New subject: APILP preparations - Available slot to speak on Emerging issues

18 May 2016

Dear Chat, Kuo-Wei,

I’ve included your comments and additions and reflected them in the email
below. Kuo Wei, thanks – if the lawyer can also mention in broader terms the
regulatory challenges that Peng Hwa suggested, then I think that will be
fine.

I've adjusted the timings slightly so that there’s still a (small) chance
for Q&As.  I think that’s all we can take for the roud-up session/panel.

Thanks all!

Regards,
Kelvin

From:  Kuo-Wei Wu <kuoweiwu@gmail.com>
Date:  Wednesday, June 1, 2016 at 9:01 PM
To:  Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org>
Cc:  "Ang Peng Hwa (Prof)" <TPHANG@ntu.edu.sg>, Hong Xue
<hongxueipr@gmail.com>, "planning@apilp.asia" <planning@apilp.asia>, Hann
Kenn Yee <hannkenn.yee@icann.org>
Subject:  Re: [Apilp_planning] APILP preparations - Available slot to speak
on Emerging issues

Uber has some legal issue in Taiwan, I can ask a lawyer to explain the
issues in Taiwan. If you want.

Kuowei Wu 

Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> 於 2016年6月1日 星期三寫道：
> Dear all,
> 
> Thanks Peng Hwa, Hong Xue, Noelle.
> 
> Seeing there’s no further comments, I think we have a good roundup on the
> below.  If anyone has some good contacts who can speak on the last session,
> please do feel free to recommend. Will try to source too.
> 
> Could I check if anyone wishes to “moderate" this brief session? Peng Hwa,
> would you like to do so and perhaps that could lead nicely to a closing
> message from you (as Chair APILP)?
> 
> Roundup Discussion on Emerging Issues (17:30-18:30)
> 
> - IoT, mobility and digital fabrication and related governance issues - Izumi
> Aizu (10 minutes)
> - IoT and its unique implications on online privacy, security and personal
> data protection – Noelle de Guzman, ISOC (10minutes)
> - Electronic identity management and related governance issues – Hong Xue,
> Beijing Normal University (10 minutes)
> - Regulation for the “sharing economy” - Uber, AirBnB etc <Kuo-Wei to suggest
> speaker> (10 minutes)
   - Women's rights issues in relation to the internet - Bishakaa Datta (10
mins)
> - Q&As (10 minutes)
> 
> Thanks all!
> 
> Regards,
> Kelvin
> 
> 
> From: "Ang Peng Hwa (Prof)" <TPHANG@ntu.edu.sg
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','TPHANG@ntu.edu.sg');> >
> Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 at 1:05 AM
> To: Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','hongxueipr@gmail.com');> >, Kelvin Wong
> <kelvin.wong@icann.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');>
> >
> Cc: "planning@apilp.asia <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');>
> " <planning@apilp.asia <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');>
> >, Hann Kenn Yee <hannkenn.yee@icann.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','hannkenn.yee@icann.org');> >
> Subject: Re: [Apilp_planning] APILP preparations - Available slot to speak on
> Emerging issues
> 
> Apologies for the tardy response. Trying to catch up with the work.
> 
> I would say that a significant issue everyone is wrestling with these days and
> one that could use the multistakeholder model is the issue of regulations for
> the “sharing economy”. I’m thinking in particular of services such as Uber,
> Airbnb. The only real answer to this is to incorporate government, business
> and civil society. Any one stakeholder would not yield a good result.
> 
> Perhaps the legal counsel of one of these companies could be at the session to
> speak.
> 
> For your consideration.
> 
> Regards,
> Ang Peng Hwa
> 
> 
> From: Apilp_planning <apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia');> > on
> behalf of Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','hongxueipr@gmail.com');> >
> Date: Monday, 30 May 2016 5:51 pm
> To: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');> >
> Cc: "planning@apilp.asia <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');>
> " <planning@apilp.asia <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');>
> >, Hann Kenn Yee <hannkenn.yee@icann.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','hannkenn.yee@icann.org');> >
> Subject: Re: [Apilp_planning] APILP preparations - Available slot to speak on
> Emerging issues
> 
> Dear Kelvin, 
> 
> If there is still time available, I'd be happy to give a short talk on
> "electronic identity management and related governance issues", which is
> relevant to both IoT, privacy and international trade law.
> 
> If not time for talk now, I'm also okay to join the discussion only.
> 
> regards
> 
>  
> 
> Professor Dr. Hong Xue
> Director of Beijing Normal University Institute for Internet Policy & Law
> (IIPL) 
> Co-Director of UNCITRAL-BNU Joint Certificate Program on International
> E-Commerce Law
> http://www.iipl.org.cn/
> 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street
> Beijing 100875 China
> 
> On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 6:07 PM, Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');> > wrote:
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> Thanks for the comments.  Chat, I’ve included the current program and the
>> session write-ups, as attached. The target audience will be largely newcomers
>> in general, including yIGF participants who will be attending in part. We’re
>> also asking the APrIGF Fellows to attend these sessions.
>> 
>> On the session, I think we have some convergence of views on the final
>> session (17:30-18:30):
>> * Round-up(-ish), forward looking themes;
>> * Diverse and bold perspectives on emerging issues that will impact people in
>> critical ways; 
>> * Governance issues tied to emerging topics/technologies
>> Can we have some nomination of speakers/self nomination that can complement
>> the following:
>> 
>> - IoT, mobility and digital fabrication and related governance issues - by
>> Izumi Aizu (10 minutes)
>> - Others? 
>> 
>> I note that Noelle/ISOC has just been added to this group – Noelle, any
>> related themes topics that ISOC can contribute and speak to?
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Kelvin
>> 
>> 
>> From: Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','hongxueipr@gmail.com');> >
>> Date: Monday, May 23, 2016 at 2:10 PM
>> To: Chat Garcia Ramilo <chat@apcwomen.org
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','chat@apcwomen.org');> >
>> Cc: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');> >,
>> "kuoweiwu@gmail.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kuoweiwu@gmail.com');> "
>> <kuoweiwu@gmail.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kuoweiwu@gmail.com');> >,
>> "planning@apilp.asia <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');> "
>> <planning@apilp.asia <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');> >,
>> Hann Kenn Yee <hannkenn.yee@icann.org
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','hannkenn.yee@icann.org');> >
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [Apilp_planning] APILP preparations - Available slot to speak on
>> Emerging issues
>> 
>> I agree with Chat's proposal. Also, it would be nice to have Izumi's
>> 10-minute video shown at the session.
>> 
>> Hong
>> 
>> Professor Dr. Hong Xue
>> Director of Beijing Normal University Institute for Internet Policy & Law
>> (IIPL) 
>> Co-Director of UNCITRAL-BNU Joint Certificate Program on International
>> E-Commerce Law
>> http://www.iipl.org.cn/
>> 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street
>> Beijing 100875 China
>> 
>> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:20 AM, Chat Garcia Ramilo <chat@apcwomen.org
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','chat@apcwomen.org');> > wrote:
>>> Hi Kelvin,
>>> 
>>> I like the idea of a round up for this session with a few speakers who
>>> can give diverse and bold perspectives on emerging issues that will
>>> impact people in critical ways. I agree that forward looking themes will
>>> be most useful for this session rather than specific technologies.
>>> 
>>> Can we define the focus now and allow for more time to think about the
>>> possible themes and speakers? Alternatively, we can keep the topic broad
>>> so we have more flexibility in shaping the session - ie. once the rest
>>> of the day's agenda is more detailed and we have a better idea of who
>>> will be participating.
>>> 
>>> best,
>>> Chat
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 5/18/16 9:06 PM, Kelvin Wong wrote:
>>>> > Hi Kuo-wei,
>>>> >
>>>> > I think the previously proposed course included Internet of Things, so
>>>> > perhaps some popular emerging topics such as IoT, big data, AI(?) could
>>>> > make the cut.  The session may even be a round up of sorts or have a
>>>> > forward looking theme without going into any technologies in detail.
>>>> >
>>>> > Again, open to more suggestions.
>>>> >
>>>> > Regards,
>>>> > Kelvin
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > From: Kuo-Wei Wu <kuoweiwu@gmail.com
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kuoweiwu@gmail.com');>
>>>> <mailto:kuoweiwu@gmail.com
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kuoweiwu@gmail.com');> >>
>>>> > Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 at 6:00 PM
>>>> > To: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');>
>>>> <mailto:kelvin.wong@icann.org
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');> >>
>>>> > Cc: "planning@apilp.asia
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');>
>>>> <mailto:planning@apilp.asia
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');> >"
>>>> > <planning@apilp.asia
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');>
>>>> <mailto:planning@apilp.asia
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');> >>, Yannis Li
>>>> > <yannis@registry.asia
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','yannis@registry.asia');>
>>>> <mailto:yannis@registry.asia
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','yannis@registry.asia');> >>, Hann Kenn Yee
>>>> > <hannkenn.yee@icann.org
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','hannkenn.yee@icann.org');>
>>>> <mailto:hannkenn.yee@icann.org
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','hannkenn.yee@icann.org');> >>
>>>> > Subject: Re: [Apilp_planning] APILP preparations - Available slot to
>>>> > speak on Emerging issues
>>>> >
>>>> > What topics will be raise for "emerging issues"? And material available?
>>>> > I believe many can present for it.
>>>> >
>>>> > Kuowei Wu
>>>> >
>>>> > Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');>
>>>> <mailto:kelvin.wong@icann.org
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');> >> 於
>>>> > 2016年5月18日 星期三寫道：
>>>> >
>>>> >     Thanks Kuo-Wei :)
>>>> >
>>>> >     Dear APILP planning group,
>>>> >
>>>> >     Just to also share with this group we now have a 1-hour slot free
>>>> >     for the last session on "General: Emerging Issues” 26 July
>>>> >     (17:30-18:30) as one of our speakers will be unable to make it in
>>>> >     the new Day 0 format.
>>>> >
>>>> >     Grateful for any suggestions on the topics for this, and if anyone
>>>> >     would like to speak on this or nominate another.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >     Attached is the updated program for the day.
>>>> >
>>>> >     ____
>>>> >
>>>> >     Thank you!
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >     Regards,
>>>> >     Kelvin
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >     From: Wu Kuo-Wei <kuoweiwu@gmail.com
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kuoweiwu@gmail.com');>
>>>> >     <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kuoweiwu@gmail.com
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kuoweiwu@gmail.com');> ');>>
>>>> >     Date: Friday, May 13, 2016 at 4:50 PM
>>>> >     To: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');>
>>>> >     <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');> ');>>
>>>> >     Cc: Yannis Li <yannis@registry.asia
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','yannis@registry.asia');>
>>>> >     <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','yannis@registry.asia
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','yannis@registry.asia');> ');>>,
>>>> >     "planning@apilp.asia
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');>
>>>> >     <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');> ');>"
>>>> >     <planning@apilp.asia
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');>
>>>> >     <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');> ');>>
>>>> >     Subject: Re: [Apilp_planning] APILP preparations
>>>> >
>>>> >     Sounds fine to me.
>>>> >
>>>> >     Kuo Wu
>>>> >
>>>>> >>     Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');>
>>>>> >>     <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');> ');>> 於 2016年
>>>>> >>     5月13日 16:49 寫道：
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     Dear all,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     After some correspondence with the David and Yannis,
>>>>> >>     yIGF organizers, we would like to suggest that we reserve the
>>>>> >>     first 15 minutes for a Welcome address targetted at the the
>>>>> >>     newcomers, APrIGF fellows, as well as for introductions to
>>>>> >>     yIGF/APILP.  This will be the first time many of the attendees
>>>>> >>     have participated in the programs.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     In addition, I’d like to propose adding the following topic on
>>>>> >>     “Human Rights and the Internet” for the 16:00-17:30 civil society
>>>>> >>     session.  Thanks Chat and Jac / APC for proposing the topic for
>>>>> >>     this and agreeing to lead the session (description below). Sounds
>>>>> >>     like a good introductory session for the newcomers.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     /*_Human Rights and the Internet_: *Overview of how the human
>>>>> >>     rights framework has been applied in internet governance and
>>>>> >>     policy development. This includes the history of human rights from
>>>>> >>     WSIS to IGF, and the interlinkages between policy processes such
>>>>> >>     as Human Rights Council, ITU and UN Commission on the Status of
>>>>> >>     Women in the articulation of the right to freedom of expression,
>>>>> >>     violence against women, right to be forgotten and privacy on the
>>>>> >>     internet./
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     The full program is attached for your reference, and comments, if
>>>>> >>     any, by end 17 May (Tues).  Thanks!
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     Regards,
>>>>> >>     Kelvin
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     From: Apilp_planning <apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia');>
>>>>> >>     <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia');>
>>>>> ');>>
>>>>> >>     on behalf of Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');>
>>>>> >>     <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');> ');>>
>>>>> >>     Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 9:03 AM
>>>>> >>     To: Yannis Li <yannis@registry.asia
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','yannis@registry.asia');>
>>>>> >>     <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','yannis@registry.asia
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','yannis@registry.asia');> ');>>
>>>>> >>     Cc: "planning@apilp.asia
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');>
>>>>> >>     <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');> ');>"
>>>>> >>     <planning@apilp.asia
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');>
>>>>> >>     <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');> ');>>
>>>>> >>     Subject: Re: [Apilp_planning] APILP preparations
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     Hi Yannis,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     If no one objects, I think we can include the course descriptions
>>>>> >>     in the 3 workshop proposals in the agenda, since these are more
>>>>> >>     firm, and provide more detail. The write up also includes the
>>>>> >>     blurb on APILP.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     And if you could avoid references to the fact that we proposed to
>>>>> >>     spread it over 3 days, that will be much appreciated.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     Original workshop proposals are attached for reference.  Thanks
>>>>> >>     Yannis.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     Regards,
>>>>> >>     Kelvin
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     From: Yannis Li <yannis@registry.asia
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','yannis@registry.asia');>
>>>>> >>     <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','yannis@registry.asia
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','yannis@registry.asia');> ');>>
>>>>> >>     Date: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 5:33 PM
>>>>> >>     To: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');>
>>>>> >>     <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');> ');>>
>>>>> >>     Cc: "kuoweiwu@gmail.com
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kuoweiwu@gmail.com');>
>>>>> >>     <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kuoweiwu@gmail.com
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kuoweiwu@gmail.com');> ');>"
>>>>> >>     <kuoweiwu@gmail.com
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kuoweiwu@gmail.com');>
>>>>> >>     <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kuoweiwu@gmail.com
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kuoweiwu@gmail.com');> ');>>,
>>>>> >>     "planning@apilp.asia
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');>
>>>>> >>     <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');> ');>"
>>>>> >>     <planning@apilp.asia
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');>
>>>>> >>     <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');> ');>>
>>>>> >>     Subject: Re: [Apilp_planning] APILP preparations
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     Hi All,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     Added Klee and Chester to the Planning list as requested.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     Regarding the information on website, Kelvin do you think it’s ok
>>>>> >>     if I just copied the 3 workshop proposals brief introduction to
>>>>> >>     the agenda? Or if you have a blurb that we can put on the
>>>>> >>     registration page might work too.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     Thanks.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     *Best Regards,*
>>>>> >>     *
>>>>> >>     *
>>>>> >>     *Yannis Li*
>>>>> >>     *DotAsia Organisation Ltd.*
>>>>> >>     
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> ----------------------
>>>>> >>     Address: 12F, Daily House, 35-37 Haiphong Road, Tsim Sha Tsui,
>>>>> >>     Hong Kong
>>>>> >>     Tel: +852 2244 7920 <tel:%2B852%202244%207920>    ︳Fax: +852 2244
>>>>> 7902 <tel:%2B852%202244%207902>
>>>>> >>     ︳http://www.dot.asia <http://www.dot.asia/>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     On 3 May 2016, at 10:15 AM, Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');>
>>>>> >>     <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');> ');>> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     Thanks Kuowei, it will be good if we could spread the word about
>>>>> >>     this day 0 activity, and get more conference attendees, especially
>>>>> >>     new(er)comers, to make arrangements to come one day earlier for
>>>>> this.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     Some related logistic considerations (for local host):
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     - If the APrIGF 2016 website and registration page could have some
>>>>> >>     information about the Day 0 APILP program, while the planning team
>>>>> >>     continues to firm up the program, that will be great. Sorry if
>>>>> >>     I’ve missed them.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     - At MSG, there was a brief discussion on the room capacity. I
>>>>> >>     think it was a good sized room of about 80pax for Day 0. However,
>>>>> >>     as some pointed out, if we have 60 yIGF participants (not sure I
>>>>> >>     heard this one correctly), and with the 20+ fellows, there will be
>>>>> >>     more than 80 participants, at least at certain times? In that
>>>>> >>     case, we may need to have a bigger size room, since there would be
>>>>> >>     other participants/newcomers to the APILP that is not yIGF or
>>>>> >>     fellows too (including some of us here whom I’m sure would like to
>>>>> >>     be in the room) :)   How possible is that?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     Thanks!
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     Regards,
>>>>> >>     Kelvin
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     From: Kuo-Wei Wu <kuoweiwu@gmail.com
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kuoweiwu@gmail.com');>
>>>>> >>     <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kuoweiwu@gmail.com
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kuoweiwu@gmail.com');> ');>>
>>>>> >>     Date: Saturday, April 30, 2016 at 11:12 PM
>>>>> >>     To: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');>
>>>>> >>     <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');> ');>>
>>>>> >>     Cc: Yannis Li <yannis@registry.asia
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','yannis@registry.asia');>
>>>>> >>     <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','yannis@registry.asia
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','yannis@registry.asia');> ');>>,
>>>>> >>     "planning@apilp.asia
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');>
>>>>> >>     <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');> ');>"
>>>>> >>     <planning@apilp.asia
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');>
>>>>> >>     <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');> ');>>
>>>>> >>     Subject: Re: [Apilp_planning] APILP preparations
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     Anything I can help for APILP?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     Kuowei Wu
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');>
>>>>> >>     <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');> ');>> 於 2016年
>>>>> >>     4月26日 星期二寫道：
>>>>>> >>>     Hi all,
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>     I’ve reached out to Chat separately regarding the APILP planning
>>>>>> >>>     team, and
>>>>>> >>>     am awaiting a response. I’ve highlighted the need for civil
>>>>>> society
>>>>>> >>>     perspective.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>     Meanwhile (and if there is no more input on the program from this
>>>>>> >>>     group
>>>>>> >>>     between now and tomorrow), I suppose we can run through the
>>>>>> >>>     program during
>>>>>> >>>     tomorrow’s MSG meeting, and seek views.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>     I’m not sure if the local hosts are on this list already, as we
>>>>>> still
>>>>>> >>>     needed to have some clarity on the availability of coffee
>>>>>> >>>     break/lunch.
>>>>>> >>>     Otherwise these can be raised tomorrow too.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>     =====Proposed program for Day 0==========
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>     09:00 - 10:30   General:
>>>>>> >>>                     1. Introduction to Internet Governance &
>>>>>> >>>     Multistakeholder Model
>>>>>> >>>                     2. Introduction to APrIGF/MSG (and outcome
>>>>>> document?)
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>     10:30 - 11:00   Coffee Break
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>     11:00 - 12:00   Technical: IANA transition
>>>>>> >>>     12:00 - 12.30   Technical:  Basics of Critical Internet Resources
>>>>>> >>>     (DNS/IP
>>>>>> >>>     addresses etc)
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>     12:30 - 14:00   Lunch
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>     14:00 - 14:30   Technical:  Fundamentals of Cyber Security /
>>>>>> >>>     Network Security
>>>>>> >>>     14.30 - 15.30   Academic: Internet User's Rights (privacy and
>>>>>> >>>     access to
>>>>>> >>>     knowledge)
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>     15:30 - 16:00   Coffee Break
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>     16:00 - 17:30   Civil Society:
>>>>>> >>>                     1. Exploring publicness' in the Right to Be
>>>>>> >>>     Forgotten Rulings
>>>>>> >>>                     2. Other topics
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>     17:30 - 18:30   General: Emerging issues
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>     =====Proposed program for Day 0==========
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>     Regards,
>>>>>> >>>     Kelvin
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>     On 4/20/16, 2:32 PM, "Apilp_planning on behalf of Kelvin Wong"
>>>>>> >>>     <apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia');>
>>>>>> on behalf of
>>>>>> >>>     kelvin.wong@icann.org
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong@icann.org');> >
>>>>>> >>>     wrote:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>> >>>     >Thanks Yannis for this.
>>>>>>> >>>     >
>>>>>>> >>>     >On Paul’s note below, I think it will be great to have Chat in
>>>>>>> this too,
>>>>>>> >>>     >to add more perspective.
>>>>>>> >>>     >
>>>>>>> >>>     >Just to point out a small typo - I think you meant "14:00 -
14:30 -
>>>>>>> >>>     >Technical:  Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network Security”.
Revised
>>>>>>> >>>     >programme looks good to me, and we can use this as the base for
>>>>>>> >>>     >discussion.
>>>>>>> >>>     >
>>>>>>> >>>     >Peng Hwa, should we be including any others from APILP into
>>>>>>> this planning
>>>>>>> >>>     >group?
>>>>>>> >>>     >
>>>>>>> >>>     >Thanks.
>>>>>>> >>>     >
>>>>>>> >>>     >Regards,
>>>>>>> >>>     >Kelvin
>>>>>>> >>>     >
>>>>>>> >>>     >
>>>>>>> >>>     >
>>>>>>> >>>     >
>>>>>>> >>>     >
>>>>>>> >>>     >On 4/20/16, 1:32 PM, "Apilp_planning on behalf of Yannis Li"
>>>>>>> >>>     ><apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia
>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia');>
>>>>>>> on behalf of
>>>>>> >>>     yannis@registry.asia
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','yannis@registry.asia');> >
>>>>>>> >>>     >wrote:
>>>>>>> >>>     >
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>Dear All,
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>Just want to let you know that planning@apilp.asia
>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');>  has been
>>>>>>>> activated.
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>Let me know if I should go ahead to add Chat or Paul you
>>>>>>>> would talk to
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>her first.
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>Thanks.
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>Best Regards,
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>Yannis Li
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>DotAsia Organisation Ltd.
>>>>>>>> >>>     
>>>>>>>> 
>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>-
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>----------------------
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>Address: 12F, Daily House, 35-37 Haiphong Road, Tsim Sha
>>>>>>>> Tsui, Hong Kong
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>Tel: +852 2244 7920 <tel:%2B852%202244%207920>    ︳Fax: +852
>>>>>>>> 2244 7902 <tel:%2B852%202244%207902>    ︳http://www.dot.asia
>>>>>>>> <http://www.dot.asia/>
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>On 19 Apr 2016, at 3:45 PM, Paul Wilson <pwilson@apnic.net
>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pwilson@apnic.net');> > wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>Thanks kelvin and all.
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>Glad to see this and to know that the issue of Civil Society
>>>>>>>> presence is
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>agreed.
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>This programme is a great start but before setting anything
>>>>>>>> in stone, I
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>would suggest to bring the right people into this discussion.
After all
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>it is not just an issue of civil society “content” but also
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>“participation” in this process.
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>I suggest Chat Garcia, who is already active on the MSG,
>>>>>>>> would be the
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>right person to invite into this group in the short term.
>>>>>>>> The future
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>particuipation in the mailing list can continue to emerge as
well of
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>course.
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>Are you all OK to invite Chat at this stage?
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>One other comment:
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>This agenda is very packed and I feel that the allocation of
>>>>>>>> 2 90-minutes
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>slots to the technical community is not quite fair.  Perhaps
>>>>>>>> if we spent
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>60 minutes on IANA transiti9on and then 60 on my
>>>>>>>> presentation, then this
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>would free up time for others.
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>If Hong is happy to be identified as “Academic” then perhaps
>>>>>>>> she should
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>join in with the technical community, with her session
>>>>>>>> scheduled before
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>the afternoon coffee break.  Then, we could leave the final
session
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>(16.00-17.30) for the Civil Society issues.
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>It would look something like this:
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>09:00 - 10:30 General:
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>   1. Introduction to Internet Governance & Multistakeholder
Model
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>   2. Introduction to APrIGF/MSG (and outcome document?)
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>10:30 - 11:00 Coffee Break
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>11:00 - 12:00 Technical: IANA transition
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>12:00 - 12.30 Technical:  Basics of Critical Internet
>>>>>>>> Resources (DNS/IP
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>addresses etc)
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>12:30 - 14:00 Lunch
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>14:00 - 15:30 Technical:  Fundamentals of Cyber Security /
Network
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>Security
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>14.30 - 15.30 Academic: Internet User's Rights (privacy and
access to
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>knowledge)
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>15:30 - 16:00 Coffee Break
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>16:00 - 17:30 Civil Society:
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>   1. Exploring publicness' in the Right to Be Forgotten
Rulings
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>   2. Other topics
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>17:30 - 18:30 General: Emerging issues
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>Any thoughts?
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>Paul.
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>On 18 Apr 2016, at 17:50, Kelvin Wong wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>
>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>> Hi Paul,
>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>> Thanks for starting this conversation. APILP chair is
>>>>>>>>> currently Peng
>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>Hwa,
>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>> and we¹d be happy to continue to support.
>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>> Peng Hwa and I discussed about the program following the
MSG meeting
>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>last
>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>> week and we¹ve come up with the attached program - glad
that we¹ve
>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>reached a
>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>> similar conclusion that we can beef up the civil society
>>>>>>>>> part! The ones
>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>in
>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>> red are proposed and new, and I hope answers the question
>>>>>>>>> on the ³civil
>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>> society² deficiency well.  For this, we took the liberty
>>>>>>>>> of looking at
>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>some
>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>> of the workshops that are higher ranking but fell out of
the top 30,
>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>and
>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>> aligns well with what we think is useful as a segment in
APILP. The
>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>program
>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>> is open to discussion of course, and we can float this to
>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>> planning@apilp.asia
>>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');>  (and thereafter
to MSG?).
>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>> Looking at the program, since this has been decided to be
a full day
>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>program
>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>> on Day 0, I¹m wondering if coffee (and/or lunch) will also
be provided
>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>for
>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>> the participants/lecturers, as per the main conference
days?
>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>> Happy to hear views. Thanks.
>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>> Kelvin
>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>> On 4/18/16, 3:04 PM, "Paul Wilson" <pwilson@apnic.net
>>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pwilson@apnic.net');> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>> Now that we have the decision to hold APILP on Day 0, we
need to
>>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>>finalise that
>>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>> schedule and announce it so that we can improve
>>>>>>>>>> participation.  We
>>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>>also need
>>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>> to finalise the programme.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>> I¹d like to suggest an APILP organisers¹ mailing list so 
that we have
>>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>>easier
>>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>> and more regular contact;  it should also allow others 
to join.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>>Yannis, can
>>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>> Dotasia set that up?  something like planning@apilp.asia 
>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning@apilp.asia');> 
>>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>> On the quesiton of programme, I feel we have a 
>>>>>>>>>> deficiency with a lack
>>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>>of
>>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>> ³civil society² representation and content; so I want to 
propose to
>>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>>involve
>>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>> additional organisers who can contribute a unit about 
>>>>>>>>>> social issues
>>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>>such as
>>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>> freedom of expression, access, gender etc.  I think this 
is really
>>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>>very
>>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>> necessary, and I hope we can agree to accomodate that on 
Day 0 as
>>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>>well.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>> For clarity, can we confirm someone to formally chair 
this group?
>>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>>Peng Hwa,
>>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>> is that you?  Or Kelvin?
>>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>> Thanks all,
>>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>> Paul.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>     
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>_______________________________________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>>_
>>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>> Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC
>>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>>dg@apnic.net 
>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dg@apnic.net');> 
>>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>> http://www.apnic.net <http://www.apnic.net/>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>>@apnicdg
>>>>>>>>>> >>>     >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>
>>>>>>>> >>>     
>>>>>>>> 
>>________________________________________________________________________
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC                        
>>>>>>>> dg@apnic.net <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dg@apnic.net');> 
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>http://www.apnic.net <http://www.apnic.net/>
>>>>>> >>>                           @apnicdg
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>_______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>Apilp_planning mailing list
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>Apilp_planning@jerry.dot.asia 
>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Apilp_planning@jerry.dot.asia');> 
>>>>>>>> >>>     >>https://mailman.dotasia.org/mailman/listinfo/apilp_planning
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     <Day 0 APILP Program
>>>>> >>     [Draft].pdf>_______________________________________________
>>>>> >>     Apilp_planning mailing list
>>>>> >>     Apilp_planning@jerry.dot.asia 
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>>>>> >>     https://mailman.dotasia.org/mailman/listinfo/apilp_planning
>>>> >
>>>> >
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Re: [Apilp_planning] APILP preparations - Available slot to speak on Emerging issues

Kelvin Wong

Kuo-Wei Wu

Kelvin Wong

Kuo-Wei Wu

Chat Garcia Ramilo

Izumi Aizu (iza＠anr.org)

Hong Xue

Yannis Li

Kelvin Wong

Noelle Francesca de Guzman

Hong Xue

Ang Peng Hwa (Prof)

Kelvin Wong

Chat Garcia Ramilo

Kuo-Wei Wu

Kelvin Wong

Hong Xue

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