> >>>> <mailto:kelvin.wong@icann.org >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');> >> >>>> > Cc: "planning@apilp.asia >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');> >>>> <mailto:planning@apilp.asia >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');> >" >>>> > <planning@apilp.asia >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');> >>>> <mailto:planning@apilp.asia >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');> >>, Yannis Li >>>> > <yannis@registry.asia >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','yannis@registry.asia');> >>>> <mailto:yannis@registry.asia >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','yannis@registry.asia');> >>, Hann Kenn Yee >>>> > <hannkenn.yee@icann.org >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','hannkenn.yee@icann.org');> >>>> <mailto:hannkenn.yee@icann.org >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','hannkenn.yee@icann.org');> >> >>>> > Subject: Re: [Apilp_planning] APILP preparations - Available slot to >>>> > speak on Emerging issues >>>> > >>>> > What topics will be raise for "emerging issues"? And material available? >>>> > I believe many can present for it. >>>> > >>>> > Kuowei Wu >>>> > >>>> > Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');> >>>> <mailto:kelvin.wong@icann.org >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');> >> 於 >>>> > 2016年5月18日 星期三寫道： >>>> > >>>> > Thanks Kuo-Wei :) >>>> > >>>> > Dear APILP planning group, >>>> > >>>> > Just to also share with this group we now have a 1-hour slot free >>>> > for the last session on "General: Emerging Issues” 26 July >>>> > (17:30-18:30) as one of our speakers will be unable to make it in >>>> > the new Day 0 format. >>>> > >>>> > Grateful for any suggestions on the topics for this, and if anyone >>>> > would like to speak on this or nominate another. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Attached is the updated program for the day. >>>> > >>>> > ____ >>>> > >>>> > Thank you! >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Regards, >>>> > Kelvin >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > From: Wu Kuo-Wei <kuoweiwu@gmail.com >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kuoweiwu@gmail.com');> >>>> > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kuoweiwu@gmail.com >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kuoweiwu@gmail.com');> ');>> >>>> > Date: Friday, May 13, 2016 at 4:50 PM >>>> > To: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');> >>>> > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');> ');>> >>>> > Cc: Yannis Li <yannis@registry.asia >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','yannis@registry.asia');> >>>> > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','yannis@registry.asia >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','yannis@registry.asia');> ');>>, >>>> > "planning@apilp.asia >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');> >>>> > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');> ');>" >>>> > <planning@apilp.asia >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');> >>>> > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');> ');>> >>>> > Subject: Re: [Apilp_planning] APILP preparations >>>> > >>>> > Sounds fine to me. >>>> > >>>> > Kuo Wu >>>> > >>>>> >> Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');> >>>>> >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');> ');>> 於 2016年 >>>>> >> 5月13日 16:49 寫道： >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Dear all, >>>>> >> >>>>> >> After some correspondence with the David and Yannis, >>>>> >> yIGF organizers, we would like to suggest that we reserve the >>>>> >> first 15 minutes for a Welcome address targetted at the the >>>>> >> newcomers, APrIGF fellows, as well as for introductions to >>>>> >> yIGF/APILP. This will be the first time many of the attendees >>>>> >> have participated in the programs. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> In addition, I’d like to propose adding the following topic on >>>>> >> “Human Rights and the Internet” for the 16:00-17:30 civil society >>>>> >> session. Thanks Chat and Jac / APC for proposing the topic for >>>>> >> this and agreeing to lead the session (description below). Sounds >>>>> >> like a good introductory session for the newcomers. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> /*_Human Rights and the Internet_: *Overview of how the human >>>>> >> rights framework has been applied in internet governance and >>>>> >> policy development. This includes the history of human rights from >>>>> >> WSIS to IGF, and the interlinkages between policy processes such >>>>> >> as Human Rights Council, ITU and UN Commission on the Status of >>>>> >> Women in the articulation of the right to freedom of expression, >>>>> >> violence against women, right to be forgotten and privacy on the >>>>> >> internet./ >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> The full program is attached for your reference, and comments, if >>>>> >> any, by end 17 May (Tues). Thanks! >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Regards, >>>>> >> Kelvin >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> From: Apilp_planning <apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia');> >>>>> >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia');> >>>>> ');>> >>>>> >> on behalf of Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');> >>>>> >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');> ');>> >>>>> >> Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 9:03 AM >>>>> >> To: Yannis Li <yannis@registry.asia >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','yannis@registry.asia');> >>>>> >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','yannis@registry.asia >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','yannis@registry.asia');> ');>> >>>>> >> Cc: "planning@apilp.asia >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');> >>>>> >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');> ');>" >>>>> >> <planning@apilp.asia >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');> >>>>> >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');> ');>> >>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Apilp_planning] APILP preparations >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Hi Yannis, >>>>> >> >>>>> >> If no one objects, I think we can include the course descriptions >>>>> >> in the 3 workshop proposals in the agenda, since these are more >>>>> >> firm, and provide more detail. The write up also includes the >>>>> >> blurb on APILP. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> And if you could avoid references to the fact that we proposed to >>>>> >> spread it over 3 days, that will be much appreciated. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Original workshop proposals are attached for reference. Thanks >>>>> >> Yannis. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Regards, >>>>> >> Kelvin >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> From: Yannis Li <yannis@registry.asia >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','yannis@registry.asia');> >>>>> >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','yannis@registry.asia >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','yannis@registry.asia');> ');>> >>>>> >> Date: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 5:33 PM >>>>> >> To: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');> >>>>> >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');> ');>> >>>>> >> Cc: "kuoweiwu@gmail.com >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kuoweiwu@gmail.com');> >>>>> >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kuoweiwu@gmail.com >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kuoweiwu@gmail.com');> ');>" >>>>> >> <kuoweiwu@gmail.com >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kuoweiwu@gmail.com');> >>>>> >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kuoweiwu@gmail.com >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kuoweiwu@gmail.com');> ');>>, >>>>> >> "planning@apilp.asia >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');> >>>>> >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');> ');>" >>>>> >> <planning@apilp.asia >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');> >>>>> >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');> ');>> >>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Apilp_planning] APILP preparations >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Hi All, >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Added Klee and Chester to the Planning list as requested. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Regarding the information on website, Kelvin do you think it’s ok >>>>> >> if I just copied the 3 workshop proposals brief introduction to >>>>> >> the agenda? Or if you have a blurb that we can put on the >>>>> >> registration page might work too. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Thanks. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> *Best Regards,* >>>>> >> * >>>>> >> * >>>>> >> *Yannis Li* >>>>> >> *DotAsia Organisation Ltd.* >>>>> >> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> ---------------------- >>>>> >> Address: 12F, Daily House, 35-37 Haiphong Road, Tsim Sha Tsui, >>>>> >> Hong Kong >>>>> >> Tel: +852 2244 7920 <tel:%2B852%202244%207920> ︳Fax: +852 2244 >>>>> 7902 <tel:%2B852%202244%207902> >>>>> >> ︳http://www.dot.asia <http://www.dot.asia/> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On 3 May 2016, at 10:15 AM, Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');> >>>>> >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');> ');>> wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Thanks Kuowei, it will be good if we could spread the word about >>>>> >> this day 0 activity, and get more conference attendees, especially >>>>> >> new(er)comers, to make arrangements to come one day earlier for >>>>> this. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Some related logistic considerations (for local host): >>>>> >> >>>>> >> - If the APrIGF 2016 website and registration page could have some >>>>> >> information about the Day 0 APILP program, while the planning team >>>>> >> continues to firm up the program, that will be great. Sorry if >>>>> >> I’ve missed them. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> - At MSG, there was a brief discussion on the room capacity. I >>>>> >> think it was a good sized room of about 80pax for Day 0. However, >>>>> >> as some pointed out, if we have 60 yIGF participants (not sure I >>>>> >> heard this one correctly), and with the 20+ fellows, there will be >>>>> >> more than 80 participants, at least at certain times? In that >>>>> >> case, we may need to have a bigger size room, since there would be >>>>> >> other participants/newcomers to the APILP that is not yIGF or >>>>> >> fellows too (including some of us here whom I’m sure would like to >>>>> >> be in the room) :) How possible is that? >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Thanks! >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Regards, >>>>> >> Kelvin >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> From: Kuo-Wei Wu <kuoweiwu@gmail.com >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kuoweiwu@gmail.com');> >>>>> >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kuoweiwu@gmail.com >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kuoweiwu@gmail.com');> ');>> >>>>> >> Date: Saturday, April 30, 2016 at 11:12 PM >>>>> >> To: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');> >>>>> >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');> ');>> >>>>> >> Cc: Yannis Li <yannis@registry.asia >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','yannis@registry.asia');> >>>>> >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','yannis@registry.asia >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','yannis@registry.asia');> ');>>, >>>>> >> "planning@apilp.asia >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');> >>>>> >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');> ');>" >>>>> >> <planning@apilp.asia >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');> >>>>> >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');> ');>> >>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Apilp_planning] APILP preparations >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Anything I can help for APILP? >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Kuowei Wu >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');> >>>>> >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');> ');>> 於 2016年 >>>>> >> 4月26日 星期二寫道： >>>>>> >>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> I’ve reached out to Chat separately regarding the APILP planning >>>>>> >>> team, and >>>>>> >>> am awaiting a response. I’ve highlighted the need for civil >>>>>> society >>>>>> >>> perspective. >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> Meanwhile (and if there is no more input on the program from this >>>>>> >>> group >>>>>> >>> between now and tomorrow), I suppose we can run through the >>>>>> >>> program during >>>>>> >>> tomorrow’s MSG meeting, and seek views. >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> I’m not sure if the local hosts are on this list already, as we >>>>>> still >>>>>> >>> needed to have some clarity on the availability of coffee >>>>>> >>> break/lunch. >>>>>> >>> Otherwise these can be raised tomorrow too. >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> =====Proposed program for Day 0========== >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> 09:00 - 10:30 General: >>>>>> >>> 1. Introduction to Internet Governance & >>>>>> >>> Multistakeholder Model >>>>>> >>> 2. Introduction to APrIGF/MSG (and outcome >>>>>> document?) >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> 10:30 - 11:00 Coffee Break >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> 11:00 - 12:00 Technical: IANA transition >>>>>> >>> 12:00 - 12.30 Technical: Basics of Critical Internet Resources >>>>>> >>> (DNS/IP >>>>>> >>> addresses etc) >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> 12:30 - 14:00 Lunch >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> 14:00 - 14:30 Technical: Fundamentals of Cyber Security / >>>>>> >>> Network Security >>>>>> >>> 14.30 - 15.30 Academic: Internet User's Rights (privacy and >>>>>> >>> access to >>>>>> >>> knowledge) >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> 15:30 - 16:00 Coffee Break >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> 16:00 - 17:30 Civil Society: >>>>>> >>> 1. Exploring publicness' in the Right to Be >>>>>> >>> Forgotten Rulings >>>>>> >>> 2. Other topics >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> 17:30 - 18:30 General: Emerging issues >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> =====Proposed program for Day 0========== >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> Regards, >>>>>> >>> Kelvin >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> On 4/20/16, 2:32 PM, "Apilp_planning on behalf of Kelvin Wong" >>>>>> >>> <apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia >>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia');> >>>>>> on behalf of >>>>>> >>> kelvin.wong@icann.org >>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');> > >>>>>> >>> wrote: >>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >Thanks Yannis for this. >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> >On Paul’s note below, I think it will be great to have Chat in >>>>>>> this too, >>>>>>> >>> >to add more perspective. >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> >Just to point out a small typo - I think you meant "14:00 - 14:30 - >>>>>>> >>> >Technical: Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network Security”. Revised >>>>>>> >>> >programme looks good to me, and we can use this as the base for >>>>>>> >>> >discussion. >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> >Peng Hwa, should we be including any others from APILP into >>>>>>> this planning >>>>>>> >>> >group? >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> >Thanks. >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> >Regards, >>>>>>> >>> >Kelvin >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> >>> >On 4/20/16, 1:32 PM, "Apilp_planning on behalf of Yannis Li" >>>>>>> >>> ><apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia >>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia');> >>>>>>> on behalf of >>>>>> >>> yannis@registry.asia >>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','yannis@registry.asia');> > >>>>>>> >>> >wrote: >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>>> >>> >>Dear All, >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >>Just want to let you know that planning@apilp.asia >>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');> has been >>>>>>>> activated. >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >>Let me know if I should go ahead to add Chat or Paul you >>>>>>>> would talk to >>>>>>>> >>> >>her first. >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >>Thanks. >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >>Best Regards, >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >>Yannis Li >>>>>>>> >>> >>DotAsia Organisation Ltd. >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> >>> >>- >>>>>>>> >>> >>---------------------- >>>>>>>> >>> >>Address: 12F, Daily House, 35-37 Haiphong Road, Tsim Sha >>>>>>>> Tsui, Hong Kong >>>>>>>> >>> >>Tel: +852 2244 7920 <tel:%2B852%202244%207920> ︳Fax: +852 >>>>>>>> 2244 7902 <tel:%2B852%202244%207902> ︳http://www.dot.asia >>>>>>>> <http://www.dot.asia/> >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >>On 19 Apr 2016, at 3:45 PM, Paul Wilson <pwilson@apnic.net >>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pwilson@apnic.net');> > wrote: >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >>Thanks kelvin and all. >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >>Glad to see this and to know that the issue of Civil Society >>>>>>>> presence is >>>>>>>> >>> >>agreed. >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >>This programme is a great start but before setting anything >>>>>>>> in stone, I >>>>>>>> >>> >>would suggest to bring the right people into this discussion. After all >>>>>>>> >>> >>it is not just an issue of civil society “content” but also >>>>>>>> >>> >>“participation” in this process. >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >>I suggest Chat Garcia, who is already active on the MSG, >>>>>>>> would be the >>>>>>>> >>> >>right person to invite into this group in the short term. >>>>>>>> The future >>>>>>>> >>> >>particuipation in the mailing list can continue to emerge as well of >>>>>>>> >>> >>course. >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >>Are you all OK to invite Chat at this stage? >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >>One other comment: >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >>This agenda is very packed and I feel that the allocation of >>>>>>>> 2 90-minutes >>>>>>>> >>> >>slots to the technical community is not quite fair. Perhaps >>>>>>>> if we spent >>>>>>>> >>> >>60 minutes on IANA transiti9on and then 60 on my >>>>>>>> presentation, then this >>>>>>>> >>> >>would free up time for others. >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >>If Hong is happy to be identified as “Academic” then perhaps >>>>>>>> she should >>>>>>>> >>> >>join in with the technical community, with her session >>>>>>>> scheduled before >>>>>>>> >>> >>the afternoon coffee break. Then, we could leave the final session >>>>>>>> >>> >>(16.00-17.30) for the Civil Society issues. >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >>It would look something like this: >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >>09:00 - 10:30 General: >>>>>>>> >>> >> 1. Introduction to Internet Governance & Multistakeholder Model >>>>>>>> >>> >> 2. Introduction to APrIGF/MSG (and outcome document?) >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >>10:30 - 11:00 Coffee Break >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >>11:00 - 12:00 Technical: IANA transition >>>>>>>> >>> >>12:00 - 12.30 Technical: Basics of Critical Internet >>>>>>>> Resources (DNS/IP >>>>>>>> >>> >>addresses etc) >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >>12:30 - 14:00 Lunch >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >>14:00 - 15:30 Technical: Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network >>>>>>>> >>> >>Security >>>>>>>> >>> >>14.30 - 15.30 Academic: Internet User's Rights (privacy and access to >>>>>>>> >>> >>knowledge) >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >>15:30 - 16:00 Coffee Break >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >>16:00 - 17:30 Civil Society: >>>>>>>> >>> >> 1. Exploring publicness' in the Right to Be Forgotten Rulings >>>>>>>> >>> >> 2. Other topics >>>>>>>> >>> >>17:30 - 18:30 General: Emerging issues >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >>Any thoughts? >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >>Paul. >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >>On 18 Apr 2016, at 17:50, Kelvin Wong wrote: >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> Hi Paul, >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> Thanks for starting this conversation. APILP chair is >>>>>>>>> currently Peng >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>Hwa, >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> and we¹d be happy to continue to support. >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> Peng Hwa and I discussed about the program following the MSG meeting >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>last >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> week and we¹ve come up with the attached program - glad that we¹ve >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>reached a >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> similar conclusion that we can beef up the civil society >>>>>>>>> part! The ones >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>in >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> red are proposed and new, and I hope answers the question >>>>>>>>> on the ³civil >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> society² deficiency well. For this, we took the liberty >>>>>>>>> of looking at >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>some >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> of the workshops that are higher ranking but fell out of the top 30, >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>and >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> aligns well with what we think is useful as a segment in APILP. The >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>program >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> is open to discussion of course, and we can float this to >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> planning@apilp.asia >>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');> (and thereafter to MSG?). >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> Looking at the program, since this has been decided to be a full day >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>program >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> on Day 0, I¹m wondering if coffee (and/or lunch) will also be provided >>>>>>>>> >>> >>>for >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> the participants/lecturers, as per the main conference days? >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> Happy to hear views. Thanks. >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> Kelvin >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> On 4/18/16, 3:04 PM, "Paul Wilson" <pwilson@apnic.net >>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pwilson@apnic.net');> > wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>> Now that we have the decision to hold APILP on Day 0, we need to >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>finalise that >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>> schedule and announce it so that we can improve >>>>>>>>>> participation. We >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>also need >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>> to finalise the programme. >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>> I¹d like to suggest an APILP organisers¹ mailing list so that we have >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>easier >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>> and more regular contact; it should also allow others to join. >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>Yannis, can >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>> Dotasia set that up? something like planning@apilp.asia >>>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>> On the quesiton of programme, I feel we have a >>>>>>>>>> deficiency with a lack >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>of >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>> ³civil society² representation and content; so I want to propose to >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>involve >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>> additional organisers who can contribute a unit about >>>>>>>>>> social issues >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>such as >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>> freedom of expression, access, gender etc. I think this is really >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>very >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>> necessary, and I hope we can agree to accomodate that on Day 0 as >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>well. >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>> For clarity, can we confirm someone to formally chair this group? >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>Peng Hwa, >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>> is that you? Or Kelvin? >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>> Thanks all, >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>> Paul. >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>_______________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>_ >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>> Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>dg@apnic.net >>>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dg@apnic.net');> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>> http://www.apnic.net <http://www.apnic.net/> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>@apnicdg >>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>> >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>________________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>>> >>> >>Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC >>>>>>>> dg@apnic.net <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dg@apnic.net');> >>>>>>>> >>> >>http://www.apnic.net <http://www.apnic.net/> >>>>>> >>> @apnicdg >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> >>> >>Apilp_planning mailing list >>>>>>>> >>> >>Apilp_planning@jerry.dot.asia >>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Apilp_planning@jerry.dot.asia');> >>>>>>>> >>> >>https://mailman.dotasia.org/mailman/listinfo/apilp_planning >>>>> >> >>>>> >> <Day 0 APILP Program >>>>> >> [Draft].pdf>_______________________________________________ >>>>> >> Apilp_planning mailing list >>>>> >> Apilp_planning@jerry.dot.asia >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Apilp_planning@jerry.dot.asia');> >>>>> >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Apilp_planning@jerry.dot.asia >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Apilp_planning@jerry.dot.asia');> ');> >>>>> >> https://mailman.dotasia.org/mailman/listinfo/apilp_planning >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Apilp_planning mailing list >>>> > Apilp_planning@jerry.dot.asia >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Apilp_planning@jerry.dot.asia');> >>>> > https://mailman.dotasia.org/mailman/listinfo/apilp_planning >>>> > >>> >>> -- >>> Chat Garcia Ramilo >>> Deputy Executive Director >>> Association for Progressive Communications >>> www.apc.org <http://www.apc.org> >>> philippines >>> tel +63 917 8537575 <tel:%2B63%20917%208537575> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Apilp_planning mailing list >>> Apilp_planning@jerry.dot.asia >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Apilp_planning@jerry.dot.asia');> >>> https://mailman.dotasia.org/mailman/listinfo/apilp_planning >> > > > CONFIDENTIALITY: This email is intended solely for the person(s) named and may > be confidential and/or privileged. 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