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Important note for APrIGF Day 0 - APILP speakers (Reply needed, pls see points 1-3)
by Kelvin Wong 19 Jul '16

19 Jul '16

Dear speakers for APILP, Cc Peng Hwa/APILP Chair, and Jungbae/APSIG Thanks for your contribution to this year’s APILP. The final program for Day 0 is attached. For the final segment (17:30-18:30), Chat, can we have Bishakaa Datta’s email so that we can be in touch? Kuo-Wei, can I trouble you to be in touch with the proposed speaker “Regulation for the “sharing economy” - Uber, AirBnB etc” and share his/her email with us please? Sharing some other important administrative note from the APrIGF secretariat and from APSIG: ==== 1. Presentation Slides (from APrIGF secretariat) Presentation slides have to be pre-uploaded to AdobeConnect in order to allow remote participants to read it simultaneously. We therefore need your co-operation on the below: • Collect the presentation files from you speakers in advance and send to 2016aprigf(a)nii.org.tw and sec(a)aprigf.asia with specified sequence of the presentations by 22 Jul (Friday). Appreciate if APILP speakers can send your presentations to me by 22 July Friday too, if possible. • Otherwise collect the slides on-site in a USB and pass to tech support before session begins • Confirm with speakers whether the slides can be uploaded to the event website afterwards as archive. Please let me know if APILP speakers have objections on this too 2. Online Registration (from APrIGF secretariat) Kindly remind ALL your speakers to register online at https://2016.aprigf.asia/registration/. Due to the large number of participants and limited seats for the social dinner, we would hope to reserve seats for the speakers first. Therefore it is important for them to have registered online so that we can arrange accordingly. 3. Agreement on sharing of presentation materials for upload into YouTube and for use during APSIG (from APSIG secretariat) ALL speakers, could you look through the licenses below (from APSIG) and share your agreement for uploading of your materials/recording to YouTube by replying to this email please. Copying Jungbae/APSIG if you have any questions. This is done collaboratively with APSIG, so that the materials from APILP can be put to further use beyond APrIGF. ************************************************************************************************************************ We would like to propose to have following Creative Commons licenses for the APILP lecture materials. Please find the detailed usage in the links. For lecturer video: Creative Commons CC-BY license (YouTube default) For corresponding documents including presentation materials: Creative Commons CC-BY-SA license Appreciate if you could confirm your agreement with the above license arrangement. ************************************************************************************************************************ ==== Please feel free to check back with Peng Hwa and myself if you have any questions. Thank you and looking forward to seeing you! Regards, Kelvin From: Hong Xue <hongxueipr(a)gmail.com> Date: Monday, June 20, 2016 at 10:52 AM To: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong(a)icann.org> Cc: "kuoweiwu(a)gmail.com" <kuoweiwu(a)gmail.com>, "Ang Peng Hwa (Prof)" <TPHANG(a)ntu.edu.sg>, "planning(a)apilp.asia" <planning(a)apilp.asia>, Hann Kenn Yee <hannkenn.yee(a)icann.org> Subject: Re: [Apilp_planning] APILP preparations - Plenary on Emerging issues, Recording of APILP Hi, we don't need so many speeches at the end. So yes cancel mime and leave more time for discussion. Hong Sent from my iPhone On 2016年6月17日, at 10:22, Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong(a)icann.org> wrote: Dear all, Some matter related to APILP for your consideration pls. 1. Schedule for last session of APILP (renaming as Plenary on Emerging Issues) Hong Xue, thanks for this. However, the timing currently looks ok if you wish to continue with your slot, as below. I have already included “Women’s Rights” topic. Please let me know if you wish to keep it or prefer to give up your slot to give more time for discussion. Plenary on Emerging Issues (17:30-18:30) - IoT, mobility and digital fabrication and related governance issues - Izumi Aizu (10 minutes) - IoT and its unique implications on online privacy, security and personal data protection – Noelle de Guzman, ISOC (10minutes) - Electronic identity management and related governance issues – Hong Xue, Beijing Normal University (10 minutes) - Regulation for the “sharing economy” - Uber, AirBnB etc <Kuo-Wei to suggest speaker> (10 minutes) - Women's rights issues in relation to the internet - Bishakaa Datta (10 minutes) 2. Recording of APILP sessions - I have also received an offer from An Jungbae of APSIG to do a video recording of Day 0 - APILP sessions, using HD video camera and one wireless mic set. These will be used as possible courses for APSIG lectures. - From the APrIGF secretariat, I understand that there will not be official recording (transcripts etc) for this APILP as Day 0 will be used to set up the system in time for APrIGF main conference. - Speakers, as you are on this list as well, please let me know if you have any issues with a video recording of your sessions. If no, I will work with APSIG to do a video recording of the sessions. Thank you. Regards, Kelvin From: Hong Xue <hongxueipr(a)gmail.com> Date: Monday, June 6, 2016 at 9:22 AM To: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong(a)icann.org> Cc: "kuoweiwu(a)gmail.com" <kuoweiwu(a)gmail.com>, "Ang Peng Hwa (Prof)" <TPHANG(a)ntu.edu.sg>, "planning(a)apilp.asia" <planning(a)apilp.asia>, Hann Kenn Yee <hannkenn.yee(a)icann.org> Subject: Re: [Apilp_planning] APILP preparations - Available slot to speak on Emerging issues Dear All, I'm happy to transfer my slot to "Women's Rights", which I believe is very important in AP region. Hong Professor Dr. Hong Xue Director of Beijing Normal University Institute for Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Co-Director of UNCITRAL-BNU Joint Certificate Program on International E-Commerce Law http://www.iipl.org.cn/ 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong(a)icann.org> wrote: Dear Chat, Kuo-Wei, I’ve included your comments and additions and reflected them in the email below. Kuo Wei, thanks – if the lawyer can also mention in broader terms the regulatory challenges that Peng Hwa suggested, then I think that will be fine. I've adjusted the timings slightly so that there’s still a (small) chance for Q&As. I think that’s all we can take for the roud-up session/panel. Thanks all! Regards, Kelvin From: Kuo-Wei Wu <kuoweiwu(a)gmail.com> Date: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 at 9:01 PM To: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong(a)icann.org> Cc: "Ang Peng Hwa (Prof)" <TPHANG(a)ntu.edu.sg>, Hong Xue <hongxueipr(a)gmail.com>, "planning(a)apilp.asia" <planning(a)apilp.asia>, Hann Kenn Yee <hannkenn.yee(a)icann.org> Subject: Re: [Apilp_planning] APILP preparations - Available slot to speak on Emerging issues Uber has some legal issue in Taiwan, I can ask a lawyer to explain the issues in Taiwan. If you want. Kuowei Wu Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong(a)icann.org> 於 2016年6月1日星期三寫道： Dear all, Thanks Peng Hwa, Hong Xue, Noelle. Seeing there’s no further comments, I think we have a good roundup on the below. If anyone has some good contacts who can speak on the last session, please do feel free to recommend. Will try to source too. Could I check if anyone wishes to “moderate" this brief session? Peng Hwa, would you like to do so and perhaps that could lead nicely to a closing message from you (as Chair APILP)? Roundup Discussion on Emerging Issues (17:30-18:30) - IoT, mobility and digital fabrication and related governance issues - Izumi Aizu (10 minutes) - IoT and its unique implications on online privacy, security and personal data protection – Noelle de Guzman, ISOC (10minutes) - Electronic identity management and related governance issues – Hong Xue, Beijing Normal University (10 minutes) - Regulation for the “sharing economy” - Uber, AirBnB etc <Kuo-Wei to suggest speaker> (10 minutes) - Women's rights issues in relation to the internet - Bishakaa Datta (10 mins) - Q&As (10 minutes) Thanks all! Regards, Kelvin From: "Ang Peng Hwa (Prof)" <TPHANG(a)ntu.edu.sg> Date: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 at 1:05 AM To: Hong Xue <hongxueipr(a)gmail.com>, Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong(a)icann.org> Cc: "planning(a)apilp.asia" <planning(a)apilp.asia>, Hann Kenn Yee <hannkenn.yee(a)icann.org> Subject: Re: [Apilp_planning] APILP preparations - Available slot to speak on Emerging issues Apologies for the tardy response. Trying to catch up with the work. I would say that a significant issue everyone is wrestling with these days and one that could use the multistakeholder model is the issue of regulations for the “sharing economy”. I’m thinking in particular of services such as Uber, Airbnb. The only real answer to this is to incorporate government, business and civil society. Any one stakeholder would not yield a good result. Perhaps the legal counsel of one of these companies could be at the session to speak. For your consideration. Regards, Ang Peng Hwa From: Apilp_planning <apilp_planning-bounces(a)jerry.dot.asia> on behalf of Hong Xue <hongxueipr(a)gmail.com> Date: Monday, 30 May 2016 5:51 pm To: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong(a)icann.org> Cc: "planning(a)apilp.asia" <planning(a)apilp.asia>, Hann Kenn Yee <hannkenn.yee(a)icann.org> Subject: Re: [Apilp_planning] APILP preparations - Available slot to speak on Emerging issues Dear Kelvin, If there is still time available, I'd be happy to give a short talk on "electronic identity management and related governance issues", which is relevant to both IoT, privacy and international trade law. If not time for talk now, I'm also okay to join the discussion only. regards Professor Dr. Hong Xue Director of Beijing Normal University Institute for Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Co-Director of UNCITRAL-BNU Joint Certificate Program on International E-Commerce Law http://www.iipl.org.cn/ 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 6:07 PM, Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong(a)icann.org> wrote: Dear all, Thanks for the comments. Chat, I’ve included the current program and the session write-ups, as attached. The target audience will be largely newcomers in general, including yIGF participants who will be attending in part. We’re also asking the APrIGF Fellows to attend these sessions. On the session, I think we have some convergence of views on the final session (17:30-18:30): Round-up(-ish), forward looking themes; Diverse and bold perspectives on emerging issues that will impact people in critical ways; Governance issues tied to emerging topics/technologies Can we have some nomination of speakers/self nomination that can complement the following: - IoT, mobility and digital fabrication and related governance issues - by Izumi Aizu (10 minutes) - Others? I note that Noelle/ISOC has just been added to this group – Noelle, any related themes topics that ISOC can contribute and speak to? Regards, Kelvin From: Hong Xue <hongxueipr(a)gmail.com> Date: Monday, May 23, 2016 at 2:10 PM To: Chat Garcia Ramilo <chat(a)apcwomen.org> Cc: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong(a)icann.org>, "kuoweiwu(a)gmail.com" <kuoweiwu(a)gmail.com>, "planning(a)apilp.asia" <planning(a)apilp.asia>, Hann Kenn Yee <hannkenn.yee(a)icann.org> Subject: Re: [Apilp_planning] APILP preparations - Available slot to speak on Emerging issues I agree with Chat's proposal. Also, it would be nice to have Izumi's 10-minute video shown at the session. Hong Professor Dr. Hong Xue Director of Beijing Normal University Institute for Internet Policy & Law (IIPL) Co-Director of UNCITRAL-BNU Joint Certificate Program on International E-Commerce Law http://www.iipl.org.cn/ 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street Beijing 100875 China On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:20 AM, Chat Garcia Ramilo <chat(a)apcwomen.org> wrote: Hi Kelvin, I like the idea of a round up for this session with a few speakers who can give diverse and bold perspectives on emerging issues that will impact people in critical ways. I agree that forward looking themes will be most useful for this session rather than specific technologies. Can we define the focus now and allow for more time to think about the possible themes and speakers? Alternatively, we can keep the topic broad so we have more flexibility in shaping the session - ie. once the rest of the day's agenda is more detailed and we have a better idea of who will be participating. best, Chat On 5/18/16 9:06 PM, Kelvin Wong wrote: > Hi Kuo-wei, > > I think the previously proposed course included Internet of Things, so > perhaps some popular emerging topics such as IoT, big data, AI(?) could > make the cut. The session may even be a round up of sorts or have a > forward looking theme without going into any technologies in detail. > > Again, open to more suggestions. > > Regards, > Kelvin > > > From: Kuo-Wei Wu <kuoweiwu(a)gmail.com <mailto:kuoweiwu@gmail.com>> > Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 at 6:00 PM > To: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong(a)icann.org <mailto:kelvin.wong@icann.org>> > Cc: "planning(a)apilp.asia <mailto:planning@apilp.asia>" > <planning(a)apilp.asia <mailto:planning@apilp.asia>>, Yannis Li > <yannis(a)registry.asia <mailto:yannis@registry.asia>>, Hann Kenn Yee > <hannkenn.yee(a)icann.org <mailto:hannkenn.yee@icann.org>> > Subject: Re: [Apilp_planning] APILP preparations - Available slot to > speak on Emerging issues > > What topics will be raise for "emerging issues"? And material available? > I believe many can present for it. > > Kuowei Wu > > Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong(a)icann.org <mailto:kelvin.wong@icann.org>> 於 > 2016年5月18日星期三寫道： > > Thanks Kuo-Wei :) > > Dear APILP planning group, > > Just to also share with this group we now have a 1-hour slot free > for the last session on "General: Emerging Issues” 26 July > (17:30-18:30) as one of our speakers will be unable to make it in > the new Day 0 format. > > Grateful for any suggestions on the topics for this, and if anyone > would like to speak on this or nominate another. > > > Attached is the updated program for the day. > > ____ > > Thank you! > > > > Regards, > Kelvin > > > From: Wu Kuo-Wei <kuoweiwu(a)gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kuoweiwu(a)gmail.com');>> > Date: Friday, May 13, 2016 at 4:50 PM > To: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong(a)icann.org > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong(a)icann.org');>> > Cc: Yannis Li <yannis(a)registry.asia > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','yannis(a)registry.asia');>>, > "planning(a)apilp.asia > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning(a)apilp.asia');>" > <planning(a)apilp.asia > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning(a)apilp.asia');>> > Subject: Re: [Apilp_planning] APILP preparations > > Sounds fine to me. > > Kuo Wu > >> Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong(a)icann.org >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong(a)icann.org');>> 於 2016年 >> 5月13日 16:49 寫道： >> >> Dear all, >> >> After some correspondence with the David and Yannis, >> yIGF organizers, we would like to suggest that we reserve the >> first 15 minutes for a Welcome address targetted at the the >> newcomers, APrIGF fellows, as well as for introductions to >> yIGF/APILP. This will be the first time many of the attendees >> have participated in the programs. >> >> In addition, I’d like to propose adding the following topic on >> “Human Rights and the Internet” for the 16:00-17:30 civil society >> session. Thanks Chat and Jac / APC for proposing the topic for >> this and agreeing to lead the session (description below). Sounds >> like a good introductory session for the newcomers. >> >> /*_Human Rights and the Internet_: *Overview of how the human >> rights framework has been applied in internet governance and >> policy development. This includes the history of human rights from >> WSIS to IGF, and the interlinkages between policy processes such >> as Human Rights Council, ITU and UN Commission on the Status of >> Women in the articulation of the right to freedom of expression, >> violence against women, right to be forgotten and privacy on the >> internet./ >> >> >> The full program is attached for your reference, and comments, if >> any, by end 17 May (Tues). Thanks! >> >> Regards, >> Kelvin >> >> >> From: Apilp_planning <apilp_planning-bounces(a)jerry.dot.asia >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','apilp_planning-bounces(a)jerry.dot.asia');>> >> on behalf of Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong(a)icann.org >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong(a)icann.org');>> >> Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 9:03 AM >> To: Yannis Li <yannis(a)registry.asia >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','yannis(a)registry.asia');>> >> Cc: "planning(a)apilp.asia >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning(a)apilp.asia');>" >> <planning(a)apilp.asia >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning(a)apilp.asia');>> >> Subject: Re: [Apilp_planning] APILP preparations >> >> Hi Yannis, >> >> If no one objects, I think we can include the course descriptions >> in the 3 workshop proposals in the agenda, since these are more >> firm, and provide more detail. The write up also includes the >> blurb on APILP. >> >> And if you could avoid references to the fact that we proposed to >> spread it over 3 days, that will be much appreciated. >> >> Original workshop proposals are attached for reference. Thanks >> Yannis. >> >> Regards, >> Kelvin >> >> >> From: Yannis Li <yannis(a)registry.asia >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','yannis(a)registry.asia');>> >> Date: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 at 5:33 PM >> To: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong(a)icann.org >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong(a)icann.org');>> >> Cc: "kuoweiwu(a)gmail.com >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kuoweiwu(a)gmail.com');>" >> <kuoweiwu(a)gmail.com >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kuoweiwu(a)gmail.com');>>, >> "planning(a)apilp.asia >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning(a)apilp.asia');>" >> <planning(a)apilp.asia >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning(a)apilp.asia');>> >> Subject: Re: [Apilp_planning] APILP preparations >> >> Hi All, >> >> Added Klee and Chester to the Planning list as requested. >> >> Regarding the information on website, Kelvin do you think it’s ok >> if I just copied the 3 workshop proposals brief introduction to >> the agenda? Or if you have a blurb that we can put on the >> registration page might work too. >> >> Thanks. >> >> *Best Regards,* >> * >> * >> *Yannis Li* >> *DotAsia Organisation Ltd.* >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Address: 12F, Daily House, 35-37 Haiphong Road, Tsim Sha Tsui, >> Hong Kong >> Tel: +852 2244 7920 ︳Fax: +852 2244 7902 >> ︳http://www.dot.asia <http://www.dot.asia/> >> >> >> >> >> On 3 May 2016, at 10:15 AM, Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong(a)icann.org >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong(a)icann.org');>> wrote: >> >> Thanks Kuowei, it will be good if we could spread the word about >> this day 0 activity, and get more conference attendees, especially >> new(er)comers, to make arrangements to come one day earlier for this. >> >> Some related logistic considerations (for local host): >> >> - If the APrIGF 2016 website and registration page could have some >> information about the Day 0 APILP program, while the planning team >> continues to firm up the program, that will be great. Sorry if >> I’ve missed them. >> >> - At MSG, there was a brief discussion on the room capacity. I >> think it was a good sized room of about 80pax for Day 0. However, >> as some pointed out, if we have 60 yIGF participants (not sure I >> heard this one correctly), and with the 20+ fellows, there will be >> more than 80 participants, at least at certain times? In that >> case, we may need to have a bigger size room, since there would be >> other participants/newcomers to the APILP that is not yIGF or >> fellows too (including some of us here whom I’m sure would like to >> be in the room) :) How possible is that? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Regards, >> Kelvin >> >> >> From: Kuo-Wei Wu <kuoweiwu(a)gmail.com >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kuoweiwu(a)gmail.com');>> >> Date: Saturday, April 30, 2016 at 11:12 PM >> To: Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong(a)icann.org >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong(a)icann.org');>> >> Cc: Yannis Li <yannis(a)registry.asia >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','yannis(a)registry.asia');>>, >> "planning(a)apilp.asia >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning(a)apilp.asia');>" >> <planning(a)apilp.asia >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning(a)apilp.asia');>> >> Subject: Re: [Apilp_planning] APILP preparations >> >> Anything I can help for APILP? >> >> Kuowei Wu >> >> Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong(a)icann.org >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kelvin.wong(a)icann.org');>> 於 2016年 >> 4月26日星期二寫道： >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I’ve reached out to Chat separately regarding the APILP planning >>> team, and >>> am awaiting a response. I’ve highlighted the need for civil society >>> perspective. >>> >>> Meanwhile (and if there is no more input on the program from this >>> group >>> between now and tomorrow), I suppose we can run through the >>> program during >>> tomorrow’s MSG meeting, and seek views. >>> >>> I’m not sure if the local hosts are on this list already, as we still >>> needed to have some clarity on the availability of coffee >>> break/lunch. >>> Otherwise these can be raised tomorrow too. >>> >>> =====Proposed program for Day 0========== >>> >>> 09:00 - 10:30 General: >>> 1. Introduction to Internet Governance & >>> Multistakeholder Model >>> 2. Introduction to APrIGF/MSG (and outcome document?) >>> >>> 10:30 - 11:00 Coffee Break >>> >>> 11:00 - 12:00 Technical: IANA transition >>> 12:00 - 12.30 Technical: Basics of Critical Internet Resources >>> (DNS/IP >>> addresses etc) >>> >>> 12:30 - 14:00 Lunch >>> >>> 14:00 - 14:30 Technical: Fundamentals of Cyber Security / >>> Network Security >>> 14.30 - 15.30 Academic: Internet User's Rights (privacy and >>> access to >>> knowledge) >>> >>> 15:30 - 16:00 Coffee Break >>> >>> 16:00 - 17:30 Civil Society: >>> 1. Exploring publicness' in the Right to Be >>> Forgotten Rulings >>> 2. Other topics >>> >>> 17:30 - 18:30 General: Emerging issues >>> >>> >>> =====Proposed program for Day 0========== >>> >>> Regards, >>> Kelvin >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4/20/16, 2:32 PM, "Apilp_planning on behalf of Kelvin Wong" >>> <apilp_planning-bounces(a)jerry.dot.asia on behalf of >>> kelvin.wong(a)icann.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >Thanks Yannis for this. >>> > >>> >On Paul’s note below, I think it will be great to have Chat in this too, >>> >to add more perspective. >>> > >>> >Just to point out a small typo - I think you meant "14:00 - 14:30 - >>> >Technical: Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network Security”. Revised >>> >programme looks good to me, and we can use this as the base for >>> >discussion. >>> > >>> >Peng Hwa, should we be including any others from APILP into this planning >>> >group? >>> > >>> >Thanks. >>> > >>> >Regards, >>> >Kelvin >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >On 4/20/16, 1:32 PM, "Apilp_planning on behalf of Yannis Li" >>> ><apilp_planning-bounces(a)jerry.dot.asia on behalf of >>> yannis(a)registry.asia> >>> >wrote: >>> > >>> >>Dear All, >>> >> >>> >>Just want to let you know that planning(a)apilp.asia has been activated. >>> >> >>> >>Let me know if I should go ahead to add Chat or Paul you would talk to >>> >>her first. >>> >> >>> >>Thanks. >>> >> >>> >>Best Regards, >>> >> >>> >>Yannis Li >>> >>DotAsia Organisation Ltd. >>> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>- >>> >>---------------------- >>> >>Address: 12F, Daily House, 35-37 Haiphong Road, Tsim Sha Tsui, Hong Kong >>> >>Tel: +852 2244 7920 ︳Fax: +852 2244 7902 ︳http://www.dot.asia <http://www.dot.asia/> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>On 19 Apr 2016, at 3:45 PM, Paul Wilson <pwilson(a)apnic.net> wrote: >>> >> >>> >>Thanks kelvin and all. >>> >> >>> >>Glad to see this and to know that the issue of Civil Society presence is >>> >>agreed. >>> >> >>> >>This programme is a great start but before setting anything in stone, I >>> >>would suggest to bring the right people into this discussion. After all >>> >>it is not just an issue of civil society “content” but also >>> >>“participation” in this process. >>> >> >>> >>I suggest Chat Garcia, who is already active on the MSG, would be the >>> >>right person to invite into this group in the short term. The future >>> >>particuipation in the mailing list can continue to emerge as well of >>> >>course. >>> >> >>> >>Are you all OK to invite Chat at this stage? >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>One other comment: >>> >> >>> >>This agenda is very packed and I feel that the allocation of 2 90-minutes >>> >>slots to the technical community is not quite fair. Perhaps if we spent >>> >>60 minutes on IANA transiti9on and then 60 on my presentation, then this >>> >>would free up time for others. >>> >> >>> >>If Hong is happy to be identified as “Academic” then perhaps she should >>> >>join in with the technical community, with her session scheduled before >>> >>the afternoon coffee break. Then, we could leave the final session >>> >>(16.00-17.30) for the Civil Society issues. >>> >> >>> >>It would look something like this: >>> >> >>> >>09:00 - 10:30 General: >>> >> 1. Introduction to Internet Governance & Multistakeholder Model >>> >> 2. Introduction to APrIGF/MSG (and outcome document?) >>> >> >>> >>10:30 - 11:00 Coffee Break >>> >> >>> >>11:00 - 12:00 Technical: IANA transition >>> >>12:00 - 12.30 Technical: Basics of Critical Internet Resources (DNS/IP >>> >>addresses etc) >>> >> >>> >>12:30 - 14:00 Lunch >>> >> >>> >>14:00 - 15:30 Technical: Fundamentals of Cyber Security / Network >>> >>Security >>> >>14.30 - 15.30 Academic: Internet User's Rights (privacy and access to >>> >>knowledge) >>> >> >>> >>15:30 - 16:00 Coffee Break >>> >> >>> >>16:00 - 17:30 Civil Society: >>> >> 1. Exploring publicness' in the Right to Be Forgotten Rulings >>> >> 2. Other topics >>> >>17:30 - 18:30 General: Emerging issues >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>Any thoughts? >>> >> >>> >>Paul. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>On 18 Apr 2016, at 17:50, Kelvin Wong wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> Hi Paul, >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks for starting this conversation. APILP chair is currently Peng >>> >>>Hwa, >>> >>> and we¹d be happy to continue to support. >>> >>> >>> >>> Peng Hwa and I discussed about the program following the MSG meeting >>> >>>last >>> >>> week and we¹ve come up with the attached program - glad that we¹ve >>> >>>reached a >>> >>> similar conclusion that we can beef up the civil society part! The ones >>> >>>in >>> >>> red are proposed and new, and I hope answers the question on the ³civil >>> >>> society² deficiency well. For this, we took the liberty of looking at >>> >>>some >>> >>> of the workshops that are higher ranking but fell out of the top 30, >>> >>>and >>> >>> aligns well with what we think is useful as a segment in APILP. The >>> >>>program >>> >>> is open to discussion of course, and we can float this to >>> >>> planning(a)apilp.asia (and thereafter to MSG?). >>> >>> >>> >>> Looking at the program, since this has been decided to be a full day >>> >>>program >>> >>> on Day 0, I¹m wondering if coffee (and/or lunch) will also be provided >>> >>>for >>> >>> the participants/lecturers, as per the main conference days? >>> >>> >>> >>> Happy to hear views. Thanks. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Kelvin >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4/18/16, 3:04 PM, "Paul Wilson" <pwilson(a)apnic.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hi all, >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Now that we have the decision to hold APILP on Day 0, we need to >>> >>>>finalise that >>> >>>> schedule and announce it so that we can improve participation. We >>> >>>>also need >>> >>>> to finalise the programme. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I¹d like to suggest an APILP organisers¹ mailing list so that we have >>> >>>>easier >>> >>>> and more regular contact; it should also allow others to join. >>> >>>>Yannis, can >>> >>>> Dotasia set that up? something like planning(a)apilp.asia >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On the quesiton of programme, I feel we have a deficiency with a lack >>> >>>>of >>> >>>> ³civil society² representation and content; so I want to propose to >>> >>>>involve >>> >>>> additional organisers who can contribute a unit about social issues >>> >>>>such as >>> >>>> freedom of expression, access, gender etc. I think this is really >>> >>>>very >>> >>>> necessary, and I hope we can agree to accomodate that on Day 0 as >>> >>>>well. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> For clarity, can we confirm someone to formally chair this group? >>> >>>>Peng Hwa, >>> >>>> is that you? 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For info on APSIG - 150 applicants
by Kelvin Wong 01 Jul '16

01 Jul '16

Dear all, As discussed with Peng Hwa, I’d like to share the discussions on the participation for APSIG (see discussion thread below), as some on this APILP planning list might not be in the APSIG discuss list. APSIG has shared earlier this week that there were 150 applicants for the upcoming APSIG in Bangkok and is expecting that this could go up to 200 by the deadline of July 15. The group is in the process of determining what is the maximum number of participants, good criteria, etc, considering both the high interest in the APSIG, and the capacity to manage. Sharing for information. Thanks! Regards, Kelvin ==========Original message below ===== more than 150 applicants for bangkok apsig (in addition to around 15 speaker registrations). how do we select participants fro bangkok apsig next month? i was told by the apsig management that 30~40 participants including speakers are the maximum. we originally designed apsig to serve internet governance leaders (organizers, speakers) whereas national/local SIGs to serve beginners. there are many questions and hope apsig community to come up with good consensus. 1. maximum number of participants at each apsig 2. how to select the participants? 3. are we maximizing the number of countries? 4. do we accept all applicants who will pay their expenses? 5. what about multistakeholders? 6. what about local participants? 7. any other good criteria for selection? good news are a. we expect two (annual) local SIGs later this year; india and pakistan. b. we expect china to hold a SIG in 2017 in addition to inida and pakistan. we hope we can give chances to all who applied and are ready to participate SIGs in 2016-2017. any comment on the issues i raised above? chon interim speaker group chair, finishing the speaker list by 2016-07-15. ================ From: Shreedeep Rayamajhi <weaker41(a)gmail.com> Date: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 10:34 PM To: zakir rehman <zakirbinrehman(a)yahoo.com> Cc: APSIG Discuss <apsig-discuss(a)googlegroups.com>, kilnam chon <chonkn(a)gmail.com>, Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong(a)icann.org> Subject: Re: 150 applicants +1 On 28 Jun 2016 2:51 pm, "'zakir rehman' via APSIG-discuss" <apsig-discuss(a)googlegroups.com> wrote: +1 Kelvin. Agree, specially on the point that the inaugural version of the school should have higher number of participation and the after a post mortem assessment, the number can be decreased in the future versions, should the assessment recommends so. thanks. z Sent from my iPhone On 28 Jun 2016, at 06:46, Kelvin Wong <kelvin.wong(a)icann.org> wrote: Hi Prof Chon, all, On the fellowship request and specifically on the criteria that Jungbae suggested, I think it is fair, and mostly quite in line with the criteria used for the Fellowship in APrIGF 2016 – see below. This set of APrIGF criteria can also be found here: https://2016.aprigf.asia/fellowship/, many might have seen this. Of course, the scale and objectives of APrIGF are different from APSIG. APrIGF 2016 fellowship criteria: Nationality & City of Residence – Are the applicant coming from developing or least developed countries? – Existing number of participation from each country in the past meetings or other fellows Engagement – Are the applicant a speaker or organiser of any selected workshop proposals? – Whether the applicant has engaged in any APrIGFs, global or local IGF initiatives before? – Is the applicant a potential panelist for any selected workshop? – Does applicant have a clear plan/vision for community engagement or other contribution to APrIGF, after the conference? Contribution to Diversity – Whether it helps promote gender balance? – Whether it helps to enhance the multistakeholderism concept? On the total number of participants, agree that we should balance participation (making sure there is diversity, and allowing more interested people to join, other than lecturers), with effectiveness/management (taking into account class size, and role play management etc). Given the high numbers of application, and since it is the first run, I am personally leaning more towards having greater participation. After the event, we could do a post mortem assessment and determine if we wish to cut the numbers in future runs (or increase!). Regards, Kelvin From: <apsig-discuss(a)googlegroups.com> on behalf of kilnam chon <chonkn(a)gmail.com> Date: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 8:03 AM To: APSIG Discuss <apsig-discuss(a)googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 150 applicants many good comments. do we have consensus on the following major issue; 1. applicants with self-funding and with fellowship request shall we evaluate participation first, regardless of funding status like MEAC-SIG? this would make the selection process simpler; first on participation, followed by fellowship selection. is there any other scheme like jungbae and others are suggesting? one question i have is "why do we turn down applications with self-funding?" as long as we have space. IGF and its regional and local versions do not turn down applications. 2. number of total participants bangkok apsig may be setting the number to 35, and meac-sig is setting to around 45. what would be the limit we would like to set in general? if we set to 35, it would take around 10 years to serve all applicants (~200)! on the other hand, we have to consider the management capability and effectiveness of education. there are many more issues, but let's start with the above two fundamental issues. chon On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 7:22 AM, Jungbae An <anjungbae1(a)gmail.com> wrote: all, thank you all for your very helpful discussion on participant selection. hoping we reach good (rough) consensus, would like to add my input/comment below: 1. upper limit of total participants above all things, for interactive discussion among advanced participants/leaders, my suggestion is 35 max. including ~15 speakers. 2. suggested criteria: in the order of priority of selection 1) organizer of SIG, IGF, or similar initiative : i suggest this be primary criterion as per APSIG objective. 2) local participation: suggest ~10% of total number of participants. 3) partners: one by each sponsor if they are interested in 4) geography: one by each country 5) stakeholder: minority stakeholder gets advantage 6) gender: female gets advantage 7) without fellowship: up to 50% among non-speaker seats best, jungbae On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 3:50 PM, Satish Babu <sbabu(a)ieee.org> wrote: Hi Prof. Chon I agree that the number may rise even further by the time the deadline expires. To your questions, my answers would be (a) Yes, we have to choose from the list to whatever number of seats we have; and (b) we need to have some criteria on the basis of which we can select candidates. While any process that we choose may have an element of arbitrariness, I feel we still need some guidelines. Here are some suggestions: 1. Consider priority categories such as areas of expertise, geographical sub-regions and gender 2. Have a recommended per-country norm (such as one participant per country) for non-speaker candidates >From a process perspective, I'd suggest a two-tier approach: a. Do an initial screening to identify good candidates (even if they exceed the number of possible participants for Bangkok) b. From these, apply the short-list guidelines to identify the 30 for the First APSIG. c. Keep the remaining candidates for consideration for the next APSIG, together with new candidates at the time. Perhaps this pool of candidates may be retained over a period of time, based on which we may plan multiple APSIG batches per year. satish On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 9:54 AM, kilnam chon <chonkn(a)gmail.com> wrote: gihan and all, we may end up having over 200 applicants by the deadline, july 15. this means that only one out of ten applicants would be accepted. my questions are - "is it ok to accept only one out of ten?" and - "how do we select one out of ten?" as i raised the issues in the previous message. the funding is not so much of the issues this time, or you may ask the apsig management. chon On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Gihan Dias <gihan(a)cse.mrt.ac.lk> wrote: On 27/06/2016 05:09, kilnam chon wrote: how do we select participants fro bangkok apsig next month? i was told by the apsig management that 30~40 participants including speakers are the maximum. there are many questions and hope apsig community to come up with good consensus. 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