Dear Kevin, I think this is quite comprehensive curriculum to complete within a day. In a longer run it's better arrange a summer school to cover these topics. Thanks Regards. Eranga On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 7:59 AM, YJ Park <yjpark@sunykorea.ac.kr> wrote:

Dear Kelvin,

Thank you for your efforts and coordination.

I would like to nominate Izumi and Hong as Vice Chairs in a formal manner together with Peng Hwa as chair. They will be a great team for APILP.

Best, YJ

2015-02-11 10:20 GMT+09:00 Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org>:

...

Dear all,

Some of us are gathered here in Singapore at the ICANN52 meeting, and while we did not have a formal face-to-face session on APILP, we are glad to have the opportunity to receive some feedback and exchange ideas with some of you on the APILP program.

Some of the proposals are below:

- *General:* Following the first run of the APILP in APrIGF in India in Aug 2014, APILP should be more integrated to this regional platform as a capacity-building track, in Day 0 of the APrIGF. This is taking into consideration the catchment of the audience, and predictability in timing. When the annual APrIGF travels across AP region, we’ll also be able to reach different regions. - The YIGF (Youth IGF, a concurrently running program with the APrIGF) audience to be invited also to the APILP as the content will be useful to bring them up to speed.

- *Curriculum*: The curriculum for the APILP should be fairly consistent along the following, roughly in line with what was done in APrIGF 2014: - Governance track - Internet Governance Ecosystem - IG History - Technical track - Basic topics related to internet security - Fundamentals of DNS, IP Addressing - Emerging issues - Such as updates on development on IANA transition, new gTLD, etc

- *Vice Chairs*: Nominate Vice Chairs to assist in these tasks. Two names have been surfaced for 2 Vice Chairs – Izumi Aizu and Hong Xue

Please let me know if you have any comments on the above.

Regards, Kelvin Secretariat for APILP

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Dear Kelvin and all, It is a great idea to integrate the APILP systematically into the APrIGF. I had hoped that we could take this to other fora as well, and had earlier this year suggested that we try to have a session at RightsCon in Manila in March also. However, I think too few of us had planned to be present there to make this work for now. A yearly one-day session at the APrIGF is a great start (though I can also see the point that in the medium to longer term, we probably need to start thinking about a longer event, of the summer school type, instead!). As for the curriculum, would it be possible to add human rights and the Internet as well? This topic remains a considerable challenge across the region, and I believe different communities (including the business and technical communities) would benefit from capacity building on this issue. I would be happy to contribute on this, as well as on Internet governance as before. With best regards, Anja On 15 February 2015 at 12:09, Leonid TODOROV <l.todorov@aptld.org> wrote:

Dear All-

I am new GM APTLD, and some of you may have come to know me for quite a while. In my new capacity, I am keen to be of help. It is going to take me some time to catch up with all the developments in the region, but from now on you can count on me (though I will not be able to assume vice-presidency , I am afraid. The curriculum looks fine, with a zoom-in exercise to follow, I presume. And I can do something on IG at the Forum if need be

Best,

Leonid Todorov l.todorov@aptld.org

On 12 February 2015 at 10:03, Eranga Samararathna <erangac@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Dear Kevin,

I think this is quite comprehensive curriculum to complete within a day. In a longer run it's better arrange a summer school to cover these topics.

Thanks

Regards.

Eranga

On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 7:59 AM, YJ Park <yjpark@sunykorea.ac.kr> wrote:

...

Dear Kelvin,

Thank you for your efforts and coordination.

I would like to nominate Izumi and Hong as Vice Chairs in a formal manner together with Peng Hwa as chair. They will be a great team for APILP.

Best, YJ

2015-02-11 10:20 GMT+09:00 Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org>:

...

Dear all,

Some of us are gathered here in Singapore at the ICANN52 meeting, and while we did not have a formal face-to-face session on APILP, we are glad to have the opportunity to receive some feedback and exchange ideas with some of you on the APILP program.

Some of the proposals are below:

- *General:* Following the first run of the APILP in APrIGF in India in Aug 2014, APILP should be more integrated to this regional platform as a capacity-building track, in Day 0 of the APrIGF. This is taking into consideration the catchment of the audience, and predictability in timing. When the annual APrIGF travels across AP region, we’ll also be able to reach different regions. - The YIGF (Youth IGF, a concurrently running program with the APrIGF) audience to be invited also to the APILP as the content will be useful to bring them up to speed.

- *Curriculum*: The curriculum for the APILP should be fairly consistent along the following, roughly in line with what was done in APrIGF 2014: - Governance track - Internet Governance Ecosystem - IG History - Technical track - Basic topics related to internet security - Fundamentals of DNS, IP Addressing - Emerging issues - Such as updates on development on IANA transition, new gTLD, etc

- *Vice Chairs*: Nominate Vice Chairs to assist in these tasks. Two names have been surfaced for 2 Vice Chairs – Izumi Aizu and Hong Xue

Please let me know if you have any comments on the above.

Regards, Kelvin Secretariat for APILP

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Dear All, Happy the New Year of Sheep/Goat/Ram! Thanks for all the thoughtful and insightful comments. Regarding the framework of the curriculum, I completely support Anja's suggestion to add a "legal or policy track" that could cover the critical issues of HR, data protection, user rights, IPR, dispute resolution, liabilities and law enforcement, etc. Otherwise, we would have to spam all these essential topics into "emerging issues". I also support the suggestions on future development of APILP. In addition to the yearly one-day event affiliated with APrIGF, I believe it do not exclude any other CB initiatives in other form and at other venue, as far as they serve the AP community. For example, I had organized APILP Beijing (3-day event) twice and invited Izumi and Penghua to teach there. It worked well. Best, Hong Professor Dr. Hong Xue Director of Beijing Normal University Institute for Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Co-Director of UNCITRAL-BNU Joint Certificate Program on International E-Commerce Law http://www.iipl.org.cn/ 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> wrote:

Dear all,

Thanks for all your comments. Good to hear feedback on the curriculum – those we listed are for reference on the basic tracks that we can have and we’ll certainly need to have a more in depth discussion on this, and/or have a smaller group to help drill down on the curriculum planning based on the needs of the regional community, and the time required. Of course, comments are always welcome as usual.

For Dr. Anja, ICANN will be at RightsCon in Manila and we’ll be running a session on ICANN topic such as the IANA transition issue, just to share. Hope to see you there. And yes, you’re right, the proposal below is for APILP for now to be tied to a regular regional event, in APrIGF.

Would anyone have further comments on this or other aspects of my note below, such as that with regard to the Vice Chairs?

And for those celebrating it, have a great Lunar New Year/Spring Festival/Seollal! Kung Hei Fat Choy!

Best regards, Kelvin

From: Anja Kovacs <anja@internetdemocracy.in> Date: Monday, February 16, 2015 at 4:03 AM To: Leonid TODOROV <l.todorov@aptld.org> Cc: "apilp_discuss@apilp.asia" <apilp_discuss@apilp.asia> Subject: Re: [Apilp_discuss] Proposals and feedback on Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program (APILP) @ICANN52

Dear Kelvin and all,

It is a great idea to integrate the APILP systematically into the APrIGF. I had hoped that we could take this to other fora as well, and had earlier this year suggested that we try to have a session at RightsCon in Manila in March also. However, I think too few of us had planned to be present there to make this work for now. A yearly one-day session at the APrIGF is a great start (though I can also see the point that in the medium to longer term, we probably need to start thinking about a longer event, of the summer school type, instead!).

As for the curriculum, would it be possible to add human rights and the Internet as well? This topic remains a considerable challenge across the region, and I believe different communities (including the business and technical communities) would benefit from capacity building on this issue. I would be happy to contribute on this, as well as on Internet governance as before.

With best regards, Anja

On 15 February 2015 at 12:09, Leonid TODOROV <l.todorov@aptld.org> wrote:

...

Dear All-

I am new GM APTLD, and some of you may have come to know me for quite a while. In my new capacity, I am keen to be of help. It is going to take me some time to catch up with all the developments in the region, but from now on you can count on me (though I will not be able to assume vice-presidency , I am afraid. The curriculum looks fine, with a zoom-in exercise to follow, I presume. And I can do something on IG at the Forum if need be

Best,

Leonid Todorov l.todorov@aptld.org

On 12 February 2015 at 10:03, Eranga Samararathna <erangac@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Dear Kevin,

I think this is quite comprehensive curriculum to complete within a day. In a longer run it's better arrange a summer school to cover these topics.

Thanks

Regards.

Eranga

On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 7:59 AM, YJ Park <yjpark@sunykorea.ac.kr> wrote:

...

Dear Kelvin,

Thank you for your efforts and coordination.

I would like to nominate Izumi and Hong as Vice Chairs in a formal manner together with Peng Hwa as chair. They will be a great team for APILP.

Best, YJ

2015-02-11 10:20 GMT+09:00 Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org>:

...

Dear all,

Some of us are gathered here in Singapore at the ICANN52 meeting, and while we did not have a formal face-to-face session on APILP, we are glad to have the opportunity to receive some feedback and exchange ideas with some of you on the APILP program.

Some of the proposals are below:

- *General:* Following the first run of the APILP in APrIGF in India in Aug 2014, APILP should be more integrated to this regional platform as a capacity-building track, in Day 0 of the APrIGF. This is taking into consideration the catchment of the audience, and predictability in timing. When the annual APrIGF travels across AP region, we’ll also be able to reach different regions. - The YIGF (Youth IGF, a concurrently running program with the APrIGF) audience to be invited also to the APILP as the content will be useful to bring them up to speed.

- *Curriculum*: The curriculum for the APILP should be fairly consistent along the following, roughly in line with what was done in APrIGF 2014: - Governance track - Internet Governance Ecosystem - IG History - Technical track - Basic topics related to internet security - Fundamentals of DNS, IP Addressing - Emerging issues - Such as updates on development on IANA transition, new gTLD, etc

- *Vice Chairs*: Nominate Vice Chairs to assist in these tasks. Two names have been surfaced for 2 Vice Chairs – Izumi Aizu and Hong Xue

Please let me know if you have any comments on the above.

Regards, Kelvin Secretariat for APILP

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Dear Kelvin, " IANA Stewardship Transition" has been proposed to be one of the "Main Sessions" and most probably would be accepted by MSG. I wonder whether we want to duplicate the same topic on Day 3. Or, our proposal will be asked to merge with the Main session. I suggest, instead, add back the "policy/legal track" on Day 3. I am sure there are many "suitable topics and speakers for this". At least, I'm willing to do this. Hong Professor Dr. Hong Xue Director of Beijing Normal University Institute for Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Co-Director of UNCITRAL-BNU Joint Certificate Program on International E-Commerce Law http://www.iipl.org.cn/ 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> wrote:

Dear all,

Thanks again for your comments on the proposed direction for the curriculum. Based on what was shared earlier in Feb, and the proposed themes of the APrIGF 2015, APILP Chair and secretariat have come up with an initial draft of a proposed workshop proposal for the APrIGF. Please see the draft workshop proposal attached.

Some key points:

- To better integrate into the APrIGF, we propose to have 3 sessions (of 90 mins) spread over the 3 conference days, instead of having one pre-event - Proposed sessions are in line with the draft curriculum we shared earlier, and is intended to provide primers to audience attending APrIGF over the conference period. There is also some deliberate alignment with the themes/topics of the current APrIGF - Some members have asked for a legal/policy track – we’ve not included this (yet) but if there are suitable topics and speakers for this, we could explore doing this together with say Day 2 or Day 3 workshop.

Please let us know if you have any feedback on this. There was also an idea during the face-to-face APILP meeting in APrIGF 2014 to have a smaller curriculum work group to look into curriculum planning and suitable speakers – please let us know if you are able to contribute to this too.

Thank you.

Regards, Kelvin Wong APILP Secretariat

=====Key points of the proposals appended below=====

*Pre-event or Main Session:*

Main conference Session (Jul 1-3)

*Workshop title:*

Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program (APILP) – Day 1 – (General) Overview of Internet Governance – History and Current global development.

*Specific Issues of Discussion and Description:*

Close to half of the world’s 3 billion internet users are now in the Asia Pacific region, and there’s no guessing where most of the next billion is going to come from. Hear from the region’s renowned speakers on a wide range of issues: What is Internet Governance? What are the key milestones that have shaped the world’s thinking on Internet Governance? What is the Internet really and how does it work? Who runs the Internet now and what is at stake here? Why should you care?

Day 1 covers general Internet Governance issues such as Overview of Internet Governance – History and Current global development, as well as emerging issues. This session will help you better understand the key drivers and important milestones in the world of Internet Governance past, present and beyond.

*Workshop Proposal 2*

*Workshop title*:

APILP (Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program) - Day 2 - (Technical) Domain Name System; Critical Internet Resources

*Specific Issues of Discussion and Description:*

Day 2 of the APILP covers technical topics on the Domain Name System; Critical Internet Resources (IP addresses, IPv4/6). Have a question on how the Internet works, what goes into the addressing system of the Internet; and what are the challenges in maintaining a single, stable and secure Internet? This session will provide a concise background on the workings and backbone of the Internet resources.

*Workshop Proposal 3*

*Workshop title: *

APILP (Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program) – Day 3 – (Emerging Issues) IANA Stewardship Transition (TBC)

*Specific Issues of Discussion and Description:*

Day 3 of the APILP provides the background to and updates on the IANA Stewardship Transition that have started since the announcement by the US Government on the transition of key Internet domain name functions to the global multistakeholder community. This session will update the community on the community-led effort, as well as the proposals/comments that have come in for the two parallel tracks of IANA Stewardship Transition and Enhancing ICANN’s Accountability.

======

From: Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com> Date: Sunday, February 22, 2015 at 4:58 PM To: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> Cc: Anja Kovacs <anja@internetdemocracy.in>, Leonid TODOROV < l.todorov@aptld.org>, "apilp_discuss@apilp.asia" <apilp_discuss@apilp.asia

...

Subject: Re: [Apilp_discuss] Proposals and feedback on Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program (APILP) @ICANN52

Dear All,

Happy the New Year of Sheep/Goat/Ram!

Thanks for all the thoughtful and insightful comments.

Regarding the framework of the curriculum, I completely support Anja's suggestion to add a "legal or policy track" that could cover the critical issues of HR, data protection, user rights, IPR, dispute resolution, liabilities and law enforcement, etc. Otherwise, we would have to spam all these essential topics into "emerging issues".

I also support the suggestions on future development of APILP. In addition to the yearly one-day event affiliated with APrIGF, I believe it do not exclude any other CB initiatives in other form and at other venue, as far as they serve the AP community. For example, I had organized APILP Beijing (3-day event) twice and invited Izumi and Penghua to teach there. It worked well.

Best,

Hong

Professor Dr. Hong Xue Director of Beijing Normal University Institute for Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Co-Director of UNCITRAL-BNU Joint Certificate Program on International E-Commerce Law http://www.iipl.org.cn/ 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China

On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> wrote:

...

Dear all,

Thanks for all your comments. Good to hear feedback on the curriculum – those we listed are for reference on the basic tracks that we can have and we’ll certainly need to have a more in depth discussion on this, and/or have a smaller group to help drill down on the curriculum planning based on the needs of the regional community, and the time required. Of course, comments are always welcome as usual.

For Dr. Anja, ICANN will be at RightsCon in Manila and we’ll be running a session on ICANN topic such as the IANA transition issue, just to share. Hope to see you there. And yes, you’re right, the proposal below is for APILP for now to be tied to a regular regional event, in APrIGF.

Would anyone have further comments on this or other aspects of my note below, such as that with regard to the Vice Chairs?

And for those celebrating it, have a great Lunar New Year/Spring Festival/Seollal! Kung Hei Fat Choy!

Best regards, Kelvin

From: Anja Kovacs <anja@internetdemocracy.in> Date: Monday, February 16, 2015 at 4:03 AM To: Leonid TODOROV <l.todorov@aptld.org> Cc: "apilp_discuss@apilp.asia" <apilp_discuss@apilp.asia> Subject: Re: [Apilp_discuss] Proposals and feedback on Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program (APILP) @ICANN52

Dear Kelvin and all,

It is a great idea to integrate the APILP systematically into the APrIGF. I had hoped that we could take this to other fora as well, and had earlier this year suggested that we try to have a session at RightsCon in Manila in March also. However, I think too few of us had planned to be present there to make this work for now. A yearly one-day session at the APrIGF is a great start (though I can also see the point that in the medium to longer term, we probably need to start thinking about a longer event, of the summer school type, instead!).

As for the curriculum, would it be possible to add human rights and the Internet as well? This topic remains a considerable challenge across the region, and I believe different communities (including the business and technical communities) would benefit from capacity building on this issue. I would be happy to contribute on this, as well as on Internet governance as before.

With best regards, Anja

On 15 February 2015 at 12:09, Leonid TODOROV <l.todorov@aptld.org> wrote:

...

Dear All-

I am new GM APTLD, and some of you may have come to know me for quite a while. In my new capacity, I am keen to be of help. It is going to take me some time to catch up with all the developments in the region, but from now on you can count on me (though I will not be able to assume vice-presidency , I am afraid. The curriculum looks fine, with a zoom-in exercise to follow, I presume. And I can do something on IG at the Forum if need be

Best,

Leonid Todorov l.todorov@aptld.org

On 12 February 2015 at 10:03, Eranga Samararathna <erangac@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Dear Kevin,

I think this is quite comprehensive curriculum to complete within a day. In a longer run it's better arrange a summer school to cover these topics.

Thanks

Regards.

Eranga

On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 7:59 AM, YJ Park <yjpark@sunykorea.ac.kr> wrote:

...

Dear Kelvin,

Thank you for your efforts and coordination.

I would like to nominate Izumi and Hong as Vice Chairs in a formal manner together with Peng Hwa as chair. They will be a great team for APILP.

Best, YJ

2015-02-11 10:20 GMT+09:00 Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org>:

...

Dear all,

Some of us are gathered here in Singapore at the ICANN52 meeting, and while we did not have a formal face-to-face session on APILP, we are glad to have the opportunity to receive some feedback and exchange ideas with some of you on the APILP program.

Some of the proposals are below:

- *General:* Following the first run of the APILP in APrIGF in India in Aug 2014, APILP should be more integrated to this regional platform as a capacity-building track, in Day 0 of the APrIGF. This is taking into consideration the catchment of the audience, and predictability in timing. When the annual APrIGF travels across AP region, we’ll also be able to reach different regions. - The YIGF (Youth IGF, a concurrently running program with the APrIGF) audience to be invited also to the APILP as the content will be useful to bring them up to speed.

- *Curriculum*: The curriculum for the APILP should be fairly consistent along the following, roughly in line with what was done in APrIGF 2014: - Governance track - Internet Governance Ecosystem - IG History - Technical track - Basic topics related to internet security - Fundamentals of DNS, IP Addressing - Emerging issues - Such as updates on development on IANA transition, new gTLD, etc

- *Vice Chairs*: Nominate Vice Chairs to assist in these tasks. Two names have been surfaced for 2 Vice Chairs – Izumi Aizu and Hong Xue

Please let me know if you have any comments on the above.

Regards, Kelvin Secretariat for APILP

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Hi, sorry I don't get your point. There is quite some background information to share and discuss on the policies, such as on-going data protection initiatives in many AP countries and economics and their impact on cross-border data flow on the Internet. Hong Professor Dr. Hong Xue Director of Beijing Normal University Institute for Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Co-Director of UNCITRAL-BNU Joint Certificate Program on International E-Commerce Law http://www.iipl.org.cn/ 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 1:04 PM, Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) <TPHANG@ntu.edu.sg> wrote:

Hi Hong.

Actually, Kelvin made the same point. My question though is whether there will be enough background information given at the session. If not, this is what the APILP is for: to provide the background information so that people are brought up to speed.

Regards, Ang Peng Hwa

On 23 Mar 2015, at 12:31 pm, Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Kelvin,

" IANA Stewardship Transition" has been proposed to be one of the "Main Sessions" and most probably would be accepted by MSG. I wonder whether we want to duplicate the same topic on Day 3. Or, our proposal will be asked to merge with the Main session.

I suggest, instead, add back the "policy/legal track" on Day 3. I am sure there are many "suitable topics and speakers for this". At least, I'm willing to do this.

Hong

Professor Dr. Hong Xue Director of Beijing Normal University Institute for Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Co-Director of UNCITRAL-BNU Joint Certificate Program on International E-Commerce Law http://www.iipl.org.cn/ 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China

On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> wrote:

...

Dear all,

Thanks again for your comments on the proposed direction for the curriculum. Based on what was shared earlier in Feb, and the proposed themes of the APrIGF 2015, APILP Chair and secretariat have come up with an initial draft of a proposed workshop proposal for the APrIGF. Please see the draft workshop proposal attached.

Some key points:

- To better integrate into the APrIGF, we propose to have 3 sessions (of 90 mins) spread over the 3 conference days, instead of having one pre-event - Proposed sessions are in line with the draft curriculum we shared earlier, and is intended to provide primers to audience attending APrIGF over the conference period. There is also some deliberate alignment with the themes/topics of the current APrIGF - Some members have asked for a legal/policy track – we’ve not included this (yet) but if there are suitable topics and speakers for this, we could explore doing this together with say Day 2 or Day 3 workshop.

Please let us know if you have any feedback on this. There was also an idea during the face-to-face APILP meeting in APrIGF 2014 to have a smaller curriculum work group to look into curriculum planning and suitable speakers – please let us know if you are able to contribute to this too.

Thank you.

Regards, Kelvin Wong APILP Secretariat

=====Key points of the proposals appended below=====

*Pre-event or Main Session:*

Main conference Session (Jul 1-3)

*Workshop title:*

Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program (APILP) – Day 1 – (General) Overview of Internet Governance – History and Current global development.

*Specific Issues of Discussion and Description:*

Close to half of the world’s 3 billion internet users are now in the Asia Pacific region, and there’s no guessing where most of the next billion is going to come from. Hear from the region’s renowned speakers on a wide range of issues: What is Internet Governance? What are the key milestones that have shaped the world’s thinking on Internet Governance? What is the Internet really and how does it work? Who runs the Internet now and what is at stake here? Why should you care?

Day 1 covers general Internet Governance issues such as Overview of Internet Governance – History and Current global development, as well as emerging issues. This session will help you better understand the key drivers and important milestones in the world of Internet Governance past, present and beyond.

*Workshop Proposal 2*

*Workshop title*:

APILP (Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program) - Day 2 - (Technical) Domain Name System; Critical Internet Resources

*Specific Issues of Discussion and Description:*

Day 2 of the APILP covers technical topics on the Domain Name System; Critical Internet Resources (IP addresses, IPv4/6). Have a question on how the Internet works, what goes into the addressing system of the Internet; and what are the challenges in maintaining a single, stable and secure Internet? This session will provide a concise background on the workings and backbone of the Internet resources.

*Workshop Proposal 3*

*Workshop title: *

APILP (Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program) – Day 3 – (Emerging Issues) IANA Stewardship Transition (TBC)

*Specific Issues of Discussion and Description:*

Day 3 of the APILP provides the background to and updates on the IANA Stewardship Transition that have started since the announcement by the US Government on the transition of key Internet domain name functions to the global multistakeholder community. This session will update the community on the community-led effort, as well as the proposals/comments that have come in for the two parallel tracks of IANA Stewardship Transition and Enhancing ICANN’s Accountability.

======

From: Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com> Date: Sunday, February 22, 2015 at 4:58 PM To: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> Cc: Anja Kovacs <anja@internetdemocracy.in>, Leonid TODOROV < l.todorov@aptld.org>, "apilp_discuss@apilp.asia" < apilp_discuss@apilp.asia> Subject: Re: [Apilp_discuss] Proposals and feedback on Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program (APILP) @ICANN52

Dear All,

Happy the New Year of Sheep/Goat/Ram!

Thanks for all the thoughtful and insightful comments.

Regarding the framework of the curriculum, I completely support Anja's suggestion to add a "legal or policy track" that could cover the critical issues of HR, data protection, user rights, IPR, dispute resolution, liabilities and law enforcement, etc. Otherwise, we would have to spam all these essential topics into "emerging issues".

I also support the suggestions on future development of APILP. In addition to the yearly one-day event affiliated with APrIGF, I believe it do not exclude any other CB initiatives in other form and at other venue, as far as they serve the AP community. For example, I had organized APILP Beijing (3-day event) twice and invited Izumi and Penghua to teach there. It worked well.

Best,

Hong

Professor Dr. Hong Xue Director of Beijing Normal University Institute for Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Co-Director of UNCITRAL-BNU Joint Certificate Program on International E-Commerce Law http://www.iipl.org.cn/ 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China

On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> wrote:

...

Dear all,

Thanks for all your comments. Good to hear feedback on the curriculum – those we listed are for reference on the basic tracks that we can have and we’ll certainly need to have a more in depth discussion on this, and/or have a smaller group to help drill down on the curriculum planning based on the needs of the regional community, and the time required. Of course, comments are always welcome as usual.

For Dr. Anja, ICANN will be at RightsCon in Manila and we’ll be running a session on ICANN topic such as the IANA transition issue, just to share. Hope to see you there. And yes, you’re right, the proposal below is for APILP for now to be tied to a regular regional event, in APrIGF.

Would anyone have further comments on this or other aspects of my note below, such as that with regard to the Vice Chairs?

And for those celebrating it, have a great Lunar New Year/Spring Festival/Seollal! Kung Hei Fat Choy!

Best regards, Kelvin

From: Anja Kovacs <anja@internetdemocracy.in> Date: Monday, February 16, 2015 at 4:03 AM To: Leonid TODOROV <l.todorov@aptld.org> Cc: "apilp_discuss@apilp.asia" <apilp_discuss@apilp.asia> Subject: Re: [Apilp_discuss] Proposals and feedback on Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program (APILP) @ICANN52

Dear Kelvin and all,

It is a great idea to integrate the APILP systematically into the APrIGF. I had hoped that we could take this to other fora as well, and had earlier this year suggested that we try to have a session at RightsCon in Manila in March also. However, I think too few of us had planned to be present there to make this work for now. A yearly one-day session at the APrIGF is a great start (though I can also see the point that in the medium to longer term, we probably need to start thinking about a longer event, of the summer school type, instead!).

As for the curriculum, would it be possible to add human rights and the Internet as well? This topic remains a considerable challenge across the region, and I believe different communities (including the business and technical communities) would benefit from capacity building on this issue. I would be happy to contribute on this, as well as on Internet governance as before.

With best regards, Anja

On 15 February 2015 at 12:09, Leonid TODOROV <l.todorov@aptld.org> wrote:

...

Dear All-

I am new GM APTLD, and some of you may have come to know me for quite a while. In my new capacity, I am keen to be of help. It is going to take me some time to catch up with all the developments in the region, but from now on you can count on me (though I will not be able to assume vice-presidency , I am afraid. The curriculum looks fine, with a zoom-in exercise to follow, I presume. And I can do something on IG at the Forum if need be

Best,

Leonid Todorov l.todorov@aptld.org

On 12 February 2015 at 10:03, Eranga Samararathna <erangac@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Dear Kevin,

I think this is quite comprehensive curriculum to complete within a day. In a longer run it's better arrange a summer school to cover these topics.

Thanks

Regards.

Eranga

On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 7:59 AM, YJ Park <yjpark@sunykorea.ac.kr> wrote:

...

Dear Kelvin,

Thank you for your efforts and coordination.

I would like to nominate Izumi and Hong as Vice Chairs in a formal manner together with Peng Hwa as chair. They will be a great team for APILP.

Best, YJ

2015-02-11 10:20 GMT+09:00 Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org>:

> Dear all, > > Some of us are gathered here in Singapore at the ICANN52 meeting, > and while we did not have a formal face-to-face session on APILP, we are > glad to have the opportunity to receive some feedback and exchange ideas > with some of you on the APILP program. > > Some of the proposals are below: > > - *General:* Following the first run of the APILP in APrIGF in > India in Aug 2014, APILP should be more integrated to this regional > platform as a capacity-building track, in Day 0 of the APrIGF. This is > taking into consideration the catchment of the audience, and predictability > in timing. When the annual APrIGF travels across AP region, we’ll also be > able to reach different regions. > - The YIGF (Youth IGF, a concurrently running program with the > APrIGF) audience to be invited also to the APILP as the content will be > useful to bring them up to speed. > > > - *Curriculum*: The curriculum for the APILP should be fairly > consistent along the following, roughly in line with what was done in > APrIGF 2014: > - Governance track > - Internet Governance Ecosystem > - IG History > - Technical track > - Basic topics related to internet security > - Fundamentals of DNS, IP Addressing > - Emerging issues > - Such as updates on development on IANA transition, new > gTLD, etc > > > - *Vice Chairs*: Nominate Vice Chairs to assist in these tasks. > Two names have been surfaced for 2 Vice Chairs – Izumi Aizu and Hong Xue > > > Please let me know if you have any comments on the above. > > Regards, > Kelvin > Secretariat for APILP > > _______________________________________________ > Apilp_discuss mailing list > Apilp_discuss@apilp.asia > https://mailman.dotasia.org/mailman/listinfo/apilp_discuss > >

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Dear all,

We¹d like to update everyone that the APILP proposals for the upcoming
APrIGF 2015 (Macau) have been accepted, and the provisional agenda has been
published: http://2015.rigf.asia/themes/agenda/. Thanks for your patience!

Based on this, the APILP sessions will be held during each day of the main
conference 1-3 July. Other details below:
* As introductory sessions for some of the discussions in the day, the APILP
sessions will start in the morning of each day, at 0900hrs (1-3 July).
* With the exception of Day 3, the sessions will last 45 mins each, lecture
style.  For Day 3 on "IANA Stewardship Transition / ICANN Accountability² it
will be a 90 mins session, made of two segments: 45 mins of
introduction/update, and 45 mins of discussion time for the AP community.
* YIGF has adopted the APILP sessions as part of their program, and so we
will be joined by 25 regional youth participants for the sessions.
* The agenda and speakers are as follows:
> Day 1  (1 July): 0900-0945: APILP Day 1 ­ (General) Overview of Internet
> Governance ­ History and Current global development
> 
> Day 1 covers general Internet Governance issues such as Overview of Internet
> Governance ­ History and Current global development, as well as emerging
> issues. This session will help you better understand the key drivers and
> important milestones in the world of Internet Governance past, present and
> beyond. 
> 
> Speaker: Prof Ang Peng Hwa Time: 45 mins
> 
> Day 2  (2 July): 0900-0945: APILP Day 2 -  (Technical) Domain Name System;
> Critical Internet Resources
> 
> Day 2 of the APILP covers technical topics on the Domain Name System; Critical
> Internet Resources (IP addresses, IPv4/6). Have a question on how the Internet
> works, what goes into the addressing system of the Internet; and what are the
> challenges in maintaining a single, stable and secure Internet?  This session
> will provide a concise background on the workings and backbone of the Internet
> resources.
> 
> Speaker: Paul Wilson Time: 45 mins
> 
> Day 3  (3 July): 0900-1030: APILP Day 3 ­ (Emerging Issues) IANA Stewardship
> Transition / ICANN Accountability
> 
> Day 3 of the APILP provides the background to and updates on the IANA
> Stewardship Transition that have started since the announcement by the US
> Government on the transition of key Internet domain name functions to the
> global multistakeholder community.   This session will update the community on
> the community-led effort, as well as the proposals/comments that have come in
> for the two parallel tracks of IANA Stewardship Transition and Enhancing
> ICANN¹s Accountability.

> Segment 1: Introduction and Update
> Speaker: Kuek Yu­Chuang Time: 45 mins
> 
> Segment 2: Community Discussion
> Moderator: TBD Time: 45 mins

Please help to spread the word on these sessions. Thanks and looking forward
to seeing you at the APrIGF meetings!

Regards,
Kelvin


From:  Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org>
Date:  Sunday, March 22, 2015 at 4:40 PM
To:  "apilp_discuss@apilp.asia" <apilp_discuss@apilp.asia>
Subject:  Proposed workshop proposal for submission to APrIGF 2015

Dear all,

Thanks again for your comments on the proposed direction for the curriculum.
Based on what was shared earlier in Feb, and the proposed themes of the
APrIGF 2015, APILP Chair and secretariat have come up with an initial draft
of a proposed workshop proposal for the APrIGF.  Please see the draft
workshop proposal attached.

Some key points:
* To better integrate into the APrIGF, we propose to have 3 sessions (of 90
mins) spread over the 3 conference days, instead of having one pre-event
* Proposed sessions are in line with the draft curriculum we shared earlier,
and is intended to provide primers to audience attending APrIGF over the
conference period. There is also some deliberate alignment with the
themes/topics of the current APrIGF
* Some members have asked for a legal/policy track ­ we¹ve not included this
(yet) but if there are suitable topics and speakers for this, we could
explore doing this together with say Day 2 or Day 3 workshop.
Please let us know if you have any feedback on this. There was also an idea
during the face-to-face APILP meeting in APrIGF 2014 to have a smaller
curriculum work group to look into curriculum planning and suitable speakers
­ please let us know if you are able to contribute to this too.

Thank you.

Regards,
Kelvin Wong
APILP Secretariat

=====Key points of the proposals appended below=====

Pre-event  or Main Session:
Main conference Session (Jul 1-3)
 
Workshop title:  
Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program (APILP) ­ Day 1 ­ (General)
Overview of Internet Governance ­ History and Current global development.
 
Specific Issues of Discussion and Description:
 
Close to half of the world¹s 3 billion internet users are now in the Asia
Pacific region, and there¹s no guessing where most of the next billion is
going to come from.  Hear from the region¹s renowned speakers on a wide
range of issues: What is Internet Governance? What are the key milestones
that have shaped the world¹s thinking on Internet Governance? What is the
Internet really and how does it work? Who runs the Internet now and what is
at stake here? Why should you care?
 
Day 1 covers general Internet Governance issues such as Overview of Internet
Governance ­ History and Current global development, as well as emerging
issues. This session will help you better understand the key drivers and
important milestones in the world of Internet Governance past, present and
beyond. 
 
Workshop Proposal 2
 
Workshop title:  
APILP (Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program) - Day 2 -  (Technical)
Domain Name System; Critical Internet Resources
 
Specific Issues of Discussion and Description:
 
Day 2 of the APILP covers technical topics on the Domain Name System;
Critical Internet Resources (IP addresses, IPv4/6). Have a question on how
the Internet works, what goes into the addressing system of the Internet;
and what are the challenges in maintaining a single, stable and secure
Internet?  This session will provide a concise background on the workings
and backbone of the Internet resources.
 
Workshop Proposal 3
 
Workshop title:  
APILP (Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program) ­ Day 3 ­ (Emerging Issues)
IANA Stewardship Transition (TBC)
 
Specific Issues of Discussion and Description:
 
Day 3 of the APILP provides the background to and updates on the IANA
Stewardship Transition that have started since the announcement by the US
Government on the transition of key Internet domain name functions to the
global multistakeholder community.   This session will update the community
on the community-led effort, as well as the proposals/comments that have
come in for the two parallel tracks of IANA Stewardship Transition and
Enhancing ICANN¹s Accountability.
 
======



From:  Hong Xue <hongxueipr@gmail.com>
Date:  Sunday, February 22, 2015 at 4:58 PM
To:  Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org>
Cc:  Anja Kovacs <anja@internetdemocracy.in>, Leonid TODOROV
<l.todorov@aptld.org>, "apilp_discuss@apilp.asia" <apilp_discuss@apilp.asia>
Subject:  Re: [Apilp_discuss] Proposals and feedback on Asia Pacific
Internet Leadership Program (APILP) @ICANN52

Dear All, 

Happy the New Year of Sheep/Goat/Ram!

Thanks for all the thoughtful and insightful comments.

Regarding the framework of the curriculum, I completely support Anja's
suggestion to add a "legal or policy track" that could cover the critical
issues of HR, data protection, user rights, IPR, dispute resolution,
liabilities and law enforcement, etc. Otherwise, we would have to spam all
these essential topics into "emerging issues".

I also support the suggestions on future development of APILP. In addition
to the yearly one-day event affiliated with APrIGF, I believe it do not
exclude any other CB initiatives in other form and at other venue, as far as
they serve the AP community. For example, I had organized APILP Beijing
(3-day event) twice and invited Izumi and Penghua to teach there. It worked
well. 

Best,

Hong






Professor Dr. Hong Xue
Director of Beijing Normal University Institute for Internet Policy & Law
(IIPL) 
Co-Director of UNCITRAL-BNU Joint Certificate Program on International
E-Commerce Law
http://www.iipl.org.cn/
19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street
Beijing 100875 China

On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org> wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> Thanks for all your comments.  Good to hear feedback on the curriculum ­ those
> we listed are for reference on the basic tracks that we can have and we¹ll
> certainly need to have a more in depth discussion on this, and/or have a
> smaller group to help drill down on the curriculum planning based on the needs
> of the regional community, and the time required. Of course, comments are
> always welcome as usual.
> 
> For Dr. Anja, ICANN will be at RightsCon in Manila and we¹ll be running a
> session on ICANN topic such as the IANA transition issue, just to share. Hope
> to see you there. And yes, you¹re right, the proposal below is for APILP for
> now to be tied to a regular regional event, in APrIGF.
> 
> Would anyone have further comments on this or other aspects of my note below,
> such as that with regard to the Vice Chairs?
> 
> And for those celebrating it, have a great Lunar New Year/Spring
> Festival/Seollal! Kung Hei Fat Choy!
> 
> Best regards,
> Kelvin
> 
> 
> From: Anja Kovacs <anja@internetdemocracy.in>
> Date: Monday, February 16, 2015 at 4:03 AM
> To: Leonid TODOROV <l.todorov@aptld.org>
> Cc: "apilp_discuss@apilp.asia" <apilp_discuss@apilp.asia>
> Subject: Re: [Apilp_discuss] Proposals and feedback on Asia Pacific Internet
> Leadership Program (APILP) @ICANN52
> 
> Dear Kelvin and all,
> 
> It is a great idea to integrate the APILP systematically into the APrIGF. I
> had hoped that we could take this to other fora as well, and had earlier this
> year suggested that we try to have a session at RightsCon in Manila in March
> also. However, I think too few of us had planned to be present there to make
> this work for now. A yearly one-day session at the APrIGF is a great start
> (though I can also see the point that in the medium to longer term, we
> probably need to start thinking about a longer event, of the summer school
> type, instead!). 
> 
> As for the curriculum, would it be possible to add human rights and the
> Internet as well? This topic remains a considerable challenge across the
> region, and I believe different communities (including the business and
> technical communities) would benefit from capacity building on this issue. I
> would be happy to contribute on this, as well as on Internet governance as
> before.
> 
> With best regards,
> Anja
> 
> 
> 
> On 15 February 2015 at 12:09, Leonid TODOROV <l.todorov@aptld.org> wrote:
>> Dear All-
>> 
>>  I am new GM APTLD, and some of you may have come to know me for quite a
>> while. In my new capacity, I am keen to be of help. It is going to take me
>> some time to catch up with all the developments in the region, but from now
>> on you can count on me (though I will not be able to assume vice-presidency ,
>> I am afraid.
>> The curriculum looks fine, with a zoom-in exercise to follow, I presume. And
>> I can do something on IG at the Forum if need be
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Leonid Todorov
>> l.todorov@aptld.org
>> 
>> On 12 February 2015 at 10:03, Eranga Samararathna <erangac@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Dear Kevin,
>>> 
>>> I think this is quite comprehensive curriculum to complete within a day. In
>>> a longer run it's better arrange a summer school to cover these topics.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Regards.
>>> 
>>> Eranga
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 7:59 AM, YJ Park <yjpark@sunykorea.ac.kr> wrote:
>>>> Dear Kelvin, 
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you for your efforts and coordination.
>>>> 
>>>> I would like to nominate Izumi and Hong as Vice Chairs in a formal manner
>>>> together with Peng Hwa as chair.
>>>> They will be a great team for APILP.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> YJ  
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 2015-02-11 10:20 GMT+09:00 Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org>:
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Some of us are gathered here in Singapore at the ICANN52 meeting, and
>>>>> while we did not have a formal face-to-face session on APILP, we are glad
>>>>> to have the opportunity to receive some feedback and exchange ideas with
>>>>> some of you on the APILP program.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Some of the proposals are below:
>>>>> * General: Following the first run of the APILP in APrIGF in India in Aug
>>>>> 2014, APILP should be more integrated to this regional platform as a
>>>>> capacity-building track, in Day 0 of the APrIGF. This is taking into
>>>>> consideration the catchment of the audience, and predictability in timing.
>>>>> When the annual APrIGF travels across AP region, we¹ll also be able to
>>>>> reach different regions.
>>>>> * The YIGF (Youth IGF, a concurrently running program with the APrIGF)
>>>>> audience to be invited also to the APILP as the content will be useful to
>>>>> bring them up to speed.
>>>>> * Curriculum: The curriculum for the APILP should be fairly consistent
>>>>> along the following, roughly in line with what was done in APrIGF 2014:
>>>>>> * Governance track
>>>>>>> * Internet Governance Ecosystem
>>>>>>> * IG History
>>>>>> * Technical track
>>>>>>> * Basic topics related to internet security
>>>>>>> * Fundamentals of DNS, IP Addressing
>>>>>> * Emerging issues
>>>>>>> * Such as updates on development on IANA transition, new gTLD, etc
>>>>> * Vice Chairs: Nominate Vice Chairs to assist in these tasks. Two names
>>>>> have been surfaced for 2 Vice Chairs ­ Izumi Aizu and Hong Xue
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please let me know if you have any comments on the above.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Kelvin
>>>>> Secretariat for APILP
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Apilp_discuss mailing list
>>>>> Apilp_discuss@apilp.asia
>>>>> https://mailman.dotasia.org/mailman/listinfo/apilp_discuss
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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