Fwd: For discussion: Draft Terms of Reference for Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program (APILP)
Dear Peter, well received. Thanks for your comments and edits! Circulating to APILP (for now) mailing list. Regards, Kelvin Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: From: Peter Dengate Thrush <barrister@chambers.gen.nz<mailto:barrister@chambers.gen.nz>> Date: 6 May, 2014 12:04:40 am GMT+9 To: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org<mailto:kelvin.wong@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Apilp_discuss] For discussion: Draft Terms of Reference for Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program (APILP) Kelvin I seem to be having trouble posting to the list - please forward this for me - thanks regards Peter Thanks Kelvin, This is an excellent start - it seems to have been a productive meeting at ICANN Singapore, and I am sorry I missed it. I have made some suggested changes in Version 3 of the document which I attach. In proposing these, I note first how much easier it is to critique other's work than it it is to create it - thanks again for the first draft, which sets the scene very effectively. Other than some changes such as numbering and some grammar edits, I think there could be some productive discussion about a couple of items: 1. The name - as its about Internet Governance, it seems sensible to me to include that in the name of the document and the name of the exercise. Its not just about "Internet Leadership" which is being done in many areas, of registry management, law, security etc, but specifically about IG. I think its healthier to acknowledge and display that focus. 2. I am not accustomed to describing the Asia Pacific area as "APAC", so started to re-name it AP - but didn't continue....happy to defer if there is a widespread acceptance of that abbreviation. 3. I am somewhat concerned at the current focus on the domain name industry: I have highlit the term a few times. I think both that there is more to the IG topic than that, and also that the domain name industry can be expected to be busy taking care of itself through such organisations as APTLD, ICANN and the newly formed Domain Name Association ( "DNA"). Although I think we need to be careful about opening the door to an unlimited range of topics, I have added IP address allocation mechanisms, multistakeholderism, online human rights, network security and network neutrality as possible topics. In any event, these should be signals, rather than instructions to those who will eventually draft the actual curriculum. 4. I have separated out and made clearer the tasks of preparing the curriculum from preparing business and financial plans to support it. I hope these suggestion might be thought useful in furthering the discussion - thanks. Regards Peter
Thanks to Peter's insightful and thoughtful comments. I've some thoughts. See below. 1. The name - as its about Internet Governance, it seems sensible to me to
include that in the name of the document and the name of the exercise. Its not just about "Internet Leadership" which is being done in many areas, of registry management, law, security etc, but specifically about IG. I think its healthier to acknowledge and display that focus.
Good point. Perhaps we could consider the alternative name something like "AP Internet Governance School or Institute".
2. I am not accustomed to describing the Asia Pacific area as "APAC", so started to re-name it AP - but didn't continue....happy to defer if there is a widespread acceptance of that abbreviation.
Completely agree.
3. I am somewhat concerned at the current focus on the domain name industry: I have highlit the term a few times. I think both that there is more to the IG topic than that, and also that the domain name industry can be expected to be busy taking care of itself through such organisations as APTLD, ICANN and the newly formed Domain Name Association ( "DNA"). Although I think we need to be careful about opening the door to an unlimited range of topics, I have added IP address allocation mechanisms, multistakeholderism, online human rights, network security and network neutrality as possible topics. In any event, these should be signals, rather than instructions to those who will eventually draft the actual curriculum.
Definitely, I think e-commerce (involving consumer protection, privacy and
security in big data and cloud computing, etc.) industry is another big stakeholder that we should engage.
4. I have separated out and made clearer the tasks of preparing the curriculum from preparing business and financial plans to support it.
Yes.
Hong
Dear Kelvin, Thanks for circulating the ToR v3 for comments and thanks to Peter for providing his suggested changes. APNIC suggested changes are in the attached version 4 document. With regards to APILP or APIGLP, we prefer with APILP as it is broad and inclusive which can cover a number of topics. 5.1.a This is a very important and is a very big job but who will do it? Regards Sunny On 6/05/2014 7:02 PM, Kelvin Wong wrote:
Dear Peter, well received. Thanks for your comments and edits! Circulating to APILP (for now) mailing list.
Regards, Kelvin
Sent from my iPad
Begin forwarded message:
*From:* Peter Dengate Thrush <barrister@chambers.gen.nz <mailto:barrister@chambers.gen.nz>> *Date:* 6 May, 2014 12:04:40 am GMT+9 *To:* Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org <mailto:kelvin.wong@icann.org>> *Subject:* *Re: [Apilp_discuss] For discussion: Draft Terms of Reference for Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program (APILP)*
Kelvin I seem to be having trouble posting to the list - please forward this for me - thanks
regards
Peter
Thanks Kelvin, This is an excellent start - it seems to have been a productive meeting at ICANN Singapore, and I am sorry I missed it.
I have made some suggested changes in Version 3 of the document which I attach. In proposing these, I note first how much easier it is to critique other's work than it it is to create it - thanks again for the first draft, which sets the scene very effectively.
Other than some changes such as numbering and some grammar edits, I think there could be some productive discussion about a couple of items:
1. The name - as its about Internet Governance, it seems sensible to me to include that in the name of the document and the name of the exercise. Its not just about "Internet Leadership" which is being done in many areas, of registry management, law, security etc, but specifically about IG. I think its healthier to acknowledge and display that focus.
2. I am not accustomed to describing the Asia Pacific area as "APAC", so started to re-name it AP - but didn't continue....happy to defer if there is a widespread acceptance of that abbreviation.
3. I am somewhat concerned at the current focus on the domain name industry: I have highlit the term a few times. I think both that there is more to the IG topic than that, and also that the domain name industry can be expected to be busy taking care of itself through such organisations as APTLD, ICANN and the newly formed Domain Name Association ( "DNA"). Although I think we need to be careful about opening the door to an unlimited range of topics, I have added IP address allocation mechanisms, multistakeholderism, online human rights, network security and network neutrality as possible topics. In any event, these should be signals, rather than instructions to those who will eventually draft the actual curriculum.
4. I have separated out and made clearer the tasks of preparing the curriculum from preparing business and financial plans to support it.
I hope these suggestion might be thought useful in furthering the discussion - thanks.
Regards
Peter
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Thanks, Sunny, the modifications look very good. Regarding 5.1, yes we would need to compose the WG sooner rather than later. Hong Professor Dr. Hong Xue Director of Beijing Normal University Institute for Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Co-Director of UNCITRAL-BNU Joint Certificate Program on International E-Commerce Law http://www.iipl.org.cn/ 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Srinivas Chendi <sunny@apnic.net> wrote:
Dear Kelvin,
Thanks for circulating the ToR v3 for comments and thanks to Peter for providing his suggested changes.
APNIC suggested changes are in the attached version 4 document.
With regards to APILP or APIGLP, we prefer with APILP as it is broad and inclusive which can cover a number of topics.
5.1.a This is a very important and is a very big job but who will do it?
Regards Sunny
On 6/05/2014 7:02 PM, Kelvin Wong wrote:
Dear Peter, well received. Thanks for your comments and edits! Circulating to APILP (for now) mailing list.
Regards, Kelvin
Sent from my iPad
Begin forwarded message:
*From:* Peter Dengate Thrush <barrister@chambers.gen.nz
<mailto:barrister@chambers.gen.nz>> *Date:* 6 May, 2014 12:04:40 am GMT+9 *To:* Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org <mailto:kelvin.wong@icann.org>> *Subject:* *Re: [Apilp_discuss] For discussion: Draft Terms of Reference for Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program (APILP)*
Kelvin I seem to be having trouble posting to the list - please forward this for me - thanks
regards
Peter
Thanks Kelvin, This is an excellent start - it seems to have been a productive meeting at ICANN Singapore, and I am sorry I missed it.
I have made some suggested changes in Version 3 of the document which I attach. In proposing these, I note first how much easier it is to critique other's work than it it is to create it - thanks again for the first draft, which sets the scene very effectively.
Other than some changes such as numbering and some grammar edits, I think there could be some productive discussion about a couple of items:
1. The name - as its about Internet Governance, it seems sensible to me to include that in the name of the document and the name of the exercise. Its not just about "Internet Leadership" which is being done in many areas, of registry management, law, security etc, but specifically about IG. I think its healthier to acknowledge and display that focus.
2. I am not accustomed to describing the Asia Pacific area as "APAC", so started to re-name it AP - but didn't continue....happy to defer if there is a widespread acceptance of that abbreviation.
3. I am somewhat concerned at the current focus on the domain name industry: I have highlit the term a few times. I think both that there is more to the IG topic than that, and also that the domain name industry can be expected to be busy taking care of itself through such organisations as APTLD, ICANN and the newly formed Domain Name Association ( "DNA"). Although I think we need to be careful about opening the door to an unlimited range of topics, I have added IP address allocation mechanisms, multistakeholderism, online human rights, network security and network neutrality as possible topics. In any event, these should be signals, rather than instructions to those who will eventually draft the actual curriculum.
4. I have separated out and made clearer the tasks of preparing the curriculum from preparing business and financial plans to support it.
I hope these suggestion might be thought useful in furthering the discussion - thanks.
Regards
Peter
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Hi Sunny and Hong. I had been travelling for about a couple of weeks and was looking for the draft ToR that Peter had amended. Curiously enough I did not see it until this ToR v3. The ToR includes what I—and I suppose some others too—consider ambitious. I’m concerned that if we take as long as we did in crafting the ToR as our APrIGF CFP template, then many moons might pass. And the APrIGF had the benefit of a couple of runs. May I suggest this: we do the run. And we meet f2f to aim to conclude the ToR. I am proposing a 1-day session because I am thinking of the Indian bureaucrats who may form a sizeable group. It’s really a primer. I’m also concerned that a longer duration would not be manageable. Also, I’m concerned that if it’s too extended, people would have a hard time extending their stay. Appended below is the draft curriculum. Essentially—background+context, the technical aspects (to explain the root server), the stakeholders and their roles, and then the current status. I have highlighted the speaker for PM1 as I was in Sri Lanka and met Rohan Samarjiva and he had expressed interest to attend if we invite him. Rohan is a friend, ex-professor at Ohio State in telecom, a former DG of Sri Lanka Telecom but now heading a think-tank in ICT policy. He is therefore comfortable in both the ITU and Internet space and therefore not hostile to the Internet. Speakers for the other slots are open. Let me know your thoughts. Time Topic Content Speakers (Tentative) Remarks Day 1 AM1 Welcome & Introduction Introduction to the programme The Development of the Internet Sets the context, development and background of key players Historical Context AM2 Infrastructure: How the Internet works DNS, IP addresses, peering, IPv4/6 APNIC(?) Technical background PM1 Stakeholders, role and policies The connection between Internet and telecom Rohan Samarajiva Tentative PM2 Current Development WGIG and the Background to the IGF NetMundial Panel IGF and current status Regards, Peng Hwa From: apilp_discuss-bounces@apilp.asia [mailto:apilp_discuss-bounces@apilp.asia] On Behalf Of Hong Xue Sent: Thursday, 29 May, 2014 1:21 PM To: Srinivas Chendi Cc: apilp_discuss@apilp.asia Subject: Re: [Apilp_discuss] Fwd: For discussion: Draft Terms of Reference for Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program (APILP) Thanks, Sunny, the modifications look very good. Regarding 5.1, yes we would need to compose the WG sooner rather than later. Hong Professor Dr. Hong Xue Director of Beijing Normal University Institute for Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Co-Director of UNCITRAL-BNU Joint Certificate Program on International E-Commerce Law http://www.iipl.org.cn/ 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Srinivas Chendi <sunny@apnic.net<mailto:sunny@apnic.net>> wrote: Dear Kelvin, Thanks for circulating the ToR v3 for comments and thanks to Peter for providing his suggested changes. APNIC suggested changes are in the attached version 4 document. With regards to APILP or APIGLP, we prefer with APILP as it is broad and inclusive which can cover a number of topics. 5.1.a This is a very important and is a very big job but who will do it? Regards Sunny On 6/05/2014 7:02 PM, Kelvin Wong wrote: Dear Peter, well received. Thanks for your comments and edits! Circulating to APILP (for now) mailing list. Regards, Kelvin Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: *From:* Peter Dengate Thrush <barrister@chambers.gen.nz<mailto:barrister@chambers.gen.nz> <mailto:barrister@chambers.gen.nz<mailto:barrister@chambers.gen.nz>>> *Date:* 6 May, 2014 12:04:40 am GMT+9 *To:* Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org<mailto:kelvin.wong@icann.org> <mailto:kelvin.wong@icann.org<mailto:kelvin.wong@icann.org>>> *Subject:* *Re: [Apilp_discuss] For discussion: Draft Terms of Reference for Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program (APILP)* Kelvin I seem to be having trouble posting to the list - please forward this for me - thanks regards Peter Thanks Kelvin, This is an excellent start - it seems to have been a productive meeting at ICANN Singapore, and I am sorry I missed it. I have made some suggested changes in Version 3 of the document which I attach. In proposing these, I note first how much easier it is to critique other's work than it it is to create it - thanks again for the first draft, which sets the scene very effectively. Other than some changes such as numbering and some grammar edits, I think there could be some productive discussion about a couple of items: 1. The name - as its about Internet Governance, it seems sensible to me to include that in the name of the document and the name of the exercise. Its not just about "Internet Leadership" which is being done in many areas, of registry management, law, security etc, but specifically about IG. I think its healthier to acknowledge and display that focus. 2. I am not accustomed to describing the Asia Pacific area as "APAC", so started to re-name it AP - but didn't continue....happy to defer if there is a widespread acceptance of that abbreviation. 3. I am somewhat concerned at the current focus on the domain name industry: I have highlit the term a few times. I think both that there is more to the IG topic than that, and also that the domain name industry can be expected to be busy taking care of itself through such organisations as APTLD, ICANN and the newly formed Domain Name Association ( "DNA"). Although I think we need to be careful about opening the door to an unlimited range of topics, I have added IP address allocation mechanisms, multistakeholderism, online human rights, network security and network neutrality as possible topics. In any event, these should be signals, rather than instructions to those who will eventually draft the actual curriculum. 4. I have separated out and made clearer the tasks of preparing the curriculum from preparing business and financial plans to support it. I hope these suggestion might be thought useful in furthering the discussion - thanks. Regards Peter _______________________________________________ Apilp_discuss mailing list Apilp_discuss@apilp.asia<mailto:Apilp_discuss@apilp.asia> https://mailman.dotasia.org/mailman/listinfo/apilp_discuss _______________________________________________ Apilp_discuss mailing list Apilp_discuss@apilp.asia<mailto:Apilp_discuss@apilp.asia> https://mailman.dotasia.org/mailman/listinfo/apilp_discuss ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY:This email is intended solely for the person(s) named and may be confidential and/or privileged.If you are not the intended recipient,please delete it,notify us and do not copy,use,or disclose its content. Towards A Sustainable Earth:Print Only When Necessary.Thank you.
Dear All, FYI, Hong has kindly helped to submit a workshop proposal on this APILP initiative which opens for discussion during APrIGF Delhi from 3-6 Aug which is around 2-month time away. While I agree with Penghwa that acting quick is essential, APrIGF shall give us another good F2F opportunity to further discuss about the future of this initiative as well. Would encourage any of you here to attend and join the session. More information could be found at http://2014.rigf.asia. The agenda is under development though. Thanks. Best Regards, Yannis Li DotAsia Organisation Ltd. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Address: 12F, Daily House, 35-37 Haiphong Road, Tsim Sha Tsui, Hong Kong Tel: +852 2244 7900 ︳Fax: +852 2244 7902 ︳http://www.dot.asia On 29 May 2014, at 4:56 PM, Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) wrote: Hi Sunny and Hong. I had been travelling for about a couple of weeks and was looking for the draft ToR that Peter had amended. Curiously enough I did not see it until this ToR v3. The ToR includes what I—and I suppose some others too—consider ambitious. I’m concerned that if we take as long as we did in crafting the ToR as our APrIGF CFP template, then many moons might pass. And the APrIGF had the benefit of a couple of runs. May I suggest this: we do the run. And we meet f2f to aim to conclude the ToR. I am proposing a 1-day session because I am thinking of the Indian bureaucrats who may form a sizeable group. It’s really a primer. I’m also concerned that a longer duration would not be manageable. Also, I’m concerned that if it’s too extended, people would have a hard time extending their stay. Appended below is the draft curriculum. Essentially—background+context, the technical aspects (to explain the root server), the stakeholders and their roles, and then the current status. I have highlighted the speaker for PM1 as I was in Sri Lanka and met Rohan Samarjiva and he had expressed interest to attend if we invite him. Rohan is a friend, ex-professor at Ohio State in telecom, a former DG of Sri Lanka Telecom but now heading a think-tank in ICT policy. He is therefore comfortable in both the ITU and Internet space and therefore not hostile to the Internet. Speakers for the other slots are open. Let me know your thoughts. Time Topic Content Speakers (Tentative) Remarks Day 1 AM1 Welcome & Introduction Introduction to the programme The Development of the Internet Sets the context, development and background of key players Historical Context AM2 Infrastructure: How the Internet works DNS, IP addresses, peering, IPv4/6 APNIC(?) Technical background PM1 Stakeholders, role and policies The connection between Internet and telecom Rohan Samarajiva Tentative PM2 Current Development WGIG and the Background to the IGF NetMundial Panel IGF and current status Regards, Peng Hwa From: apilp_discuss-bounces@apilp.asia [mailto:apilp_discuss-bounces@apilp.asia] On Behalf Of Hong Xue Sent: Thursday, 29 May, 2014 1:21 PM To: Srinivas Chendi Cc: apilp_discuss@apilp.asia Subject: Re: [Apilp_discuss] Fwd: For discussion: Draft Terms of Reference for Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program (APILP) Thanks, Sunny, the modifications look very good. Regarding 5.1, yes we would need to compose the WG sooner rather than later. Hong Professor Dr. Hong Xue Director of Beijing Normal University Institute for Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Co-Director of UNCITRAL-BNU Joint Certificate Program on International E-Commerce Law http://www.iipl.org.cn/ 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Srinivas Chendi <sunny@apnic.net> wrote: Dear Kelvin, Thanks for circulating the ToR v3 for comments and thanks to Peter for providing his suggested changes. APNIC suggested changes are in the attached version 4 document. With regards to APILP or APIGLP, we prefer with APILP as it is broad and inclusive which can cover a number of topics. 5.1.a This is a very important and is a very big job but who will do it? Regards Sunny On 6/05/2014 7:02 PM, Kelvin Wong wrote: Dear Peter, well received. Thanks for your comments and edits! Circulating to APILP (for now) mailing list. Regards, Kelvin Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: *From:* Peter Dengate Thrush <barrister@chambers.gen.nz <mailto:barrister@chambers.gen.nz>> *Date:* 6 May, 2014 12:04:40 am GMT+9 *To:* Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org <mailto:kelvin.wong@icann.org>> *Subject:* *Re: [Apilp_discuss] For discussion: Draft Terms of Reference for Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program (APILP)* Kelvin I seem to be having trouble posting to the list - please forward this for me - thanks regards Peter Thanks Kelvin, This is an excellent start - it seems to have been a productive meeting at ICANN Singapore, and I am sorry I missed it. I have made some suggested changes in Version 3 of the document which I attach. In proposing these, I note first how much easier it is to critique other's work than it it is to create it - thanks again for the first draft, which sets the scene very effectively. Other than some changes such as numbering and some grammar edits, I think there could be some productive discussion about a couple of items: 1. The name - as its about Internet Governance, it seems sensible to me to include that in the name of the document and the name of the exercise. Its not just about "Internet Leadership" which is being done in many areas, of registry management, law, security etc, but specifically about IG. I think its healthier to acknowledge and display that focus. 2. I am not accustomed to describing the Asia Pacific area as "APAC", so started to re-name it AP - but didn't continue....happy to defer if there is a widespread acceptance of that abbreviation. 3. I am somewhat concerned at the current focus on the domain name industry: I have highlit the term a few times. I think both that there is more to the IG topic than that, and also that the domain name industry can be expected to be busy taking care of itself through such organisations as APTLD, ICANN and the newly formed Domain Name Association ( "DNA"). Although I think we need to be careful about opening the door to an unlimited range of topics, I have added IP address allocation mechanisms, multistakeholderism, online human rights, network security and network neutrality as possible topics. In any event, these should be signals, rather than instructions to those who will eventually draft the actual curriculum. 4. I have separated out and made clearer the tasks of preparing the curriculum from preparing business and financial plans to support it. I hope these suggestion might be thought useful in furthering the discussion - thanks. Regards Peter _______________________________________________ Apilp_discuss mailing list Apilp_discuss@apilp.asia https://mailman.dotasia.org/mailman/listinfo/apilp_discuss _______________________________________________ Apilp_discuss mailing list Apilp_discuss@apilp.asia https://mailman.dotasia.org/mailman/listinfo/apilp_discuss CONFIDENTIALITY:This email is intended solely for the person(s) named and may be confidential and/or privileged.If you are not the intended recipient,please delete it,notify us and do not copy,use,or disclose its content. Towards A Sustainable Earth:Print Only When Necessary.Thank you. _______________________________________________ Apilp_discuss mailing list Apilp_discuss@apilp.asia https://mailman.dotasia.org/mailman/listinfo/apilp_discuss
Agreed. It’ll be a good opportunity to work out the ToR. Regards, Peng Hwa From: Yannis Li [mailto:yannis@registry.asia] Sent: Friday, 30 May, 2014 5:57 PM To: Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) Cc: Hong Xue; Srinivas Chendi; apilp_discuss@apilp.asia Subject: Re: [Apilp_discuss] Fwd: For discussion: Draft Terms of Reference for Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program (APILP) Dear All, FYI, Hong has kindly helped to submit a workshop proposal on this APILP initiative which opens for discussion during APrIGF Delhi from 3-6 Aug which is around 2-month time away. While I agree with Penghwa that acting quick is essential, APrIGF shall give us another good F2F opportunity to further discuss about the future of this initiative as well. Would encourage any of you here to attend and join the session. More information could be found at http://2014.rigf.asia. The agenda is under development though. Thanks. Best Regards, Yannis Li DotAsia Organisation Ltd. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Address: 12F, Daily House, 35-37 Haiphong Road, Tsim Sha Tsui, Hong Kong Tel: +852 2244 7900 ︳Fax: +852 2244 7902 ︳http://www.dot.asia On 29 May 2014, at 4:56 PM, Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) wrote: Hi Sunny and Hong. I had been travelling for about a couple of weeks and was looking for the draft ToR that Peter had amended. Curiously enough I did not see it until this ToR v3. The ToR includes what I—and I suppose some others too—consider ambitious. I’m concerned that if we take as long as we did in crafting the ToR as our APrIGF CFP template, then many moons might pass. And the APrIGF had the benefit of a couple of runs. May I suggest this: we do the run. And we meet f2f to aim to conclude the ToR. I am proposing a 1-day session because I am thinking of the Indian bureaucrats who may form a sizeable group. It’s really a primer. I’m also concerned that a longer duration would not be manageable. Also, I’m concerned that if it’s too extended, people would have a hard time extending their stay. Appended below is the draft curriculum. Essentially—background+context, the technical aspects (to explain the root server), the stakeholders and their roles, and then the current status. I have highlighted the speaker for PM1 as I was in Sri Lanka and met Rohan Samarjiva and he had expressed interest to attend if we invite him. Rohan is a friend, ex-professor at Ohio State in telecom, a former DG of Sri Lanka Telecom but now heading a think-tank in ICT policy. He is therefore comfortable in both the ITU and Internet space and therefore not hostile to the Internet. Speakers for the other slots are open. Let me know your thoughts. Time Topic Content Speakers (Tentative) Remarks Day 1 AM1 Welcome & Introduction Introduction to the programme The Development of the Internet Sets the context, development and background of key players Historical Context AM2 Infrastructure: How the Internet works DNS, IP addresses, peering, IPv4/6 APNIC(?) Technical background PM1 Stakeholders, role and policies The connection between Internet and telecom Rohan Samarajiva Tentative PM2 Current Development WGIG and the Background to the IGF NetMundial Panel IGF and current status Regards, Peng Hwa From: apilp_discuss-bounces@apilp.asia<mailto:apilp_discuss-bounces@apilp.asia> [mailto:apilp_discuss-bounces@apilp.asia] On Behalf Of Hong Xue Sent: Thursday, 29 May, 2014 1:21 PM To: Srinivas Chendi Cc: apilp_discuss@apilp.asia<mailto:apilp_discuss@apilp.asia> Subject: Re: [Apilp_discuss] Fwd: For discussion: Draft Terms of Reference for Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program (APILP) Thanks, Sunny, the modifications look very good. Regarding 5.1, yes we would need to compose the WG sooner rather than later. Hong Professor Dr. Hong Xue Director of Beijing Normal University Institute for Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Co-Director of UNCITRAL-BNU Joint Certificate Program on International E-Commerce Law http://www.iipl.org.cn/ 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Srinivas Chendi <sunny@apnic.net<mailto:sunny@apnic.net>> wrote: Dear Kelvin, Thanks for circulating the ToR v3 for comments and thanks to Peter for providing his suggested changes. APNIC suggested changes are in the attached version 4 document. With regards to APILP or APIGLP, we prefer with APILP as it is broad and inclusive which can cover a number of topics. 5.1.a This is a very important and is a very big job but who will do it? Regards Sunny On 6/05/2014 7:02 PM, Kelvin Wong wrote: Dear Peter, well received. Thanks for your comments and edits! Circulating to APILP (for now) mailing list. Regards, Kelvin Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: *From:* Peter Dengate Thrush <barrister@chambers.gen.nz<mailto:barrister@chambers.gen.nz> <mailto:barrister@chambers.gen.nz<mailto:barrister@chambers.gen.nz>>> *Date:* 6 May, 2014 12:04:40 am GMT+9 *To:* Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong@icann.org<mailto:kelvin.wong@icann.org> <mailto:kelvin.wong@icann.org<mailto:kelvin.wong@icann.org>>> *Subject:* *Re: [Apilp_discuss] For discussion: Draft Terms of Reference for Asia Pacific Internet Leadership Program (APILP)* Kelvin I seem to be having trouble posting to the list - please forward this for me - thanks regards Peter Thanks Kelvin, This is an excellent start - it seems to have been a productive meeting at ICANN Singapore, and I am sorry I missed it. I have made some suggested changes in Version 3 of the document which I attach. In proposing these, I note first how much easier it is to critique other's work than it it is to create it - thanks again for the first draft, which sets the scene very effectively. Other than some changes such as numbering and some grammar edits, I think there could be some productive discussion about a couple of items: 1. The name - as its about Internet Governance, it seems sensible to me to include that in the name of the document and the name of the exercise. Its not just about "Internet Leadership" which is being done in many areas, of registry management, law, security etc, but specifically about IG. I think its healthier to acknowledge and display that focus. 2. I am not accustomed to describing the Asia Pacific area as "APAC", so started to re-name it AP - but didn't continue....happy to defer if there is a widespread acceptance of that abbreviation. 3. I am somewhat concerned at the current focus on the domain name industry: I have highlit the term a few times. I think both that there is more to the IG topic than that, and also that the domain name industry can be expected to be busy taking care of itself through such organisations as APTLD, ICANN and the newly formed Domain Name Association ( "DNA"). Although I think we need to be careful about opening the door to an unlimited range of topics, I have added IP address allocation mechanisms, multistakeholderism, online human rights, network security and network neutrality as possible topics. In any event, these should be signals, rather than instructions to those who will eventually draft the actual curriculum. 4. I have separated out and made clearer the tasks of preparing the curriculum from preparing business and financial plans to support it. I hope these suggestion might be thought useful in furthering the discussion - thanks. 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Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) -
Hong Xue -
Kelvin Wong -
Srinivas Chendi -
Yannis Li