Dear All, Just want to let you know that planning@apilp.asia has been activated. Let me know if I should go ahead to add Chat or Paul you would talk to her first. Thanks. Best Regards, Yannis Li DotAsia Organisation Ltd. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Address: 12F, Daily House, 35-37 Haiphong Road, Tsim Sha Tsui, Hong Kong Tel: +852 2244 7920 ︳Fax: +852 2244 7902 ︳http://www.dot.asia On 19 Apr 2016, at 3:45 PM, Paul Wilson <pwilson@apnic.net> wrote: Thanks kelvin and all. Glad to see this and to know that the issue of Civil Society presence is agreed. This programme is a great start but before setting anything in stone, I would suggest to bring the right people into this discussion. After all it is not just an issue of civil society “content” but also “participation” in this process. I suggest Chat Garcia, who is already active on the MSG, would be the right person to invite into this group in the short term. The future particuipation in the mailing list can continue to emerge as well of course. Are you all OK to invite Chat at this stage? One other comment: This agenda is very packed and I feel that the allocation of 2 90-minutes slots to the technical community is not quite fair. Perhaps if we spent 60 minutes on IANA transiti9on and then 60 on my presentation, then this would free up time for others. If Hong is happy to be identified as “Academic” then perhaps she should join in with the technical community, with her session scheduled before the afternoon coffee break. Then, we could leave the final session (16.00-17.30) for the Civil Society issues. It would look something like this: 09:00 - 10:30 General: 1. Introduction to Internet Governance & Multistakeholder Model 2. Introduction to APrIGF/MSG (and outcome document?) 10:30 - 11:00 Coffee Break 11:00 - 12:00 Technical: IANA transition 12:00 - 12.30 Technical: Basics of Critical Internet Resources (DNS/IP addresses etc) 12:30 - 14:00 Lunch 14:00 - 15:30 Technical: Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network Security 14.30 - 15.30 Academic: Internet User's Rights (privacy and access to knowledge) 15:30 - 16:00 Coffee Break 16:00 - 17:30 Civil Society: 1. Exploring publicness' in the Right to Be Forgotten Rulings 2. Other topics 17:30 - 18:30 General: Emerging issues Any thoughts? Paul. On 18 Apr 2016, at 17:50, Kelvin Wong wrote:
Hi Paul,
Thanks for starting this conversation. APILP chair is currently Peng Hwa, and we¹d be happy to continue to support.
Peng Hwa and I discussed about the program following the MSG meeting last week and we¹ve come up with the attached program - glad that we¹ve reached a similar conclusion that we can beef up the civil society part! The ones in red are proposed and new, and I hope answers the question on the ³civil society² deficiency well. For this, we took the liberty of looking at some of the workshops that are higher ranking but fell out of the top 30, and aligns well with what we think is useful as a segment in APILP. The program is open to discussion of course, and we can float this to planning@apilp.asia (and thereafter to MSG?).
Looking at the program, since this has been decided to be a full day program on Day 0, I¹m wondering if coffee (and/or lunch) will also be provided for the participants/lecturers, as per the main conference days?
Happy to hear views. Thanks.
Regards, Kelvin
On 4/18/16, 3:04 PM, "Paul Wilson" <pwilson@apnic.net> wrote:
Hi all,
Now that we have the decision to hold APILP on Day 0, we need to finalise that schedule and announce it so that we can improve participation. We also need to finalise the programme.
I¹d like to suggest an APILP organisers¹ mailing list so that we have easier and more regular contact; it should also allow others to join. Yannis, can Dotasia set that up? something like planning@apilp.asia
On the quesiton of programme, I feel we have a deficiency with a lack of ³civil society² representation and content; so I want to propose to involve additional organisers who can contribute a unit about social issues such as freedom of expression, access, gender etc. I think this is really very necessary, and I hope we can agree to accomodate that on Day 0 as well.
For clarity, can we confirm someone to formally chair this group? Peng Hwa, is that you? Or Kelvin?
Thanks all,
Paul.
________________________________________________________________________ Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC dg@apnic.net http://www.apnic.net @apnicdg
________________________________________________________________________ Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC dg@apnic.net http://www.apnic.net @apnicdg
Thanks Yannis for this. On Paul’s note below, I think it will be great to have Chat in this too, to add more perspective. Just to point out a small typo - I think you meant "14:00 - 14:30 - Technical: Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network Security”. Revised programme looks good to me, and we can use this as the base for discussion. Peng Hwa, should we be including any others from APILP into this planning group? Thanks. Regards, Kelvin On 4/20/16, 1:32 PM, "Apilp_planning on behalf of Yannis Li" <apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia on behalf of yannis@registry.asia> wrote:
Dear All,
Just want to let you know that planning@apilp.asia has been activated.
Let me know if I should go ahead to add Chat or Paul you would talk to her first.
Thanks.
Best Regards,
Yannis Li DotAsia Organisation Ltd. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------- Address: 12F, Daily House, 35-37 Haiphong Road, Tsim Sha Tsui, Hong Kong Tel: +852 2244 7920 ︳Fax: +852 2244 7902 ︳http://www.dot.asia
On 19 Apr 2016, at 3:45 PM, Paul Wilson <pwilson@apnic.net> wrote:
Thanks kelvin and all.
Glad to see this and to know that the issue of Civil Society presence is agreed.
This programme is a great start but before setting anything in stone, I would suggest to bring the right people into this discussion. After all it is not just an issue of civil society “content” but also “participation” in this process.
I suggest Chat Garcia, who is already active on the MSG, would be the right person to invite into this group in the short term. The future particuipation in the mailing list can continue to emerge as well of course.
Are you all OK to invite Chat at this stage?
One other comment:
This agenda is very packed and I feel that the allocation of 2 90-minutes slots to the technical community is not quite fair. Perhaps if we spent 60 minutes on IANA transiti9on and then 60 on my presentation, then this would free up time for others.
If Hong is happy to be identified as “Academic” then perhaps she should join in with the technical community, with her session scheduled before the afternoon coffee break. Then, we could leave the final session (16.00-17.30) for the Civil Society issues.
It would look something like this:
09:00 - 10:30 General: 1. Introduction to Internet Governance & Multistakeholder Model 2. Introduction to APrIGF/MSG (and outcome document?)
10:30 - 11:00 Coffee Break
11:00 - 12:00 Technical: IANA transition 12:00 - 12.30 Technical: Basics of Critical Internet Resources (DNS/IP addresses etc)
12:30 - 14:00 Lunch
14:00 - 15:30 Technical: Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network Security 14.30 - 15.30 Academic: Internet User's Rights (privacy and access to knowledge)
15:30 - 16:00 Coffee Break
16:00 - 17:30 Civil Society: 1. Exploring publicness' in the Right to Be Forgotten Rulings 2. Other topics 17:30 - 18:30 General: Emerging issues
Any thoughts?
Paul.
On 18 Apr 2016, at 17:50, Kelvin Wong wrote:
Hi Paul,
Thanks for starting this conversation. APILP chair is currently Peng Hwa, and we¹d be happy to continue to support.
Peng Hwa and I discussed about the program following the MSG meeting last week and we¹ve come up with the attached program - glad that we¹ve reached a similar conclusion that we can beef up the civil society part! The ones in red are proposed and new, and I hope answers the question on the ³civil society² deficiency well. For this, we took the liberty of looking at some of the workshops that are higher ranking but fell out of the top 30, and aligns well with what we think is useful as a segment in APILP. The program is open to discussion of course, and we can float this to planning@apilp.asia (and thereafter to MSG?).
Looking at the program, since this has been decided to be a full day program on Day 0, I¹m wondering if coffee (and/or lunch) will also be provided for the participants/lecturers, as per the main conference days?
Happy to hear views. Thanks.
Regards, Kelvin
On 4/18/16, 3:04 PM, "Paul Wilson" <pwilson@apnic.net> wrote:
Hi all,
Now that we have the decision to hold APILP on Day 0, we need to finalise that schedule and announce it so that we can improve participation. We also need to finalise the programme.
I¹d like to suggest an APILP organisers¹ mailing list so that we have easier and more regular contact; it should also allow others to join. Yannis, can Dotasia set that up? something like planning@apilp.asia
On the quesiton of programme, I feel we have a deficiency with a lack of ³civil society² representation and content; so I want to propose to involve additional organisers who can contribute a unit about social issues such as freedom of expression, access, gender etc. I think this is really very necessary, and I hope we can agree to accomodate that on Day 0 as well.
For clarity, can we confirm someone to formally chair this group? Peng Hwa, is that you? Or Kelvin?
Thanks all,
Paul.
________________________________________________________________________ Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC dg@apnic.net http://www.apnic.net @apnicdg
________________________________________________________________________ Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC dg@apnic.net http://www.apnic.net @apnicdg
_______________________________________________ Apilp_planning mailing list Apilp_planning@jerry.dot.asia https://mailman.dotasia.org/mailman/listinfo/apilp_planning
Hi all, I’ve reached out to Chat separately regarding the APILP planning team, and am awaiting a response. I’ve highlighted the need for civil society perspective. Meanwhile (and if there is no more input on the program from this group between now and tomorrow), I suppose we can run through the program during tomorrow’s MSG meeting, and seek views. I’m not sure if the local hosts are on this list already, as we still needed to have some clarity on the availability of coffee break/lunch. Otherwise these can be raised tomorrow too. =====Proposed program for Day 0========== 09:00 - 10:30 General: 1. Introduction to Internet Governance & Multistakeholder Model 2. Introduction to APrIGF/MSG (and outcome document?) 10:30 - 11:00 Coffee Break 11:00 - 12:00 Technical: IANA transition 12:00 - 12.30 Technical: Basics of Critical Internet Resources (DNS/IP addresses etc) 12:30 - 14:00 Lunch 14:00 - 14:30 Technical: Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network Security 14.30 - 15.30 Academic: Internet User's Rights (privacy and access to knowledge) 15:30 - 16:00 Coffee Break 16:00 - 17:30 Civil Society: 1. Exploring publicness' in the Right to Be Forgotten Rulings 2. Other topics 17:30 - 18:30 General: Emerging issues =====Proposed program for Day 0========== Regards, Kelvin On 4/20/16, 2:32 PM, "Apilp_planning on behalf of Kelvin Wong" <apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia on behalf of kelvin.wong@icann.org> wrote:
Thanks Yannis for this.
On Paul’s note below, I think it will be great to have Chat in this too, to add more perspective.
Just to point out a small typo - I think you meant "14:00 - 14:30 - Technical: Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network Security”. Revised programme looks good to me, and we can use this as the base for discussion.
Peng Hwa, should we be including any others from APILP into this planning group?
Thanks.
Regards, Kelvin
On 4/20/16, 1:32 PM, "Apilp_planning on behalf of Yannis Li" <apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia on behalf of yannis@registry.asia> wrote:
Dear All,
Just want to let you know that planning@apilp.asia has been activated.
Let me know if I should go ahead to add Chat or Paul you would talk to her first.
Thanks.
Best Regards,
Yannis Li DotAsia Organisation Ltd. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------- Address: 12F, Daily House, 35-37 Haiphong Road, Tsim Sha Tsui, Hong Kong Tel: +852 2244 7920 ︳Fax: +852 2244 7902 ︳http://www.dot.asia
On 19 Apr 2016, at 3:45 PM, Paul Wilson <pwilson@apnic.net> wrote:
Thanks kelvin and all.
Glad to see this and to know that the issue of Civil Society presence is agreed.
This programme is a great start but before setting anything in stone, I would suggest to bring the right people into this discussion. After all it is not just an issue of civil society “content” but also “participation” in this process.
I suggest Chat Garcia, who is already active on the MSG, would be the right person to invite into this group in the short term. The future particuipation in the mailing list can continue to emerge as well of course.
Are you all OK to invite Chat at this stage?
One other comment:
This agenda is very packed and I feel that the allocation of 2 90-minutes slots to the technical community is not quite fair. Perhaps if we spent 60 minutes on IANA transiti9on and then 60 on my presentation, then this would free up time for others.
If Hong is happy to be identified as “Academic” then perhaps she should join in with the technical community, with her session scheduled before the afternoon coffee break. Then, we could leave the final session (16.00-17.30) for the Civil Society issues.
It would look something like this:
09:00 - 10:30 General: 1. Introduction to Internet Governance & Multistakeholder Model 2. Introduction to APrIGF/MSG (and outcome document?)
10:30 - 11:00 Coffee Break
11:00 - 12:00 Technical: IANA transition 12:00 - 12.30 Technical: Basics of Critical Internet Resources (DNS/IP addresses etc)
12:30 - 14:00 Lunch
14:00 - 15:30 Technical: Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network Security 14.30 - 15.30 Academic: Internet User's Rights (privacy and access to knowledge)
15:30 - 16:00 Coffee Break
16:00 - 17:30 Civil Society: 1. Exploring publicness' in the Right to Be Forgotten Rulings 2. Other topics 17:30 - 18:30 General: Emerging issues
Any thoughts?
Paul.
On 18 Apr 2016, at 17:50, Kelvin Wong wrote:
Hi Paul,
Thanks for starting this conversation. APILP chair is currently Peng Hwa, and we¹d be happy to continue to support.
Peng Hwa and I discussed about the program following the MSG meeting last week and we¹ve come up with the attached program - glad that we¹ve reached a similar conclusion that we can beef up the civil society part! The ones in red are proposed and new, and I hope answers the question on the ³civil society² deficiency well. For this, we took the liberty of looking at some of the workshops that are higher ranking but fell out of the top 30, and aligns well with what we think is useful as a segment in APILP. The program is open to discussion of course, and we can float this to planning@apilp.asia (and thereafter to MSG?).
Looking at the program, since this has been decided to be a full day program on Day 0, I¹m wondering if coffee (and/or lunch) will also be provided for the participants/lecturers, as per the main conference days?
Happy to hear views. Thanks.
Regards, Kelvin
On 4/18/16, 3:04 PM, "Paul Wilson" <pwilson@apnic.net> wrote:
Hi all,
Now that we have the decision to hold APILP on Day 0, we need to finalise that schedule and announce it so that we can improve participation. We also need to finalise the programme.
I¹d like to suggest an APILP organisers¹ mailing list so that we have easier and more regular contact; it should also allow others to join. Yannis, can Dotasia set that up? something like planning@apilp.asia
On the quesiton of programme, I feel we have a deficiency with a lack of ³civil society² representation and content; so I want to propose to involve additional organisers who can contribute a unit about social issues such as freedom of expression, access, gender etc. I think this is really very necessary, and I hope we can agree to accomodate that on Day 0 as well.
For clarity, can we confirm someone to formally chair this group? Peng Hwa, is that you? Or Kelvin?
Thanks all,
Paul.
_______________________________________________________________________ _ Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC dg@apnic.net http://www.apnic.net @apnicdg
________________________________________________________________________ Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC dg@apnic.net http://www.apnic.net @apnicdg
_______________________________________________ Apilp_planning mailing list Apilp_planning@jerry.dot.asia https://mailman.dotasia.org/mailman/listinfo/apilp_planning
Hi All, I have added Hong and Izumi onto the list per Kelvin’s request. Please find below the current membership of the list: - Paul Wilson - Sylvia Cadena - Kelvin Wong - Jia-Rong Low - PengHwa Ang - Hong Xue - Izumi Aizu - Rajnesh Singh - Edmon Chung - Kuowei Wu - Lynn (Local Host) - Sophie (Local Host) - Sean (Local Host) - Yannis (Secretariat) - Maggie (Secretariat) Once Chat reply, I will add her in as well. Thanks. Best Regards, Yannis Li DotAsia Organisation Ltd. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Address: 12F, Daily House, 35-37 Haiphong Road, Tsim Sha Tsui, Hong Kong Tel: +852 2244 7920 ︳Fax: +852 2244 7902 ︳http://www.dot.asia On 26 Apr 2016, at 10:50 AM, Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> wrote: Hi all, I’ve reached out to Chat separately regarding the APILP planning team, and am awaiting a response. I’ve highlighted the need for civil society perspective. Meanwhile (and if there is no more input on the program from this group between now and tomorrow), I suppose we can run through the program during tomorrow’s MSG meeting, and seek views. I’m not sure if the local hosts are on this list already, as we still needed to have some clarity on the availability of coffee break/lunch. Otherwise these can be raised tomorrow too. =====Proposed program for Day 0========== 09:00 - 10:30 General: 1. Introduction to Internet Governance & Multistakeholder Model 2. Introduction to APrIGF/MSG (and outcome document?) 10:30 - 11:00 Coffee Break 11:00 - 12:00 Technical: IANA transition 12:00 - 12.30 Technical: Basics of Critical Internet Resources (DNS/IP addresses etc) 12:30 - 14:00 Lunch 14:00 - 14:30 Technical: Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network Security 14.30 - 15.30 Academic: Internet User's Rights (privacy and access to knowledge) 15:30 - 16:00 Coffee Break 16:00 - 17:30 Civil Society: 1. Exploring publicness' in the Right to Be Forgotten Rulings 2. Other topics 17:30 - 18:30 General: Emerging issues =====Proposed program for Day 0========== Regards, Kelvin On 4/20/16, 2:32 PM, "Apilp_planning on behalf of Kelvin Wong" <apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia on behalf of kelvin.wong@icann.org> wrote:
Thanks Yannis for this.
On Paul’s note below, I think it will be great to have Chat in this too, to add more perspective.
Just to point out a small typo - I think you meant "14:00 - 14:30 - Technical: Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network Security”. Revised programme looks good to me, and we can use this as the base for discussion.
Peng Hwa, should we be including any others from APILP into this planning group?
Thanks.
Regards, Kelvin
On 4/20/16, 1:32 PM, "Apilp_planning on behalf of Yannis Li" <apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia on behalf of yannis@registry.asia> wrote:
Dear All,
Just want to let you know that planning@apilp.asia has been activated.
Let me know if I should go ahead to add Chat or Paul you would talk to her first.
Thanks.
Best Regards,
Yannis Li DotAsia Organisation Ltd. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------- Address: 12F, Daily House, 35-37 Haiphong Road, Tsim Sha Tsui, Hong Kong Tel: +852 2244 7920 ︳Fax: +852 2244 7902 ︳http://www.dot.asia
On 19 Apr 2016, at 3:45 PM, Paul Wilson <pwilson@apnic.net> wrote:
Thanks kelvin and all.
Glad to see this and to know that the issue of Civil Society presence is agreed.
This programme is a great start but before setting anything in stone, I would suggest to bring the right people into this discussion. After all it is not just an issue of civil society “content” but also “participation” in this process.
I suggest Chat Garcia, who is already active on the MSG, would be the right person to invite into this group in the short term. The future particuipation in the mailing list can continue to emerge as well of course.
Are you all OK to invite Chat at this stage?
One other comment:
This agenda is very packed and I feel that the allocation of 2 90-minutes slots to the technical community is not quite fair. Perhaps if we spent 60 minutes on IANA transiti9on and then 60 on my presentation, then this would free up time for others.
If Hong is happy to be identified as “Academic” then perhaps she should join in with the technical community, with her session scheduled before the afternoon coffee break. Then, we could leave the final session (16.00-17.30) for the Civil Society issues.
It would look something like this:
09:00 - 10:30 General: 1. Introduction to Internet Governance & Multistakeholder Model 2. Introduction to APrIGF/MSG (and outcome document?)
10:30 - 11:00 Coffee Break
11:00 - 12:00 Technical: IANA transition 12:00 - 12.30 Technical: Basics of Critical Internet Resources (DNS/IP addresses etc)
12:30 - 14:00 Lunch
14:00 - 15:30 Technical: Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network Security 14.30 - 15.30 Academic: Internet User's Rights (privacy and access to knowledge)
15:30 - 16:00 Coffee Break
16:00 - 17:30 Civil Society: 1. Exploring publicness' in the Right to Be Forgotten Rulings 2. Other topics 17:30 - 18:30 General: Emerging issues
Any thoughts?
Paul.
On 18 Apr 2016, at 17:50, Kelvin Wong wrote:
Hi Paul,
Thanks for starting this conversation. APILP chair is currently Peng Hwa, and we¹d be happy to continue to support.
Peng Hwa and I discussed about the program following the MSG meeting last week and we¹ve come up with the attached program - glad that we¹ve reached a similar conclusion that we can beef up the civil society part! The ones in red are proposed and new, and I hope answers the question on the ³civil society² deficiency well. For this, we took the liberty of looking at some of the workshops that are higher ranking but fell out of the top 30, and aligns well with what we think is useful as a segment in APILP. The program is open to discussion of course, and we can float this to planning@apilp.asia (and thereafter to MSG?).
Looking at the program, since this has been decided to be a full day program on Day 0, I¹m wondering if coffee (and/or lunch) will also be provided for the participants/lecturers, as per the main conference days?
Happy to hear views. Thanks.
Regards, Kelvin
On 4/18/16, 3:04 PM, "Paul Wilson" <pwilson@apnic.net> wrote:
Hi all,
Now that we have the decision to hold APILP on Day 0, we need to finalise that schedule and announce it so that we can improve participation. We also need to finalise the programme.
I¹d like to suggest an APILP organisers¹ mailing list so that we have easier and more regular contact; it should also allow others to join. Yannis, can Dotasia set that up? something like planning@apilp.asia
On the quesiton of programme, I feel we have a deficiency with a lack of ³civil society² representation and content; so I want to propose to involve additional organisers who can contribute a unit about social issues such as freedom of expression, access, gender etc. I think this is really very necessary, and I hope we can agree to accomodate that on Day 0 as well.
For clarity, can we confirm someone to formally chair this group? Peng Hwa, is that you? Or Kelvin?
Thanks all,
Paul.
_______________________________________________________________________ _ Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC dg@apnic.net http://www.apnic.net @apnicdg
________________________________________________________________________ Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC dg@apnic.net http://www.apnic.net @apnicdg
_______________________________________________ Apilp_planning mailing list Apilp_planning@jerry.dot.asia https://mailman.dotasia.org/mailman/listinfo/apilp_planning
Hi all, I have also sent email to Chat and ask her to confirm the APC rep(s) for APILP. All the best Paul. On 26 Apr 2016, at 19:48, Yannis Li wrote:
Hi All,
I have added Hong and Izumi onto the list per Kelvin’s request.
Please find below the current membership of the list: - Paul Wilson - Sylvia Cadena - Kelvin Wong - Jia-Rong Low - PengHwa Ang - Hong Xue - Izumi Aizu - Rajnesh Singh - Edmon Chung - Kuowei Wu - Lynn (Local Host) - Sophie (Local Host) - Sean (Local Host) - Yannis (Secretariat) - Maggie (Secretariat)
Once Chat reply, I will add her in as well.
Thanks.
Best Regards,
Yannis Li DotAsia Organisation Ltd. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Address: 12F, Daily House, 35-37 Haiphong Road, Tsim Sha Tsui, Hong Kong Tel: +852 2244 7920 ︳Fax: +852 2244 7902 ︳http://www.dot.asia
On 26 Apr 2016, at 10:50 AM, Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> wrote:
Hi all,
I’ve reached out to Chat separately regarding the APILP planning team, and am awaiting a response. I’ve highlighted the need for civil society perspective.
Meanwhile (and if there is no more input on the program from this group between now and tomorrow), I suppose we can run through the program during tomorrow’s MSG meeting, and seek views.
I’m not sure if the local hosts are on this list already, as we still needed to have some clarity on the availability of coffee break/lunch. Otherwise these can be raised tomorrow too.
=====Proposed program for Day 0==========
09:00 - 10:30 General: 1. Introduction to Internet Governance & Multistakeholder Model 2. Introduction to APrIGF/MSG (and outcome document?)
10:30 - 11:00 Coffee Break
11:00 - 12:00 Technical: IANA transition 12:00 - 12.30 Technical: Basics of Critical Internet Resources (DNS/IP addresses etc)
12:30 - 14:00 Lunch
14:00 - 14:30 Technical: Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network Security 14.30 - 15.30 Academic: Internet User's Rights (privacy and access to knowledge)
15:30 - 16:00 Coffee Break
16:00 - 17:30 Civil Society: 1. Exploring publicness' in the Right to Be Forgotten Rulings 2. Other topics
17:30 - 18:30 General: Emerging issues
=====Proposed program for Day 0==========
Regards, Kelvin
On 4/20/16, 2:32 PM, "Apilp_planning on behalf of Kelvin Wong" <apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia on behalf of kelvin.wong@icann.org> wrote:
Thanks Yannis for this.
On Paul’s note below, I think it will be great to have Chat in this too, to add more perspective.
Just to point out a small typo - I think you meant "14:00 - 14:30 - Technical: Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network Security”. Revised programme looks good to me, and we can use this as the base for discussion.
Peng Hwa, should we be including any others from APILP into this planning group?
Thanks.
Regards, Kelvin
On 4/20/16, 1:32 PM, "Apilp_planning on behalf of Yannis Li" <apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia on behalf of yannis@registry.asia> wrote:
Dear All,
Just want to let you know that planning@apilp.asia has been activated.
Let me know if I should go ahead to add Chat or Paul you would talk to her first.
Thanks.
Best Regards,
Yannis Li DotAsia Organisation Ltd. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------- Address: 12F, Daily House, 35-37 Haiphong Road, Tsim Sha Tsui, Hong Kong Tel: +852 2244 7920 ︳Fax: +852 2244 7902 ︳http://www.dot.asia
On 19 Apr 2016, at 3:45 PM, Paul Wilson <pwilson@apnic.net> wrote:
Thanks kelvin and all.
Glad to see this and to know that the issue of Civil Society presence is agreed.
This programme is a great start but before setting anything in stone, I would suggest to bring the right people into this discussion. After all it is not just an issue of civil society “content” but also “participation” in this process.
I suggest Chat Garcia, who is already active on the MSG, would be the right person to invite into this group in the short term. The future particuipation in the mailing list can continue to emerge as well of course.
Are you all OK to invite Chat at this stage?
One other comment:
This agenda is very packed and I feel that the allocation of 2 90-minutes slots to the technical community is not quite fair. Perhaps if we spent 60 minutes on IANA transiti9on and then 60 on my presentation, then this would free up time for others.
If Hong is happy to be identified as “Academic” then perhaps she should join in with the technical community, with her session scheduled before the afternoon coffee break. Then, we could leave the final session (16.00-17.30) for the Civil Society issues.
It would look something like this:
09:00 - 10:30 General: 1. Introduction to Internet Governance & Multistakeholder Model 2. Introduction to APrIGF/MSG (and outcome document?)
10:30 - 11:00 Coffee Break
11:00 - 12:00 Technical: IANA transition 12:00 - 12.30 Technical: Basics of Critical Internet Resources (DNS/IP addresses etc)
12:30 - 14:00 Lunch
14:00 - 15:30 Technical: Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network Security 14.30 - 15.30 Academic: Internet User's Rights (privacy and access to knowledge)
15:30 - 16:00 Coffee Break
16:00 - 17:30 Civil Society: 1. Exploring publicness' in the Right to Be Forgotten Rulings 2. Other topics 17:30 - 18:30 General: Emerging issues
Any thoughts?
Paul.
On 18 Apr 2016, at 17:50, Kelvin Wong wrote:
Hi Paul,
Thanks for starting this conversation. APILP chair is currently Peng Hwa, and we¹d be happy to continue to support.
Peng Hwa and I discussed about the program following the MSG meeting last week and we¹ve come up with the attached program - glad that we¹ve reached a similar conclusion that we can beef up the civil society part! The ones in red are proposed and new, and I hope answers the question on the ³civil society² deficiency well. For this, we took the liberty of looking at some of the workshops that are higher ranking but fell out of the top 30, and aligns well with what we think is useful as a segment in APILP. The program is open to discussion of course, and we can float this to planning@apilp.asia (and thereafter to MSG?).
Looking at the program, since this has been decided to be a full day program on Day 0, I¹m wondering if coffee (and/or lunch) will also be provided for the participants/lecturers, as per the main conference days?
Happy to hear views. Thanks.
Regards, Kelvin
On 4/18/16, 3:04 PM, "Paul Wilson" <pwilson@apnic.net> wrote:
Hi all,
Now that we have the decision to hold APILP on Day 0, we need to finalise that schedule and announce it so that we can improve participation. We also need to finalise the programme.
I¹d like to suggest an APILP organisers¹ mailing list so that we have easier and more regular contact; it should also allow others to join. Yannis, can Dotasia set that up? something like planning@apilp.asia
On the quesiton of programme, I feel we have a deficiency with a lack of ³civil society² representation and content; so I want to propose to involve additional organisers who can contribute a unit about social issues such as freedom of expression, access, gender etc. I think this is really very necessary, and I hope we can agree to accomodate that on Day 0 as well.
For clarity, can we confirm someone to formally chair this group? Peng Hwa, is that you? Or Kelvin?
Thanks all,
Paul.
_______________________________________________________________________ _ Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC dg@apnic.net http://www.apnic.net @apnicdg
________________________________________________________________________ Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC dg@apnic.net http://www.apnic.net @apnicdg
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Hi Paul, Thanks for this. Chat and Jac have been recently added to this list, I think. We’re happy to have them here and see how we can get APC’s help with planning the program and leading some segments if possible, specifically the part on civil society, as below. Suggestions are of course welcomed. 16:00 - 17:30 Civil Society: 1. Right to Be Forgotten Rulings (TBC, no speakers identified yet. I suppose we can still determine whether we want to go ahead with this topic or choose others) 2. Other topics Regards, Kelvin On 4/30/16, 10:48 PM, "Apilp_planning on behalf of Paul Wilson" <apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia on behalf of pwilson@apnic.net> wrote:
Hi all,
I have also sent email to Chat and ask her to confirm the APC rep(s) for APILP.
All the best
Paul.
On 26 Apr 2016, at 19:48, Yannis Li wrote:
Hi All,
I have added Hong and Izumi onto the list per Kelvin’s request.
Please find below the current membership of the list: - Paul Wilson - Sylvia Cadena - Kelvin Wong - Jia-Rong Low - PengHwa Ang - Hong Xue - Izumi Aizu - Rajnesh Singh - Edmon Chung - Kuowei Wu - Lynn (Local Host) - Sophie (Local Host) - Sean (Local Host) - Yannis (Secretariat) - Maggie (Secretariat)
Once Chat reply, I will add her in as well.
Thanks.
Best Regards,
Yannis Li DotAsia Organisation Ltd.
------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------- Address: 12F, Daily House, 35-37 Haiphong Road, Tsim Sha Tsui, Hong Kong Tel: +852 2244 7920 ︳Fax: +852 2244 7902 ︳http://www.dot.asia
On 26 Apr 2016, at 10:50 AM, Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> wrote:
Hi all,
I’ve reached out to Chat separately regarding the APILP planning team, and am awaiting a response. I’ve highlighted the need for civil society perspective.
Meanwhile (and if there is no more input on the program from this group between now and tomorrow), I suppose we can run through the program during tomorrow’s MSG meeting, and seek views.
I’m not sure if the local hosts are on this list already, as we still needed to have some clarity on the availability of coffee break/lunch. Otherwise these can be raised tomorrow too.
=====Proposed program for Day 0==========
09:00 - 10:30 General: 1. Introduction to Internet Governance & Multistakeholder Model 2. Introduction to APrIGF/MSG (and outcome document?)
10:30 - 11:00 Coffee Break
11:00 - 12:00 Technical: IANA transition 12:00 - 12.30 Technical: Basics of Critical Internet Resources (DNS/IP addresses etc)
12:30 - 14:00 Lunch
14:00 - 14:30 Technical: Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network Security 14.30 - 15.30 Academic: Internet User's Rights (privacy and access to knowledge)
15:30 - 16:00 Coffee Break
2
17:30 - 18:30 General: Emerging issues
=====Proposed program for Day 0==========
Regards, Kelvin
On 4/20/16, 2:32 PM, "Apilp_planning on behalf of Kelvin Wong" <apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia on behalf of kelvin.wong@icann.org> wrote:
Thanks Yannis for this.
On Paul’s note below, I think it will be great to have Chat in this too, to add more perspective.
Just to point out a small typo - I think you meant "14:00 - 14:30 - Technical: Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network Security”. Revised programme looks good to me, and we can use this as the base for discussion.
Peng Hwa, should we be including any others from APILP into this planning group?
Thanks.
Regards, Kelvin
On 4/20/16, 1:32 PM, "Apilp_planning on behalf of Yannis Li" <apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia on behalf of yannis@registry.asia> wrote:
Dear All,
Just want to let you know that planning@apilp.asia has been activated.
Let me know if I should go ahead to add Chat or Paul you would talk to her first.
Thanks.
Best Regards,
Yannis Li DotAsia Organisation Ltd.
----------------------------------------------------------------------- -- - ---------------------- Address: 12F, Daily House, 35-37 Haiphong Road, Tsim Sha Tsui, Hong Kong Tel: +852 2244 7920 ︳Fax: +852 2244 7902 ︳http://www.dot.asia
On 19 Apr 2016, at 3:45 PM, Paul Wilson <pwilson@apnic.net> wrote:
Thanks kelvin and all.
Glad to see this and to know that the issue of Civil Society presence is agreed.
This programme is a great start but before setting anything in stone, I would suggest to bring the right people into this discussion. After all it is not just an issue of civil society “content” but also “participation” in this process.
I suggest Chat Garcia, who is already active on the MSG, would be the right person to invite into this group in the short term. The future particuipation in the mailing list can continue to emerge as well of course.
Are you all OK to invite Chat at this stage?
One other comment:
This agenda is very packed and I feel that the allocation of 2 90-minutes slots to the technical community is not quite fair. Perhaps if we spent 60 minutes on IANA transiti9on and then 60 on my presentation, then this would free up time for others.
If Hong is happy to be identified as “Academic” then perhaps she should join in with the technical community, with her session scheduled before the afternoon coffee break. Then, we could leave the final session (16.00-17.30) for the Civil Society issues.
It would look something like this:
09:00 - 10:30 General: 1. Introduction to Internet Governance & Multistakeholder Model 2. Introduction to APrIGF/MSG (and outcome document?)
10:30 - 11:00 Coffee Break
11:00 - 12:00 Technical: IANA transition 12:00 - 12.30 Technical: Basics of Critical Internet Resources (DNS/IP addresses etc)
12:30 - 14:00 Lunch
14:00 - 15:30 Technical: Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network Security 14.30 - 15.30 Academic: Internet User's Rights (privacy and access to knowledge)
15:30 - 16:00 Coffee Break
16:00 - 17:30 Civil Society: 1. Exploring publicness' in the Right to Be Forgotten Rulings 2. Other topics 17:30 - 18:30 General: Emerging issues
Any thoughts?
Paul.
On 18 Apr 2016, at 17:50, Kelvin Wong wrote:
Hi Paul,
Thanks for starting this conversation. APILP chair is currently Peng Hwa, and we¹d be happy to continue to support.
Peng Hwa and I discussed about the program following the MSG meeting last week and we¹ve come up with the attached program - glad that we¹ve reached a similar conclusion that we can beef up the civil society part! The ones in red are proposed and new, and I hope answers the question on the ³civil society² deficiency well. For this, we took the liberty of looking at some of the workshops that are higher ranking but fell out of the top 30, and aligns well with what we think is useful as a segment in APILP. The program is open to discussion of course, and we can float this to planning@apilp.asia (and thereafter to MSG?).
Looking at the program, since this has been decided to be a full day program on Day 0, I¹m wondering if coffee (and/or lunch) will also be provided for the participants/lecturers, as per the main conference days?
Happy to hear views. Thanks.
Regards, Kelvin
On 4/18/16, 3:04 PM, "Paul Wilson" <pwilson@apnic.net> wrote:
Hi all,
Now that we have the decision to hold APILP on Day 0, we need to finalise that schedule and announce it so that we can improve participation. We also need to finalise the programme.
I¹d like to suggest an APILP organisers¹ mailing list so that we have easier and more regular contact; it should also allow others to join. Yannis, can Dotasia set that up? something like planning@apilp.asia
On the quesiton of programme, I feel we have a deficiency with a lack of ³civil society² representation and content; so I want to propose to involve additional organisers who can contribute a unit about social issues such as freedom of expression, access, gender etc. I think this is really very necessary, and I hope we can agree to accomodate that on Day 0 as well.
For clarity, can we confirm someone to formally chair this group? Peng Hwa, is that you? Or Kelvin?
Thanks all,
Paul.
_____________________________________________________________________ __ _ Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC dg@apnic.net http://www.apnic.net @apnicdg
_______________________________________________________________________ _ Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC dg@apnic.net http://www.apnic.net @apnicdg
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________________________________________________________________________ Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC dg@apnic.net http://www.apnic.net @apnicdg
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Anything I can help for APILP? Kuowei Wu Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> 於 2016年4月26日 星期二寫道：
Hi all,
I’ve reached out to Chat separately regarding the APILP planning team, and am awaiting a response. I’ve highlighted the need for civil society perspective.
Meanwhile (and if there is no more input on the program from this group between now and tomorrow), I suppose we can run through the program during tomorrow’s MSG meeting, and seek views.
I’m not sure if the local hosts are on this list already, as we still needed to have some clarity on the availability of coffee break/lunch. Otherwise these can be raised tomorrow too.
=====Proposed program for Day 0==========
09:00 - 10:30 General: 1. Introduction to Internet Governance & Multistakeholder Model 2. Introduction to APrIGF/MSG (and outcome document?)
10:30 - 11:00 Coffee Break
11:00 - 12:00 Technical: IANA transition 12:00 - 12.30 Technical: Basics of Critical Internet Resources (DNS/IP addresses etc)
12:30 - 14:00 Lunch
14:00 - 14:30 Technical: Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network Security 14.30 - 15.30 Academic: Internet User's Rights (privacy and access to knowledge)
15:30 - 16:00 Coffee Break
16:00 - 17:30 Civil Society: 1. Exploring publicness' in the Right to Be Forgotten Rulings 2. Other topics
17:30 - 18:30 General: Emerging issues
=====Proposed program for Day 0==========
Regards, Kelvin
On 4/20/16, 2:32 PM, "Apilp_planning on behalf of Kelvin Wong" <apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia <javascript:;> on behalf of kelvin.wong@icann.org <javascript:;>> wrote:
Thanks Yannis for this.
On Paul’s note below, I think it will be great to have Chat in this too, to add more perspective.
Just to point out a small typo - I think you meant "14:00 - 14:30 - Technical: Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network Security”. Revised programme looks good to me, and we can use this as the base for discussion.
Peng Hwa, should we be including any others from APILP into this planning group?
Thanks.
Regards, Kelvin
On 4/20/16, 1:32 PM, "Apilp_planning on behalf of Yannis Li" <apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia <javascript:;> on behalf of yannis@registry.asia <javascript:;>> wrote:
Dear All,
Just want to let you know that planning@apilp.asia <javascript:;> has been activated.
Let me know if I should go ahead to add Chat or Paul you would talk to her first.
Thanks.
Best Regards,
Yannis Li DotAsia Organisation Ltd. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------- Address: 12F, Daily House, 35-37 Haiphong Road, Tsim Sha Tsui, Hong Kong Tel: +852 2244 7920 ︳Fax: +852 2244 7902 ︳http://www.dot.asia
On 19 Apr 2016, at 3:45 PM, Paul Wilson <pwilson@apnic.net <javascript:;>> wrote:
Thanks kelvin and all.
Glad to see this and to know that the issue of Civil Society presence is agreed.
This programme is a great start but before setting anything in stone, I would suggest to bring the right people into this discussion. After all it is not just an issue of civil society “content” but also “participation” in this process.
I suggest Chat Garcia, who is already active on the MSG, would be the right person to invite into this group in the short term. The future particuipation in the mailing list can continue to emerge as well of course.
Are you all OK to invite Chat at this stage?
One other comment:
This agenda is very packed and I feel that the allocation of 2 90-minutes slots to the technical community is not quite fair. Perhaps if we spent 60 minutes on IANA transiti9on and then 60 on my presentation, then this would free up time for others.
If Hong is happy to be identified as “Academic” then perhaps she should join in with the technical community, with her session scheduled before the afternoon coffee break. Then, we could leave the final session (16.00-17.30) for the Civil Society issues.
It would look something like this:
09:00 - 10:30 General: 1. Introduction to Internet Governance & Multistakeholder Model 2. Introduction to APrIGF/MSG (and outcome document?)
10:30 - 11:00 Coffee Break
11:00 - 12:00 Technical: IANA transition 12:00 - 12.30 Technical: Basics of Critical Internet Resources (DNS/IP addresses etc)
12:30 - 14:00 Lunch
14:00 - 15:30 Technical: Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network Security 14.30 - 15.30 Academic: Internet User's Rights (privacy and access to knowledge)
15:30 - 16:00 Coffee Break
16:00 - 17:30 Civil Society: 1. Exploring publicness' in the Right to Be Forgotten Rulings 2. Other topics 17:30 - 18:30 General: Emerging issues
Any thoughts?
Paul.
On 18 Apr 2016, at 17:50, Kelvin Wong wrote:
Hi Paul,
Thanks for starting this conversation. APILP chair is currently Peng Hwa, and we¹d be happy to continue to support.
Peng Hwa and I discussed about the program following the MSG meeting last week and we¹ve come up with the attached program - glad that we¹ve reached a similar conclusion that we can beef up the civil society part! The ones in red are proposed and new, and I hope answers the question on the ³civil society² deficiency well. For this, we took the liberty of looking at some of the workshops that are higher ranking but fell out of the top 30, and aligns well with what we think is useful as a segment in APILP. The program is open to discussion of course, and we can float this to planning@apilp.asia <javascript:;> (and thereafter to MSG?).
Looking at the program, since this has been decided to be a full day program on Day 0, I¹m wondering if coffee (and/or lunch) will also be provided for the participants/lecturers, as per the main conference days?
Happy to hear views. Thanks.
Regards, Kelvin
On 4/18/16, 3:04 PM, "Paul Wilson" <pwilson@apnic.net <javascript:;>> wrote:
Hi all,
Now that we have the decision to hold APILP on Day 0, we need to finalise that schedule and announce it so that we can improve participation. We also need to finalise the programme.
I¹d like to suggest an APILP organisers¹ mailing list so that we have easier and more regular contact; it should also allow others to join. Yannis, can Dotasia set that up? something like planning@apilp.asia <javascript:;>
On the quesiton of programme, I feel we have a deficiency with a lack of ³civil society² representation and content; so I want to propose to involve additional organisers who can contribute a unit about social issues such as freedom of expression, access, gender etc. I think this is really very necessary, and I hope we can agree to accomodate that on Day 0 as well.
For clarity, can we confirm someone to formally chair this group? Peng Hwa, is that you? Or Kelvin?
Thanks all,
Paul.
_______________________________________________________________________ _ Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC dg@apnic.net <javascript:;> http://www.apnic.net @apnicdg
________________________________________________________________________ Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC dg@apnic.net <javascript:;> http://www.apnic.net @apnicdg
_______________________________________________ Apilp_planning mailing list Apilp_planning@jerry.dot.asia <javascript:;> https://mailman.dotasia.org/mailman/listinfo/apilp_planning
Thanks Kuowei, it will be good if we could spread the word about this day 0 activity, and get more conference attendees, especially new(er)comers, to make arrangements to come one day earlier for this. Some related logistic considerations (for local host): - If the APrIGF 2016 website and registration page could have some information about the Day 0 APILP program, while the planning team continues to firm up the program, that will be great. Sorry if I’ve missed them. - At MSG, there was a brief discussion on the room capacity. I think it was a good sized room of about 80pax for Day 0. However, as some pointed out, if we have 60 yIGF participants (not sure I heard this one correctly), and with the 20+ fellows, there will be more than 80 participants, at least at certain times? In that case, we may need to have a bigger size room, since there would be other participants/newcomers to the APILP that is not yIGF or fellows too (including some of us here whom I’m sure would like to be in the room) :) How possible is that? Thanks! Regards, Kelvin From: Kuo-Wei Wu <kuoweiwu@gmail.com> Date: Saturday, April 30, 2016 at 11:12 PM To: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> Cc: Yannis Li <yannis@registry.asia>, "planning@apilp.asia" <planning@apilp.asia> Subject: Re: [Apilp_planning] APILP preparations Anything I can help for APILP? Kuowei Wu Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> 於 2016年4月26日 星期二寫道：
Hi all,
I’ve reached out to Chat separately regarding the APILP planning team, and am awaiting a response. I’ve highlighted the need for civil society perspective.
Meanwhile (and if there is no more input on the program from this group between now and tomorrow), I suppose we can run through the program during tomorrow’s MSG meeting, and seek views.
I’m not sure if the local hosts are on this list already, as we still needed to have some clarity on the availability of coffee break/lunch. Otherwise these can be raised tomorrow too.
=====Proposed program for Day 0==========
09:00 - 10:30 General: 1. Introduction to Internet Governance & Multistakeholder Model 2. Introduction to APrIGF/MSG (and outcome document?)
10:30 - 11:00 Coffee Break
11:00 - 12:00 Technical: IANA transition 12:00 - 12.30 Technical: Basics of Critical Internet Resources (DNS/IP addresses etc)
12:30 - 14:00 Lunch
14:00 - 14:30 Technical: Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network Security 14.30 - 15.30 Academic: Internet User's Rights (privacy and access to knowledge)
15:30 - 16:00 Coffee Break
16:00 - 17:30 Civil Society: 1. Exploring publicness' in the Right to Be Forgotten Rulings 2. Other topics
17:30 - 18:30 General: Emerging issues
=====Proposed program for Day 0==========
Regards, Kelvin
On 4/20/16, 2:32 PM, "Apilp_planning on behalf of Kelvin Wong" <apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia <javascript:;> on behalf of kelvin.wong@icann.org <javascript:;> > wrote:
Thanks Yannis for this.
On Paul’s note below, I think it will be great to have Chat in this too, to add more perspective.
Just to point out a small typo - I think you meant "14:00 - 14:30 - Technical: Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network Security”. Revised programme looks good to me, and we can use this as the base for discussion.
Peng Hwa, should we be including any others from APILP into this planning group?
Thanks.
Regards, Kelvin
On 4/20/16, 1:32 PM, "Apilp_planning on behalf of Yannis Li" <apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia <javascript:;> on behalf of yannis@registry.asia <javascript:;> > wrote:
Dear All,
Just want to let you know that planning@apilp.asia <javascript:;> has been activated.
Let me know if I should go ahead to add Chat or Paul you would talk to her first.
Thanks.
Best Regards,
Yannis Li DotAsia Organisation Ltd. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------- Address: 12F, Daily House, 35-37 Haiphong Road, Tsim Sha Tsui, Hong Kong Tel: +852 2244 7920 ︳Fax: +852 2244 7902 ︳http://www.dot.asia
On 19 Apr 2016, at 3:45 PM, Paul Wilson <pwilson@apnic.net <javascript:;> wrote:
Thanks kelvin and all.
Glad to see this and to know that the issue of Civil Society presence is agreed.
This programme is a great start but before setting anything in stone, I would suggest to bring the right people into this discussion. After all it is not just an issue of civil society “content” but also “participation” in this process.
I suggest Chat Garcia, who is already active on the MSG, would be the right person to invite into this group in the short term. The future particuipation in the mailing list can continue to emerge as well of course.
Are you all OK to invite Chat at this stage?
One other comment:
This agenda is very packed and I feel that the allocation of 2 90-minutes slots to the technical community is not quite fair. Perhaps if we spent 60 minutes on IANA transiti9on and then 60 on my presentation, then this would free up time for others.
If Hong is happy to be identified as “Academic” then perhaps she should join in with the technical community, with her session scheduled before the afternoon coffee break. Then, we could leave the final session (16.00-17.30) for the Civil Society issues.
It would look something like this:
09:00 - 10:30 General: 1. Introduction to Internet Governance & Multistakeholder Model 2. Introduction to APrIGF/MSG (and outcome document?)
10:30 - 11:00 Coffee Break
11:00 - 12:00 Technical: IANA transition 12:00 - 12.30 Technical: Basics of Critical Internet Resources (DNS/IP addresses etc)
12:30 - 14:00 Lunch
14:00 - 15:30 Technical: Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network Security 14.30 - 15.30 Academic: Internet User's Rights (privacy and access to knowledge)
15:30 - 16:00 Coffee Break
16:00 - 17:30 Civil Society: 1. Exploring publicness' in the Right to Be Forgotten Rulings 2. Other topics 17:30 - 18:30 General: Emerging issues
Any thoughts?
Paul.
On 18 Apr 2016, at 17:50, Kelvin Wong wrote:
> Hi Paul, > > Thanks for starting this conversation. APILP chair is currently Peng >Hwa, > and we¹d be happy to continue to support. > > Peng Hwa and I discussed about the program following the MSG meeting >last > week and we¹ve come up with the attached program - glad that we¹ve >reached a > similar conclusion that we can beef up the civil society part! The ones >in > red are proposed and new, and I hope answers the question on the ³civil > society² deficiency well. For this, we took the liberty of looking at >some > of the workshops that are higher ranking but fell out of the top 30, >and > aligns well with what we think is useful as a segment in APILP. The >program > is open to discussion of course, and we can float this to > planning@apilp.asia <javascript:;> (and thereafter to MSG?). > > Looking at the program, since this has been decided to be a full day >program > on Day 0, I¹m wondering if coffee (and/or lunch) will also be provided >for > the participants/lecturers, as per the main conference days? > > Happy to hear views. Thanks. > > > Regards, > Kelvin > > > > > On 4/18/16, 3:04 PM, "Paul Wilson" <pwilson@apnic.net <javascript:;> > wrote: > >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Now that we have the decision to hold APILP on Day 0, we need to >>>finalise that >>> schedule and announce it so that we can improve participation. We >>>also need >>> to finalise the programme. >>> >>> I¹d like to suggest an APILP organisers¹ mailing list so that we have >>>easier >>> and more regular contact; it should also allow others to join. >>>Yannis, can >>> Dotasia set that up? something like planning@apilp.asia <javascript:;> >>> >>> On the quesiton of programme, I feel we have a deficiency with a lack >>>of >>> ³civil society² representation and content; so I want to propose to >>>involve >>> additional organisers who can contribute a unit about social issues >>>such as >>> freedom of expression, access, gender etc. I think this is really >>>very >>> necessary, and I hope we can agree to accomodate that on Day 0 as >>>well. >>> >>> For clarity, can we confirm someone to formally chair this group? >>>Peng Hwa, >>> is that you? Or Kelvin? >>> >>> Thanks all, >>> >>> Paul. >>> >>> >>> >>>
_______________________________________________________________________
>>>_ >>> Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC >>>dg@apnic.net <javascript:;> >>> http://www.apnic.net >>>@apnicdg >>>
________________________________________________________________________ Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC dg@apnic.net <javascript:;> http://www.apnic.net @apnicdg
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Hi All, Added Klee and Chester to the Planning list as requested. Regarding the information on website, Kelvin do you think it’s ok if I just copied the 3 workshop proposals brief introduction to the agenda? Or if you have a blurb that we can put on the registration page might work too. Thanks. Best Regards, Yannis Li DotAsia Organisation Ltd. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Address: 12F, Daily House, 35-37 Haiphong Road, Tsim Sha Tsui, Hong Kong Tel: +852 2244 7920 ︳Fax: +852 2244 7902 ︳http://www.dot.asia <http://www.dot.asia/> On 3 May 2016, at 10:15 AM, Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> wrote: Thanks Kuowei, it will be good if we could spread the word about this day 0 activity, and get more conference attendees, especially new(er)comers, to make arrangements to come one day earlier for this. Some related logistic considerations (for local host): - If the APrIGF 2016 website and registration page could have some information about the Day 0 APILP program, while the planning team continues to firm up the program, that will be great. Sorry if I’ve missed them. - At MSG, there was a brief discussion on the room capacity. I think it was a good sized room of about 80pax for Day 0. However, as some pointed out, if we have 60 yIGF participants (not sure I heard this one correctly), and with the 20+ fellows, there will be more than 80 participants, at least at certain times? In that case, we may need to have a bigger size room, since there would be other participants/newcomers to the APILP that is not yIGF or fellows too (including some of us here whom I’m sure would like to be in the room) :) How possible is that? Thanks! Regards, Kelvin From: Kuo-Wei Wu <kuoweiwu@gmail.com <mailto:kuoweiwu@gmail.com>> Date: Saturday, April 30, 2016 at 11:12 PM To: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org <mailto:kelvin.wong@icann.org>> Cc: Yannis Li <yannis@registry.asia <mailto:yannis@registry.asia>>, "planning@apilp.asia <mailto:planning@apilp.asia>" <planning@apilp.asia <mailto:planning@apilp.asia>> Subject: Re: [Apilp_planning] APILP preparations Anything I can help for APILP? Kuowei Wu Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org <mailto:kelvin.wong@icann.org>> 於 2016年4月26日 星期二寫道：
Hi all,
I’ve reached out to Chat separately regarding the APILP planning team, and am awaiting a response. I’ve highlighted the need for civil society perspective.
Meanwhile (and if there is no more input on the program from this group between now and tomorrow), I suppose we can run through the program during tomorrow’s MSG meeting, and seek views.
I’m not sure if the local hosts are on this list already, as we still needed to have some clarity on the availability of coffee break/lunch. Otherwise these can be raised tomorrow too.
=====Proposed program for Day 0==========
09:00 - 10:30 General: 1. Introduction to Internet Governance & Multistakeholder Model 2. Introduction to APrIGF/MSG (and outcome document?)
10:30 - 11:00 Coffee Break
11:00 - 12:00 Technical: IANA transition 12:00 - 12.30 Technical: Basics of Critical Internet Resources (DNS/IP addresses etc)
12:30 - 14:00 Lunch
14:00 - 14:30 Technical: Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network Security 14.30 - 15.30 Academic: Internet User's Rights (privacy and access to knowledge)
15:30 - 16:00 Coffee Break
16:00 - 17:30 Civil Society: 1. Exploring publicness' in the Right to Be Forgotten Rulings 2. Other topics
17:30 - 18:30 General: Emerging issues
=====Proposed program for Day 0==========
Regards, Kelvin
On 4/20/16, 2:32 PM, "Apilp_planning on behalf of Kelvin Wong" <apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia <javascript:;> on behalf of kelvin.wong@icann.org <javascript:;>> wrote:
Thanks Yannis for this.
On Paul’s note below, I think it will be great to have Chat in this too, to add more perspective.
Just to point out a small typo - I think you meant "14:00 - 14:30 - Technical: Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network Security”. Revised programme looks good to me, and we can use this as the base for discussion.
Peng Hwa, should we be including any others from APILP into this planning group?
Thanks.
Regards, Kelvin
On 4/20/16, 1:32 PM, "Apilp_planning on behalf of Yannis Li" <apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia <javascript:;> on behalf of yannis@registry.asia <javascript:;>> wrote:
Dear All,
Just want to let you know that planning@apilp.asia <javascript:;> has been activated.
Let me know if I should go ahead to add Chat or Paul you would talk to her first.
Thanks.
Best Regards,
Yannis Li DotAsia Organisation Ltd. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------- Address: 12F, Daily House, 35-37 Haiphong Road, Tsim Sha Tsui, Hong Kong Tel: +852 2244 7920 ︳Fax: +852 2244 7902 ︳http://www.dot.asia <http://www.dot.asia/>
On 19 Apr 2016, at 3:45 PM, Paul Wilson <pwilson@apnic.net <javascript:;>> wrote:
Thanks kelvin and all.
Glad to see this and to know that the issue of Civil Society presence is agreed.
This programme is a great start but before setting anything in stone, I would suggest to bring the right people into this discussion. After all it is not just an issue of civil society “content” but also “participation” in this process.
I suggest Chat Garcia, who is already active on the MSG, would be the right person to invite into this group in the short term. The future particuipation in the mailing list can continue to emerge as well of course.
Are you all OK to invite Chat at this stage?
One other comment:
This agenda is very packed and I feel that the allocation of 2 90-minutes slots to the technical community is not quite fair. Perhaps if we spent 60 minutes on IANA transiti9on and then 60 on my presentation, then this would free up time for others.
If Hong is happy to be identified as “Academic” then perhaps she should join in with the technical community, with her session scheduled before the afternoon coffee break. Then, we could leave the final session (16.00-17.30) for the Civil Society issues.
It would look something like this:
09:00 - 10:30 General: 1. Introduction to Internet Governance & Multistakeholder Model 2. Introduction to APrIGF/MSG (and outcome document?)
10:30 - 11:00 Coffee Break
11:00 - 12:00 Technical: IANA transition 12:00 - 12.30 Technical: Basics of Critical Internet Resources (DNS/IP addresses etc)
12:30 - 14:00 Lunch
14:00 - 15:30 Technical: Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network Security 14.30 - 15.30 Academic: Internet User's Rights (privacy and access to knowledge)
15:30 - 16:00 Coffee Break
16:00 - 17:30 Civil Society: 1. Exploring publicness' in the Right to Be Forgotten Rulings 2. Other topics 17:30 - 18:30 General: Emerging issues
Any thoughts?
Paul.
On 18 Apr 2016, at 17:50, Kelvin Wong wrote:
Hi Paul,
Thanks for starting this conversation. APILP chair is currently Peng Hwa, and we¹d be happy to continue to support.
Peng Hwa and I discussed about the program following the MSG meeting last week and we¹ve come up with the attached program - glad that we¹ve reached a similar conclusion that we can beef up the civil society part! The ones in red are proposed and new, and I hope answers the question on the ³civil society² deficiency well. For this, we took the liberty of looking at some of the workshops that are higher ranking but fell out of the top 30, and aligns well with what we think is useful as a segment in APILP. The program is open to discussion of course, and we can float this to planning@apilp.asia <javascript:;> (and thereafter to MSG?).
Looking at the program, since this has been decided to be a full day program on Day 0, I¹m wondering if coffee (and/or lunch) will also be provided for the participants/lecturers, as per the main conference days?
Happy to hear views. Thanks.
Regards, Kelvin
On 4/18/16, 3:04 PM, "Paul Wilson" <pwilson@apnic.net <javascript:;>> wrote:
Hi all,
Now that we have the decision to hold APILP on Day 0, we need to finalise that schedule and announce it so that we can improve participation. We also need to finalise the programme.
I¹d like to suggest an APILP organisers¹ mailing list so that we have easier and more regular contact; it should also allow others to join. Yannis, can Dotasia set that up? something like planning@apilp.asia <javascript:;>
On the quesiton of programme, I feel we have a deficiency with a lack of ³civil society² representation and content; so I want to propose to involve additional organisers who can contribute a unit about social issues such as freedom of expression, access, gender etc. I think this is really very necessary, and I hope we can agree to accomodate that on Day 0 as well.
For clarity, can we confirm someone to formally chair this group? Peng Hwa, is that you? Or Kelvin?
Thanks all,
Paul.
_______________________________________________________________________ _ Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC dg@apnic.net <javascript:;> http://www.apnic.net <http://www.apnic.net/> @apnicdg
________________________________________________________________________ Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC dg@apnic.net <javascript:;> http://www.apnic.net <http://www.apnic.net/> @apnicdg
_______________________________________________ Apilp_planning mailing list Apilp_planning@jerry.dot.asia <javascript:;> https://mailman.dotasia.org/mailman/listinfo/apilp_planning <https://mailman.dotasia.org/mailman/listinfo/apilp_planning>
Hi Yannis, If no one objects, I think we can include the course descriptions in the 3 workshop proposals in the agenda, since these are more firm, and provide more detail. The write up also includes the blurb on APILP. And if you could avoid references to the fact that we proposed to spread it over 3 days, that will be much appreciated. Original workshop proposals are attached for reference. Thanks Yannis. Regards, Kelvin From: Yannis Li <yannis@registry.asia> Date: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 5:33 PM To: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> Cc: "kuoweiwu@gmail.com" <kuoweiwu@gmail.com>, "planning@apilp.asia" <planning@apilp.asia> Subject: Re: [Apilp_planning] APILP preparations Hi All, Added Klee and Chester to the Planning list as requested. Regarding the information on website, Kelvin do you think it’s ok if I just copied the 3 workshop proposals brief introduction to the agenda? Or if you have a blurb that we can put on the registration page might work too. Thanks. Best Regards, Yannis Li DotAsia Organisation Ltd. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------- Address: 12F, Daily House, 35-37 Haiphong Road, Tsim Sha Tsui, Hong Kong Tel: +852 2244 7920 ︳Fax: +852 2244 7902 ︳http://www.dot.asia On 3 May 2016, at 10:15 AM, Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> wrote: Thanks Kuowei, it will be good if we could spread the word about this day 0 activity, and get more conference attendees, especially new(er)comers, to make arrangements to come one day earlier for this. Some related logistic considerations (for local host): - If the APrIGF 2016 website and registration page could have some information about the Day 0 APILP program, while the planning team continues to firm up the program, that will be great. Sorry if I’ve missed them. - At MSG, there was a brief discussion on the room capacity. I think it was a good sized room of about 80pax for Day 0. However, as some pointed out, if we have 60 yIGF participants (not sure I heard this one correctly), and with the 20+ fellows, there will be more than 80 participants, at least at certain times? In that case, we may need to have a bigger size room, since there would be other participants/newcomers to the APILP that is not yIGF or fellows too (including some of us here whom I’m sure would like to be in the room) :) How possible is that? Thanks! Regards, Kelvin From: Kuo-Wei Wu <kuoweiwu@gmail.com> Date: Saturday, April 30, 2016 at 11:12 PM To: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> Cc: Yannis Li <yannis@registry.asia>, "planning@apilp.asia" <planning@apilp.asia> Subject: Re: [Apilp_planning] APILP preparations Anything I can help for APILP? Kuowei Wu Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> 於 2016年4月26日 星期二寫道：
Hi all,
I’ve reached out to Chat separately regarding the APILP planning team, and am awaiting a response. I’ve highlighted the need for civil society perspective.
Meanwhile (and if there is no more input on the program from this group between now and tomorrow), I suppose we can run through the program during tomorrow’s MSG meeting, and seek views.
I’m not sure if the local hosts are on this list already, as we still needed to have some clarity on the availability of coffee break/lunch. Otherwise these can be raised tomorrow too.
=====Proposed program for Day 0==========
09:00 - 10:30 General: 1. Introduction to Internet Governance & Multistakeholder Model 2. Introduction to APrIGF/MSG (and outcome document?)
10:30 - 11:00 Coffee Break
11:00 - 12:00 Technical: IANA transition 12:00 - 12.30 Technical: Basics of Critical Internet Resources (DNS/IP addresses etc)
12:30 - 14:00 Lunch
14:00 - 14:30 Technical: Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network Security 14.30 - 15.30 Academic: Internet User's Rights (privacy and access to knowledge)
15:30 - 16:00 Coffee Break
16:00 - 17:30 Civil Society: 1. Exploring publicness' in the Right to Be Forgotten Rulings 2. Other topics
17:30 - 18:30 General: Emerging issues
=====Proposed program for Day 0==========
Regards, Kelvin
On 4/20/16, 2:32 PM, "Apilp_planning on behalf of Kelvin Wong" <apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia <javascript:;> on behalf of kelvin.wong@icann.org <javascript:;> > wrote:
Thanks Yannis for this.
On Paul’s note below, I think it will be great to have Chat in this too, to add more perspective.
Just to point out a small typo - I think you meant "14:00 - 14:30 - Technical: Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network Security”. Revised programme looks good to me, and we can use this as the base for discussion.
Peng Hwa, should we be including any others from APILP into this planning group?
Thanks.
Regards, Kelvin
On 4/20/16, 1:32 PM, "Apilp_planning on behalf of Yannis Li" <apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia <javascript:;> on behalf of yannis@registry.asia <javascript:;> > wrote:
Dear All,
Just want to let you know that planning@apilp.asia <javascript:;> has been activated.
Let me know if I should go ahead to add Chat or Paul you would talk to her first.
Thanks.
Best Regards,
Yannis Li DotAsia Organisation Ltd. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------- Address: 12F, Daily House, 35-37 Haiphong Road, Tsim Sha Tsui, Hong Kong Tel: +852 2244 7920 ︳Fax: +852 2244 7902 ︳http://www.dot.asia <http://www.dot.asia/>
On 19 Apr 2016, at 3:45 PM, Paul Wilson <pwilson@apnic.net <javascript:;> wrote:
Thanks kelvin and all.
Glad to see this and to know that the issue of Civil Society presence is agreed.
This programme is a great start but before setting anything in stone, I would suggest to bring the right people into this discussion. After all it is not just an issue of civil society “content” but also “participation” in this process.
I suggest Chat Garcia, who is already active on the MSG, would be the right person to invite into this group in the short term. The future particuipation in the mailing list can continue to emerge as well of course.
Are you all OK to invite Chat at this stage?
One other comment:
This agenda is very packed and I feel that the allocation of 2 90-minutes slots to the technical community is not quite fair. Perhaps if we spent 60 minutes on IANA transiti9on and then 60 on my presentation, then this would free up time for others.
If Hong is happy to be identified as “Academic” then perhaps she should join in with the technical community, with her session scheduled before the afternoon coffee break. Then, we could leave the final session (16.00-17.30) for the Civil Society issues.
It would look something like this:
09:00 - 10:30 General: 1. Introduction to Internet Governance & Multistakeholder Model 2. Introduction to APrIGF/MSG (and outcome document?)
10:30 - 11:00 Coffee Break
11:00 - 12:00 Technical: IANA transition 12:00 - 12.30 Technical: Basics of Critical Internet Resources (DNS/IP addresses etc)
12:30 - 14:00 Lunch
14:00 - 15:30 Technical: Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network Security 14.30 - 15.30 Academic: Internet User's Rights (privacy and access to knowledge)
15:30 - 16:00 Coffee Break
16:00 - 17:30 Civil Society: 1. Exploring publicness' in the Right to Be Forgotten Rulings 2. Other topics 17:30 - 18:30 General: Emerging issues
Any thoughts?
Paul.
On 18 Apr 2016, at 17:50, Kelvin Wong wrote:
> Hi Paul, > > Thanks for starting this conversation. APILP chair is currently Peng >Hwa, > and we¹d be happy to continue to support. > > Peng Hwa and I discussed about the program following the MSG meeting >last > week and we¹ve come up with the attached program - glad that we¹ve >reached a > similar conclusion that we can beef up the civil society part! The ones >in > red are proposed and new, and I hope answers the question on the ³civil > society² deficiency well. For this, we took the liberty of looking at >some > of the workshops that are higher ranking but fell out of the top 30, >and > aligns well with what we think is useful as a segment in APILP. The >program > is open to discussion of course, and we can float this to > planning@apilp.asia <javascript:;> (and thereafter to MSG?). > > Looking at the program, since this has been decided to be a full day >program > on Day 0, I¹m wondering if coffee (and/or lunch) will also be provided >for > the participants/lecturers, as per the main conference days? > > Happy to hear views. Thanks. > > > Regards, > Kelvin > > > > > On 4/18/16, 3:04 PM, "Paul Wilson" <pwilson@apnic.net <javascript:;> > wrote: > >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Now that we have the decision to hold APILP on Day 0, we need to >>>finalise that >>> schedule and announce it so that we can improve participation. We >>>also need >>> to finalise the programme. >>> >>> I¹d like to suggest an APILP organisers¹ mailing list so that we have >>>easier >>> and more regular contact; it should also allow others to join. >>>Yannis, can >>> Dotasia set that up? something like planning@apilp.asia <javascript:;> >>> >>> On the quesiton of programme, I feel we have a deficiency with a lack >>>of >>> ³civil society² representation and content; so I want to propose to >>>involve >>> additional organisers who can contribute a unit about social issues >>>such as >>> freedom of expression, access, gender etc. I think this is really >>>very >>> necessary, and I hope we can agree to accomodate that on Day 0 as >>>well. >>> >>> For clarity, can we confirm someone to formally chair this group? >>>Peng Hwa, >>> is that you? Or Kelvin? >>> >>> Thanks all, >>> >>> Paul. >>> >>> >>> >>>
_______________________________________________________________________
>>>_ >>> Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC >>>dg@apnic.net <javascript:;> >>> http://www.apnic.net <http://www.apnic.net/> >>>@apnicdg >>>
________________________________________________________________________ Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC dg@apnic.net <javascript:;> http://www.apnic.net <http://www.apnic.net/> @apnicdg
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Dear all, After some correspondence with the David and Yannis, yIGF organizers, we would like to suggest that we reserve the first 15 minutes for a Welcome address targetted at the the newcomers, APrIGF fellows, as well as for introductions to yIGF/APILP. This will be the first time many of the attendees have participated in the programs. In addition, I’d like to propose adding the following topic on “Human Rights and the Internet” for the 16:00-17:30 civil society session. Thanks Chat and Jac / APC for proposing the topic for this and agreeing to lead the session (description below). Sounds like a good introductory session for the newcomers. Human Rights and the Internet: Overview of how the human rights framework has been applied in internet governance and policy development. This includes the history of human rights from WSIS to IGF, and the interlinkages between policy processes such as Human Rights Council, ITU and UN Commission on the Status of Women in the articulation of the right to freedom of expression, violence against women, right to be forgotten and privacy on the internet. The full program is attached for your reference, and comments, if any, by end 17 May (Tues). Thanks! Regards, Kelvin From: Apilp_planning <apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia> on behalf of Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 9:03 AM To: Yannis Li <yannis@registry.asia> Cc: "planning@apilp.asia" <planning@apilp.asia> Subject: Re: [Apilp_planning] APILP preparations Hi Yannis, If no one objects, I think we can include the course descriptions in the 3 workshop proposals in the agenda, since these are more firm, and provide more detail. The write up also includes the blurb on APILP. And if you could avoid references to the fact that we proposed to spread it over 3 days, that will be much appreciated. Original workshop proposals are attached for reference. Thanks Yannis. Regards, Kelvin From: Yannis Li <yannis@registry.asia> Date: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 5:33 PM To: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> Cc: "kuoweiwu@gmail.com" <kuoweiwu@gmail.com>, "planning@apilp.asia" <planning@apilp.asia> Subject: Re: [Apilp_planning] APILP preparations Hi All, Added Klee and Chester to the Planning list as requested. Regarding the information on website, Kelvin do you think it’s ok if I just copied the 3 workshop proposals brief introduction to the agenda? Or if you have a blurb that we can put on the registration page might work too. Thanks. Best Regards, Yannis Li DotAsia Organisation Ltd. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------- Address: 12F, Daily House, 35-37 Haiphong Road, Tsim Sha Tsui, Hong Kong Tel: +852 2244 7920 ︳Fax: +852 2244 7902 ︳http://www.dot.asia On 3 May 2016, at 10:15 AM, Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> wrote: Thanks Kuowei, it will be good if we could spread the word about this day 0 activity, and get more conference attendees, especially new(er)comers, to make arrangements to come one day earlier for this. Some related logistic considerations (for local host): - If the APrIGF 2016 website and registration page could have some information about the Day 0 APILP program, while the planning team continues to firm up the program, that will be great. Sorry if I’ve missed them. - At MSG, there was a brief discussion on the room capacity. I think it was a good sized room of about 80pax for Day 0. However, as some pointed out, if we have 60 yIGF participants (not sure I heard this one correctly), and with the 20+ fellows, there will be more than 80 participants, at least at certain times? In that case, we may need to have a bigger size room, since there would be other participants/newcomers to the APILP that is not yIGF or fellows too (including some of us here whom I’m sure would like to be in the room) :) How possible is that? Thanks! Regards, Kelvin From: Kuo-Wei Wu <kuoweiwu@gmail.com> Date: Saturday, April 30, 2016 at 11:12 PM To: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> Cc: Yannis Li <yannis@registry.asia>, "planning@apilp.asia" <planning@apilp.asia> Subject: Re: [Apilp_planning] APILP preparations Anything I can help for APILP? Kuowei Wu Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> 於 2016年4月26日 星期二寫道：
Hi all,
I’ve reached out to Chat separately regarding the APILP planning team, and am awaiting a response. I’ve highlighted the need for civil society perspective.
Meanwhile (and if there is no more input on the program from this group between now and tomorrow), I suppose we can run through the program during tomorrow’s MSG meeting, and seek views.
I’m not sure if the local hosts are on this list already, as we still needed to have some clarity on the availability of coffee break/lunch. Otherwise these can be raised tomorrow too.
=====Proposed program for Day 0==========
09:00 - 10:30 General: 1. Introduction to Internet Governance & Multistakeholder Model 2. Introduction to APrIGF/MSG (and outcome document?)
10:30 - 11:00 Coffee Break
11:00 - 12:00 Technical: IANA transition 12:00 - 12.30 Technical: Basics of Critical Internet Resources (DNS/IP addresses etc)
12:30 - 14:00 Lunch
14:00 - 14:30 Technical: Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network Security 14.30 - 15.30 Academic: Internet User's Rights (privacy and access to knowledge)
15:30 - 16:00 Coffee Break
16:00 - 17:30 Civil Society: 1. Exploring publicness' in the Right to Be Forgotten Rulings 2. Other topics
17:30 - 18:30 General: Emerging issues
=====Proposed program for Day 0==========
Regards, Kelvin
On 4/20/16, 2:32 PM, "Apilp_planning on behalf of Kelvin Wong" <apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia <javascript:;> on behalf of kelvin.wong@icann.org <javascript:;> > wrote:
Thanks Yannis for this.
On Paul’s note below, I think it will be great to have Chat in this too, to add more perspective.
Just to point out a small typo - I think you meant "14:00 - 14:30 - Technical: Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network Security”. Revised programme looks good to me, and we can use this as the base for discussion.
Peng Hwa, should we be including any others from APILP into this planning group?
Thanks.
Regards, Kelvin
On 4/20/16, 1:32 PM, "Apilp_planning on behalf of Yannis Li" <apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia <javascript:;> on behalf of yannis@registry.asia <javascript:;> > wrote:
Dear All,
Just want to let you know that planning@apilp.asia <javascript:;> has been activated.
Let me know if I should go ahead to add Chat or Paul you would talk to her first.
Thanks.
Best Regards,
Yannis Li DotAsia Organisation Ltd. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------- Address: 12F, Daily House, 35-37 Haiphong Road, Tsim Sha Tsui, Hong Kong Tel: +852 2244 7920 ︳Fax: +852 2244 7902 ︳http://www.dot.asia <http://www.dot.asia/>
On 19 Apr 2016, at 3:45 PM, Paul Wilson <pwilson@apnic.net <javascript:;> wrote:
Thanks kelvin and all.
Glad to see this and to know that the issue of Civil Society presence is agreed.
This programme is a great start but before setting anything in stone, I would suggest to bring the right people into this discussion. After all it is not just an issue of civil society “content” but also “participation” in this process.
I suggest Chat Garcia, who is already active on the MSG, would be the right person to invite into this group in the short term. The future particuipation in the mailing list can continue to emerge as well of course.
Are you all OK to invite Chat at this stage?
One other comment:
This agenda is very packed and I feel that the allocation of 2 90-minutes slots to the technical community is not quite fair. Perhaps if we spent 60 minutes on IANA transiti9on and then 60 on my presentation, then this would free up time for others.
If Hong is happy to be identified as “Academic” then perhaps she should join in with the technical community, with her session scheduled before the afternoon coffee break. Then, we could leave the final session (16.00-17.30) for the Civil Society issues.
It would look something like this:
09:00 - 10:30 General: 1. Introduction to Internet Governance & Multistakeholder Model 2. Introduction to APrIGF/MSG (and outcome document?)
10:30 - 11:00 Coffee Break
11:00 - 12:00 Technical: IANA transition 12:00 - 12.30 Technical: Basics of Critical Internet Resources (DNS/IP addresses etc)
12:30 - 14:00 Lunch
14:00 - 15:30 Technical: Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network Security 14.30 - 15.30 Academic: Internet User's Rights (privacy and access to knowledge)
15:30 - 16:00 Coffee Break
16:00 - 17:30 Civil Society: 1. Exploring publicness' in the Right to Be Forgotten Rulings 2. Other topics 17:30 - 18:30 General: Emerging issues
Any thoughts?
Paul.
On 18 Apr 2016, at 17:50, Kelvin Wong wrote:
> Hi Paul, > > Thanks for starting this conversation. APILP chair is currently Peng >Hwa, > and we¹d be happy to continue to support. > > Peng Hwa and I discussed about the program following the MSG meeting >last > week and we¹ve come up with the attached program - glad that we¹ve >reached a > similar conclusion that we can beef up the civil society part! The ones >in > red are proposed and new, and I hope answers the question on the ³civil > society² deficiency well. For this, we took the liberty of looking at >some > of the workshops that are higher ranking but fell out of the top 30, >and > aligns well with what we think is useful as a segment in APILP. The >program > is open to discussion of course, and we can float this to > planning@apilp.asia <javascript:;> (and thereafter to MSG?). > > Looking at the program, since this has been decided to be a full day >program > on Day 0, I¹m wondering if coffee (and/or lunch) will also be provided >for > the participants/lecturers, as per the main conference days? > > Happy to hear views. Thanks. > > > Regards, > Kelvin > > > > > On 4/18/16, 3:04 PM, "Paul Wilson" <pwilson@apnic.net <javascript:;> > wrote: > >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Now that we have the decision to hold APILP on Day 0, we need to >>>finalise that >>> schedule and announce it so that we can improve participation. We >>>also need >>> to finalise the programme. >>> >>> I¹d like to suggest an APILP organisers¹ mailing list so that we have >>>easier >>> and more regular contact; it should also allow others to join. >>>Yannis, can >>> Dotasia set that up? something like planning@apilp.asia <javascript:;> >>> >>> On the quesiton of programme, I feel we have a deficiency with a lack >>>of >>> ³civil society² representation and content; so I want to propose to >>>involve >>> additional organisers who can contribute a unit about social issues >>>such as >>> freedom of expression, access, gender etc. I think this is really >>>very >>> necessary, and I hope we can agree to accomodate that on Day 0 as >>>well. >>> >>> For clarity, can we confirm someone to formally chair this group? >>>Peng Hwa, >>> is that you? Or Kelvin? >>> >>> Thanks all, >>> >>> Paul. >>> >>> >>> >>>
_______________________________________________________________________
>>>_ >>> Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC >>>dg@apnic.net <javascript:;> >>> http://www.apnic.net <http://www.apnic.net/> >>>@apnicdg >>>
________________________________________________________________________ Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC dg@apnic.net <javascript:;> http://www.apnic.net <http://www.apnic.net/> @apnicdg
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Sounds fine to me. Kuo Wu
Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> 於 2016年5月13日 16:49 寫道：
Dear all,
After some correspondence with the David and Yannis, yIGF organizers, we would like to suggest that we reserve the first 15 minutes for a Welcome address targetted at the the newcomers, APrIGF fellows, as well as for introductions to yIGF/APILP. This will be the first time many of the attendees have participated in the programs.
In addition, I’d like to propose adding the following topic on “Human Rights and the Internet” for the 16:00-17:30 civil society session. Thanks Chat and Jac / APC for proposing the topic for this and agreeing to lead the session (description below). Sounds like a good introductory session for the newcomers.
Human Rights and the Internet: Overview of how the human rights framework has been applied in internet governance and policy development. This includes the history of human rights from WSIS to IGF, and the interlinkages between policy processes such as Human Rights Council, ITU and UN Commission on the Status of Women in the articulation of the right to freedom of expression, violence against women, right to be forgotten and privacy on the internet.
The full program is attached for your reference, and comments, if any, by end 17 May (Tues). Thanks!
Regards, Kelvin
From: Apilp_planning <apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia <mailto:apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia>> on behalf of Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org <mailto:kelvin.wong@icann.org>> Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 9:03 AM To: Yannis Li <yannis@registry.asia <mailto:yannis@registry.asia>> Cc: "planning@apilp.asia <mailto:planning@apilp.asia>" <planning@apilp.asia <mailto:planning@apilp.asia>> Subject: Re: [Apilp_planning] APILP preparations
Hi Yannis,
If no one objects, I think we can include the course descriptions in the 3 workshop proposals in the agenda, since these are more firm, and provide more detail. The write up also includes the blurb on APILP.
And if you could avoid references to the fact that we proposed to spread it over 3 days, that will be much appreciated.
Original workshop proposals are attached for reference. Thanks Yannis.
Regards, Kelvin
From: Yannis Li <yannis@registry.asia <mailto:yannis@registry.asia>> Date: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 5:33 PM To: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org <mailto:kelvin.wong@icann.org>> Cc: "kuoweiwu@gmail.com <mailto:kuoweiwu@gmail.com>" <kuoweiwu@gmail.com <mailto:kuoweiwu@gmail.com>>, "planning@apilp.asia <mailto:planning@apilp.asia>" <planning@apilp.asia <mailto:planning@apilp.asia>> Subject: Re: [Apilp_planning] APILP preparations
Hi All,
Added Klee and Chester to the Planning list as requested.
Regarding the information on website, Kelvin do you think it’s ok if I just copied the 3 workshop proposals brief introduction to the agenda? Or if you have a blurb that we can put on the registration page might work too.
Thanks.
Best Regards,
Yannis Li DotAsia Organisation Ltd. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Address: 12F, Daily House, 35-37 Haiphong Road, Tsim Sha Tsui, Hong Kong Tel: +852 2244 7920 ︳Fax: +852 2244 7902 ︳http://www.dot.asia <http://www.dot.asia/>
On 3 May 2016, at 10:15 AM, Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org <mailto:kelvin.wong@icann.org>> wrote:
Thanks Kuowei, it will be good if we could spread the word about this day 0 activity, and get more conference attendees, especially new(er)comers, to make arrangements to come one day earlier for this.
Some related logistic considerations (for local host):
- If the APrIGF 2016 website and registration page could have some information about the Day 0 APILP program, while the planning team continues to firm up the program, that will be great. Sorry if I’ve missed them.
- At MSG, there was a brief discussion on the room capacity. I think it was a good sized room of about 80pax for Day 0. However, as some pointed out, if we have 60 yIGF participants (not sure I heard this one correctly), and with the 20+ fellows, there will be more than 80 participants, at least at certain times? In that case, we may need to have a bigger size room, since there would be other participants/newcomers to the APILP that is not yIGF or fellows too (including some of us here whom I’m sure would like to be in the room) :) How possible is that?
Thanks!
Regards, Kelvin
From: Kuo-Wei Wu <kuoweiwu@gmail.com <mailto:kuoweiwu@gmail.com>> Date: Saturday, April 30, 2016 at 11:12 PM To: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org <mailto:kelvin.wong@icann.org>> Cc: Yannis Li <yannis@registry.asia <mailto:yannis@registry.asia>>, "planning@apilp.asia <mailto:planning@apilp.asia>" <planning@apilp.asia <mailto:planning@apilp.asia>> Subject: Re: [Apilp_planning] APILP preparations
Anything I can help for APILP?
Kuowei Wu
Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org <mailto:kelvin.wong@icann.org>> 於 2016年4月26日 星期二寫道：
Hi all,
I’ve reached out to Chat separately regarding the APILP planning team, and am awaiting a response. I’ve highlighted the need for civil society perspective.
Meanwhile (and if there is no more input on the program from this group between now and tomorrow), I suppose we can run through the program during tomorrow’s MSG meeting, and seek views.
I’m not sure if the local hosts are on this list already, as we still needed to have some clarity on the availability of coffee break/lunch. Otherwise these can be raised tomorrow too.
=====Proposed program for Day 0==========
09:00 - 10:30 General: 1. Introduction to Internet Governance & Multistakeholder Model 2. Introduction to APrIGF/MSG (and outcome document?)
10:30 - 11:00 Coffee Break
11:00 - 12:00 Technical: IANA transition 12:00 - 12.30 Technical: Basics of Critical Internet Resources (DNS/IP addresses etc)
12:30 - 14:00 Lunch
14:00 - 14:30 Technical: Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network Security 14.30 - 15.30 Academic: Internet User's Rights (privacy and access to knowledge)
15:30 - 16:00 Coffee Break
16:00 - 17:30 Civil Society: 1. Exploring publicness' in the Right to Be Forgotten Rulings 2. Other topics
17:30 - 18:30 General: Emerging issues
=====Proposed program for Day 0==========
Regards, Kelvin
On 4/20/16, 2:32 PM, "Apilp_planning on behalf of Kelvin Wong" <apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia <javascript:;> on behalf of kelvin.wong@icann.org <javascript:;>> wrote:
Thanks Yannis for this.
On Paul’s note below, I think it will be great to have Chat in this too, to add more perspective.
Just to point out a small typo - I think you meant "14:00 - 14:30 - Technical: Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network Security”. Revised programme looks good to me, and we can use this as the base for discussion.
Peng Hwa, should we be including any others from APILP into this planning group?
Thanks.
Regards, Kelvin
On 4/20/16, 1:32 PM, "Apilp_planning on behalf of Yannis Li" <apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia <javascript:;> on behalf of yannis@registry.asia <javascript:;>> wrote:
Dear All,
Just want to let you know that planning@apilp.asia <javascript:;> has been activated.
Let me know if I should go ahead to add Chat or Paul you would talk to her first.
Thanks.
Best Regards,
Yannis Li DotAsia Organisation Ltd. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------- Address: 12F, Daily House, 35-37 Haiphong Road, Tsim Sha Tsui, Hong Kong Tel: +852 2244 7920 ︳Fax: +852 2244 7902 ︳http://www.dot.asia <http://www.dot.asia/>
On 19 Apr 2016, at 3:45 PM, Paul Wilson <pwilson@apnic.net <javascript:;>> wrote:
Thanks kelvin and all.
Glad to see this and to know that the issue of Civil Society presence is agreed.
This programme is a great start but before setting anything in stone, I would suggest to bring the right people into this discussion. After all it is not just an issue of civil society “content” but also “participation” in this process.
I suggest Chat Garcia, who is already active on the MSG, would be the right person to invite into this group in the short term. The future particuipation in the mailing list can continue to emerge as well of course.
Are you all OK to invite Chat at this stage?
One other comment:
This agenda is very packed and I feel that the allocation of 2 90-minutes slots to the technical community is not quite fair. Perhaps if we spent 60 minutes on IANA transiti9on and then 60 on my presentation, then this would free up time for others.
If Hong is happy to be identified as “Academic” then perhaps she should join in with the technical community, with her session scheduled before the afternoon coffee break. Then, we could leave the final session (16.00-17.30) for the Civil Society issues.
It would look something like this:
09:00 - 10:30 General: 1. Introduction to Internet Governance & Multistakeholder Model 2. Introduction to APrIGF/MSG (and outcome document?)
10:30 - 11:00 Coffee Break
11:00 - 12:00 Technical: IANA transition 12:00 - 12.30 Technical: Basics of Critical Internet Resources (DNS/IP addresses etc)
12:30 - 14:00 Lunch
14:00 - 15:30 Technical: Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network Security 14.30 - 15.30 Academic: Internet User's Rights (privacy and access to knowledge)
15:30 - 16:00 Coffee Break
16:00 - 17:30 Civil Society: 1. Exploring publicness' in the Right to Be Forgotten Rulings 2. Other topics 17:30 - 18:30 General: Emerging issues
Any thoughts?
Paul.
On 18 Apr 2016, at 17:50, Kelvin Wong wrote:
Hi Paul,
Thanks for starting this conversation. APILP chair is currently Peng Hwa, and we¹d be happy to continue to support.
Peng Hwa and I discussed about the program following the MSG meeting last week and we¹ve come up with the attached program - glad that we¹ve reached a similar conclusion that we can beef up the civil society part! The ones in red are proposed and new, and I hope answers the question on the ³civil society² deficiency well. For this, we took the liberty of looking at some of the workshops that are higher ranking but fell out of the top 30, and aligns well with what we think is useful as a segment in APILP. The program is open to discussion of course, and we can float this to planning@apilp.asia <javascript:;> (and thereafter to MSG?).
Looking at the program, since this has been decided to be a full day program on Day 0, I¹m wondering if coffee (and/or lunch) will also be provided for the participants/lecturers, as per the main conference days?
Happy to hear views. Thanks.
Regards, Kelvin
On 4/18/16, 3:04 PM, "Paul Wilson" <pwilson@apnic.net <javascript:;>> wrote:
Hi all,
Now that we have the decision to hold APILP on Day 0, we need to finalise that schedule and announce it so that we can improve participation. We also need to finalise the programme.
I¹d like to suggest an APILP organisers¹ mailing list so that we have easier and more regular contact; it should also allow others to join. Yannis, can Dotasia set that up? something like planning@apilp.asia <javascript:;>
On the quesiton of programme, I feel we have a deficiency with a lack of ³civil society² representation and content; so I want to propose to involve additional organisers who can contribute a unit about social issues such as freedom of expression, access, gender etc. I think this is really very necessary, and I hope we can agree to accomodate that on Day 0 as well.
For clarity, can we confirm someone to formally chair this group? Peng Hwa, is that you? Or Kelvin?
Thanks all,
Paul.
_______________________________________________________________________ _ Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC dg@apnic.net <javascript:;> http://www.apnic.net <http://www.apnic.net/> @apnicdg
________________________________________________________________________ Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC dg@apnic.net <javascript:;> http://www.apnic.net <http://www.apnic.net/> @apnicdg
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<Day 0 APILP Program [Draft].pdf>_______________________________________________ Apilp_planning mailing list Apilp_planning@jerry.dot.asia https://mailman.dotasia.org/mailman/listinfo/apilp_planning
We do for board member, but I don’t know about the public version. Kuo Wu
Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> 於 2016年5月13日 16:49 寫道：
Dear all,
After some correspondence with the David and Yannis, yIGF organizers, we would like to suggest that we reserve the first 15 minutes for a Welcome address targetted at the the newcomers, APrIGF fellows, as well as for introductions to yIGF/APILP. This will be the first time many of the attendees have participated in the programs.
In addition, I’d like to propose adding the following topic on “Human Rights and the Internet” for the 16:00-17:30 civil society session. Thanks Chat and Jac / APC for proposing the topic for this and agreeing to lead the session (description below). Sounds like a good introductory session for the newcomers.
Human Rights and the Internet: Overview of how the human rights framework has been applied in internet governance and policy development. This includes the history of human rights from WSIS to IGF, and the interlinkages between policy processes such as Human Rights Council, ITU and UN Commission on the Status of Women in the articulation of the right to freedom of expression, violence against women, right to be forgotten and privacy on the internet.
The full program is attached for your reference, and comments, if any, by end 17 May (Tues). Thanks!
Regards, Kelvin
From: Apilp_planning <apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia <mailto:apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia>> on behalf of Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org <mailto:kelvin.wong@icann.org>> Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 9:03 AM To: Yannis Li <yannis@registry.asia <mailto:yannis@registry.asia>> Cc: "planning@apilp.asia <mailto:planning@apilp.asia>" <planning@apilp.asia <mailto:planning@apilp.asia>> Subject: Re: [Apilp_planning] APILP preparations
Hi Yannis,
If no one objects, I think we can include the course descriptions in the 3 workshop proposals in the agenda, since these are more firm, and provide more detail. The write up also includes the blurb on APILP.
And if you could avoid references to the fact that we proposed to spread it over 3 days, that will be much appreciated.
Original workshop proposals are attached for reference. Thanks Yannis.
Regards, Kelvin
From: Yannis Li <yannis@registry.asia <mailto:yannis@registry.asia>> Date: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 5:33 PM To: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org <mailto:kelvin.wong@icann.org>> Cc: "kuoweiwu@gmail.com <mailto:kuoweiwu@gmail.com>" <kuoweiwu@gmail.com <mailto:kuoweiwu@gmail.com>>, "planning@apilp.asia <mailto:planning@apilp.asia>" <planning@apilp.asia <mailto:planning@apilp.asia>> Subject: Re: [Apilp_planning] APILP preparations
Hi All,
Added Klee and Chester to the Planning list as requested.
Regarding the information on website, Kelvin do you think it’s ok if I just copied the 3 workshop proposals brief introduction to the agenda? Or if you have a blurb that we can put on the registration page might work too.
Thanks.
Best Regards,
Yannis Li DotAsia Organisation Ltd. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Address: 12F, Daily House, 35-37 Haiphong Road, Tsim Sha Tsui, Hong Kong Tel: +852 2244 7920 ︳Fax: +852 2244 7902 ︳http://www.dot.asia <http://www.dot.asia/>
On 3 May 2016, at 10:15 AM, Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org <mailto:kelvin.wong@icann.org>> wrote:
Thanks Kuowei, it will be good if we could spread the word about this day 0 activity, and get more conference attendees, especially new(er)comers, to make arrangements to come one day earlier for this.
Some related logistic considerations (for local host):
- If the APrIGF 2016 website and registration page could have some information about the Day 0 APILP program, while the planning team continues to firm up the program, that will be great. Sorry if I’ve missed them.
- At MSG, there was a brief discussion on the room capacity. I think it was a good sized room of about 80pax for Day 0. However, as some pointed out, if we have 60 yIGF participants (not sure I heard this one correctly), and with the 20+ fellows, there will be more than 80 participants, at least at certain times? In that case, we may need to have a bigger size room, since there would be other participants/newcomers to the APILP that is not yIGF or fellows too (including some of us here whom I’m sure would like to be in the room) :) How possible is that?
Thanks!
Regards, Kelvin
From: Kuo-Wei Wu <kuoweiwu@gmail.com <mailto:kuoweiwu@gmail.com>> Date: Saturday, April 30, 2016 at 11:12 PM To: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org <mailto:kelvin.wong@icann.org>> Cc: Yannis Li <yannis@registry.asia <mailto:yannis@registry.asia>>, "planning@apilp.asia <mailto:planning@apilp.asia>" <planning@apilp.asia <mailto:planning@apilp.asia>> Subject: Re: [Apilp_planning] APILP preparations
Anything I can help for APILP?
Kuowei Wu
Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org <mailto:kelvin.wong@icann.org>> 於 2016年4月26日 星期二寫道：
Hi all,
I’ve reached out to Chat separately regarding the APILP planning team, and am awaiting a response. I’ve highlighted the need for civil society perspective.
Meanwhile (and if there is no more input on the program from this group between now and tomorrow), I suppose we can run through the program during tomorrow’s MSG meeting, and seek views.
I’m not sure if the local hosts are on this list already, as we still needed to have some clarity on the availability of coffee break/lunch. Otherwise these can be raised tomorrow too.
=====Proposed program for Day 0==========
09:00 - 10:30 General: 1. Introduction to Internet Governance & Multistakeholder Model 2. Introduction to APrIGF/MSG (and outcome document?)
10:30 - 11:00 Coffee Break
11:00 - 12:00 Technical: IANA transition 12:00 - 12.30 Technical: Basics of Critical Internet Resources (DNS/IP addresses etc)
12:30 - 14:00 Lunch
14:00 - 14:30 Technical: Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network Security 14.30 - 15.30 Academic: Internet User's Rights (privacy and access to knowledge)
15:30 - 16:00 Coffee Break
16:00 - 17:30 Civil Society: 1. Exploring publicness' in the Right to Be Forgotten Rulings 2. Other topics
17:30 - 18:30 General: Emerging issues
=====Proposed program for Day 0==========
Regards, Kelvin
On 4/20/16, 2:32 PM, "Apilp_planning on behalf of Kelvin Wong" <apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia <javascript:;> on behalf of kelvin.wong@icann.org <javascript:;>> wrote:
Thanks Yannis for this.
On Paul’s note below, I think it will be great to have Chat in this too, to add more perspective.
Just to point out a small typo - I think you meant "14:00 - 14:30 - Technical: Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network Security”. Revised programme looks good to me, and we can use this as the base for discussion.
Peng Hwa, should we be including any others from APILP into this planning group?
Thanks.
Regards, Kelvin
On 4/20/16, 1:32 PM, "Apilp_planning on behalf of Yannis Li" <apilp_planning-bounces@jerry.dot.asia <javascript:;> on behalf of yannis@registry.asia <javascript:;>> wrote:
Dear All,
Just want to let you know that planning@apilp.asia <javascript:;> has been activated.
Let me know if I should go ahead to add Chat or Paul you would talk to her first.
Thanks.
Best Regards,
Yannis Li DotAsia Organisation Ltd. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------------------- Address: 12F, Daily House, 35-37 Haiphong Road, Tsim Sha Tsui, Hong Kong Tel: +852 2244 7920 ︳Fax: +852 2244 7902 ︳http://www.dot.asia <http://www.dot.asia/>
On 19 Apr 2016, at 3:45 PM, Paul Wilson <pwilson@apnic.net <javascript:;>> wrote:
Thanks kelvin and all.
Glad to see this and to know that the issue of Civil Society presence is agreed.
This programme is a great start but before setting anything in stone, I would suggest to bring the right people into this discussion. After all it is not just an issue of civil society “content” but also “participation” in this process.
I suggest Chat Garcia, who is already active on the MSG, would be the right person to invite into this group in the short term. The future particuipation in the mailing list can continue to emerge as well of course.
Are you all OK to invite Chat at this stage?
One other comment:
This agenda is very packed and I feel that the allocation of 2 90-minutes slots to the technical community is not quite fair. Perhaps if we spent 60 minutes on IANA transiti9on and then 60 on my presentation, then this would free up time for others.
If Hong is happy to be identified as “Academic” then perhaps she should join in with the technical community, with her session scheduled before the afternoon coffee break. Then, we could leave the final session (16.00-17.30) for the Civil Society issues.
It would look something like this:
09:00 - 10:30 General: 1. Introduction to Internet Governance & Multistakeholder Model 2. Introduction to APrIGF/MSG (and outcome document?)
10:30 - 11:00 Coffee Break
11:00 - 12:00 Technical: IANA transition 12:00 - 12.30 Technical: Basics of Critical Internet Resources (DNS/IP addresses etc)
12:30 - 14:00 Lunch
14:00 - 15:30 Technical: Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network Security 14.30 - 15.30 Academic: Internet User's Rights (privacy and access to knowledge)
15:30 - 16:00 Coffee Break
16:00 - 17:30 Civil Society: 1. Exploring publicness' in the Right to Be Forgotten Rulings 2. Other topics 17:30 - 18:30 General: Emerging issues
Any thoughts?
Paul.
On 18 Apr 2016, at 17:50, Kelvin Wong wrote:
Hi Paul,
Thanks for starting this conversation. APILP chair is currently Peng Hwa, and we¹d be happy to continue to support.
Peng Hwa and I discussed about the program following the MSG meeting last week and we¹ve come up with the attached program - glad that we¹ve reached a similar conclusion that we can beef up the civil society part! The ones in red are proposed and new, and I hope answers the question on the ³civil society² deficiency well. For this, we took the liberty of looking at some of the workshops that are higher ranking but fell out of the top 30, and aligns well with what we think is useful as a segment in APILP. The program is open to discussion of course, and we can float this to planning@apilp.asia <javascript:;> (and thereafter to MSG?).
Looking at the program, since this has been decided to be a full day program on Day 0, I¹m wondering if coffee (and/or lunch) will also be provided for the participants/lecturers, as per the main conference days?
Happy to hear views. Thanks.
Regards, Kelvin
On 4/18/16, 3:04 PM, "Paul Wilson" <pwilson@apnic.net <javascript:;>> wrote:
Hi all,
Now that we have the decision to hold APILP on Day 0, we need to finalise that schedule and announce it so that we can improve participation. We also need to finalise the programme.
I¹d like to suggest an APILP organisers¹ mailing list so that we have easier and more regular contact; it should also allow others to join. Yannis, can Dotasia set that up? something like planning@apilp.asia <javascript:;>
On the quesiton of programme, I feel we have a deficiency with a lack of ³civil society² representation and content; so I want to propose to involve additional organisers who can contribute a unit about social issues such as freedom of expression, access, gender etc. I think this is really very necessary, and I hope we can agree to accomodate that on Day 0 as well.
For clarity, can we confirm someone to formally chair this group? Peng Hwa, is that you? Or Kelvin?
Thanks all,
Paul.
_______________________________________________________________________ _ Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC dg@apnic.net <javascript:;> http://www.apnic.net <http://www.apnic.net/> @apnicdg
________________________________________________________________________ Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC dg@apnic.net <javascript:;> http://www.apnic.net <http://www.apnic.net/> @apnicdg
_______________________________________________ Apilp_planning mailing list Apilp_planning@jerry.dot.asia <javascript:;> https://mailman.dotasia.org/mailman/listinfo/apilp_planning <https://mailman.dotasia.org/mailman/listinfo/apilp_planning>
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Kuo-Wei Wu -
Paul Wilson -
Wu Kuo-Wei
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Yannis Li